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Post by Benn on Mar 9, 2017 9:52:12 GMT
Can we ask him what we do with the tin plate?
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Post by primenova on Mar 9, 2017 12:58:13 GMT
I think Steve'll tell us to hang it, seeing we have those 4 holes. Unless you put it in a frame?
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Post by Benn on Mar 9, 2017 15:13:00 GMT
It has HOLES?
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Oh yeah, so it does.
They are still really awkwardly placed holes, mind. You'd think one at the top would do.
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Post by blueshift on Mar 9, 2017 15:15:28 GMT
Use the holes to tie string to it and strap it to your chest like armour
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Post by Benn on Mar 9, 2017 15:21:47 GMT
This must be done by all at TFNation.
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Post by Benn on Mar 10, 2017 15:54:56 GMT
Looking at The War Within a little closer, I think this reprint is taken from the single issues. At the start Skywarp and Thundercracker are miscoloured when they take out the neutrals, and the wiki says this was fixed in the trade. It's not fixed here.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 10, 2017 17:13:45 GMT
Anyone have the trade on hand?
No sign of #6 locally so future issues I want I shall grab from Hachette's website. No hardship.
-Ralph
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Post by Benn on Mar 11, 2017 9:21:40 GMT
Having looked at the DW pocket book I have, the colours are corrected in that. Are they in the IDW print?
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Post by Kingoji on Mar 11, 2017 10:55:25 GMT
Fixed in the first printing trade.
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Post by primenova on Mar 12, 2017 8:57:26 GMT
I looked in my whsmith yesterday (because closed sundays) & they only had the 1 copy of #6 in instead of the 10. They better still get it in because i'm ordering it from #11 (& have to pay £20 to set up them to order it for me too)
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Post by tomwe on Mar 15, 2017 19:33:54 GMT
The FB page has just announced issue 7 will be Wanted: Galvatron after all (conflicting reports from The Furman and Forbidden Planet/Previews)
Have to say I'm pretty happy to have the arrival of DH this soon!
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Post by kinggrimlock on Mar 15, 2017 20:21:38 GMT
The FB page has just announced issue 7 will be Wanted: Galvatron after all (conflicting reports from The Furman and Forbidden Planet/Previews) Have to say I'm pretty happy to have the arrival of DH this soon! Yep. And it's Volume #8 in the series with Soundwave on the cover.
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Post by primenova on Mar 16, 2017 7:27:57 GMT
I don't know if I've posted this before, if so just ignore the post. #20 out on 20th september.
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Post by tomwe on Mar 16, 2017 9:49:56 GMT
I don't know if I've posted this before, if so just ignore the post. #20 out on 20th september. as in Issue #20 (which it is I believe) or is it volume #20 too? That would be too much of a coincidence surely!
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Post by primenova on Mar 16, 2017 12:31:40 GMT
#20 - we still have no clue on the volume number, but it would have been good if it was v1. But sure we have been told that it in another month. (that being #14 28/6/17) But we have been told that the order can change - like #7 has been changed twice
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Post by inflatabledalek on Mar 16, 2017 18:26:03 GMT
I don't think 7 was actually ever really going to be Earthforce though considering JPB has said the deadline he was given for colouring the strips was two months after that volume was coming out. Seems to be a mistake on the part of whichever branch of Hachette puts the information for Previews together.
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Post by kinggrimlock on Mar 16, 2017 18:41:59 GMT
I noticed on Facebook earlier, someone commented on Simon's post re: volume #7 that it's been comfirmed that the Animated Movie adaptation will not be reprinted as part of the collection. Is this true? I've not seen this stated as fact anywhere. Simon's neither confirmed or denied this AFAIK.
TBH I always thought the adaptation was rubbish, even as a kid, with bits that didn't make sense or weren't explained properly. I had no idea Jazz and Cliffjumper had survived until I saw the movie for example, so it's no great loss. Just seems an incredibly weird decision to make to omit it from a "Definitive" collection.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 16, 2017 22:07:46 GMT
If the Future stories are included which spin-off from the Movie it would be odd not include the Marvel or IDW adapation of it, especially if the run is meant to be in story order.
-Ralph
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Post by primenova on Mar 17, 2017 7:21:56 GMT
They should do the IDW one because of the whole Grimlock in the wrong places issues on the Marvel one - but the Marvel one would include BB2006
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Mar 17, 2017 16:12:08 GMT
They should do the IDW one because of the whole Grimlock in the wrong places issues on the Marvel one - but the Marvel one would include BB2006 Not wrong places, different places. I think the Marvel one called the Creation Matrix the Creation Matrix, which would clinch it for me. I think I read the Marvel adaptation before I saw the film. Martin
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Post by inflatabledalek on Mar 20, 2017 12:29:09 GMT
I mean, I know "Definitive" is a title rather than something to be taken completely literally, but dropping the film adaptation is another raspberry blowing moment when it comes to the stated aim.
