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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 9, 2019 4:51:54 GMT
I guess I should have called him Stealth Strike Prowl. I mean it's not like someone here would have known the difference! The difference between a classical and quintessential Transformer's character who's contribution to the franchise is only surpassed by The Big Four, and a Micheal Bay wank character abomination that's an obvious and tedious repaint that has a slightly different head?!?!
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Post by Llama God on Oct 9, 2019 6:45:25 GMT
I haven't done any de-battle damaging yet, but bloody hell that mess is coming off Apeface's jet nose. The way that just stops with a straight line is ridiculous and it spoils the figure. What do you mean? Apeface is well known for repeatedly flying into bowls of custard!
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Post by Benn on Oct 9, 2019 7:20:03 GMT
Fly into, maybe, but just dipping the tip in?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 9, 2019 15:27:18 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 9, 2019 16:00:11 GMT
Right... so... I still can't tell if that's actually a different colour to the Hasbrainian one, or if it's just that the lighting is stronger.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 9, 2019 16:06:46 GMT
From what I can see from the unboxing event the Hasbro one is lighter than expected/the previous images
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 9, 2019 16:12:35 GMT
I suppose if anything, Astrotrain is going to be the figure that tests the universal colour rule, but it would set a precedent that it doesn't seem Hasbro want.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 9, 2019 16:19:40 GMT
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Post by Toph on Oct 9, 2019 18:22:49 GMT
I think the black backgrounds make it look darker than it really is. Because side by side they pretty much look the same.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 9, 2019 19:24:21 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Oct 10, 2019 6:27:30 GMT
Fly into, maybe, but just dipping the tip in? Well sometimes people can be quite content just to dip the tip in.
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Post by Benn on Oct 10, 2019 7:00:48 GMT
Sometimes it's the only way to do it.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 10, 2019 15:11:12 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 10, 2019 18:24:00 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 10, 2019 21:18:12 GMT
Ssssssiiiiieeeeeggggeeeee
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 13, 2019 10:19:30 GMT
Siege Repaint Table Toy | Status | Reuse | WFC-S1 Fireblast | New | WFC-S27 Decepticon Phantomstrike: Battlemaster Shrute & WFC-S45 Singe, with new Blast Effects | WFC-S2 Lionaiser | New | WFC-S15 Battlemaster Dazlestrike, with new Fireblast | WFC-S3 Blowpipe | New | Repainted, with new Fireblast, as WFC-S30 Caliburst & WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce: Battlemaster Trenchfoot. Remoulded with new Fireblasts as WFC-S17 Aimless, who is then repainted as WFC-S27 Decepticon Phantomstrike: Battlemaster Fracas | WFC-S4 Race Car Patrol: Roadhandler | New | WFC-S32 Sports Car Patrol: Hyperdrive | WFC-S4 