So, read through 5 and 6 weeks after everyone else:
War Within, stood up better and for longer than I expected. The flashforwards were where it used to go off the rails for me as they felt needlessly limiting to future stories. Dreamwave not having a future makes that moot now, and they're a harmless enough diversion. Though nothing in them really seems as dangerous for Megatron to know as Prime seems to think. Megatron's convinient amnesia is still a balls suckingly bad way to end the series though.
It's also of course hugely influential, not just for making Cybertronian redesigns a much bigger thing than they'd ever been in the cartoon/Marvel, but for bringing the State Games idea out of its origin in a relatively obscure (though great!) Annual story and ensuing it got taken up by pretty much every subsequent continuity to bother giving a backstory to the Decepticons.
Though in terms of how others have run with it, what really stands out is how straightforward Furman's reasons for the start of the war are. Megatron literally wants to turn Cybertron into a War World. And that is it. Even Eric Holmes (in a story originally intended for Dreamwave!) found meatier material to play with than that.
That's not a complaint as such, as with one of the few redeeming features of ReGeneration One it's occasionally nice to have a straightforward "I'm Mad Me" Megatron, but the core idea Furman reintroduces here has been built up on a lot more by other authors since.
Escalation is for me still the best of Furman's IDW run. Every problem I could have with it are the results of subsequent stories dropping the ball badly rather than anything directly wrong with it. It rattles along, has lots of nice character moments (Furman's character work for IDW only tends to get talked about when he had a different take on them, the fact that for a lot of guys he sensibly just took his Marvel take on them and streamlined it a bit tends to get overlooked despite being very successful) and a genuine growing sense of tension and drama.
All of which would be quickly pissed down the drain (the fairly redundant to a series with a lot of plots in the air silly looking Reapers showing up being a bad omen of things to come), but as a story itself it's impossible to have any complaints. Great stuff.
Spotlight Sixshot is still pretty awful and confused (a guy who we're told can destroy entire planets by himself is impressed by a group of six that can do the same?), though the Terrorcons as fanboys with a try-to-hard-name is fantastic and it's such a shame subsequent authors ignored this.
Spotlight Magnus is workmanlike, but generally good fun and actually unintentionally sets up Magnus falling into step with Megatron so quickly on MTMTE as he was already a neutral soldier who liaised with Decepticon authorities anyway.
And I love Mo Zarak. You go Mo!
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Post by Kingoji on Mar 20, 2017 14:54:03 GMT
The thing about SL Mangus that no-one else ever seems to look back on and twig to in regards to his MTMTE portrayal is how whenever he has to go face someone he talks about getting 'into character'. Because, remember people, Ultra Magnus is now LITERALLY A CHARACTER that has in-universe been 'played' by many.
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Post by primenova on Mar 22, 2017 7:53:01 GMT
#7,1 are out today - for us on subs we should get 1/4/17 with #8
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Post by tomwe on Mar 22, 2017 9:14:53 GMT
#7,1 are out today - for us on subs we should get 1/4/17 with #8 I'm expecting a delivery this weekend. At least, it has been four weeks since the last one, which had been five weeks since my first. I had hoped to stagger it with my JDMC delivery but that is definitely coming this weekend as the Hachette site helpfully shows two issues allocated. Such a shame they can't get it together for the TF one to do the same. Apparently the issue has been flagged and passed to IT but I don't hold out hope.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Mar 22, 2017 17:35:18 GMT
Picked up issue #7 in WHSmith. I thought I had the misprinted issue #1, but apparently the one with Grimlock's face is the correct one. Spare to charity shop tomorrow.
Edit: Oh, I spoke too soon. The picture's the same on my two issue #1s / volume 6s, but the black box at the top is now the same size as the ones on volumes 8, 16 and 18. I hadn't even noticed it was too big the first time. What a small reason for such a massive reprint!
Martin
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 22, 2017 20:50:35 GMT
Goes to show that Hachette understand the importance of things like that to their target market though.
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Post by primenova on Mar 23, 2017 15:46:29 GMT
#116 colouring is washed out on a few panels. But we do have all the covers this time. The Grimlock spine art is the same height & that black border doesn't effect it at all.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 24, 2017 21:53:44 GMT
After not seeing #5 or #6 in a shop I was surprised to see one copy of #7 in a newsagent so red hazed and bought it. Hmmm. The repro could be better: Rebellion do a much better job on their material and they often just have comic scans to work with too. However, still fun to buy WANTED: GALVATRON DEAD OR ALIVE from the newsstands again after, er, 30 years!!!
It came with a free copy of Target: 2006. I now have four of them. Three must go to Oxfam!
-Ralph
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Post by KnightBeat on Mar 24, 2017 22:18:53 GMT
Do they sell it in Forbidden Planet, Ralph?
No sign of #7 in the London stores that I've visited. Perhaps it's for the best if the quality's so poor. I've still got the Titan reprint from 10+ years ago.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 24, 2017 22:35:25 GMT
Never seen it in FP.
To see the strips in the best quality I would say the superior way is still the original issues.
Still great to see these stories back in print in newsagents though. That's where reprints of old weekly/fortnightly kids comics really belong.
-Ralph
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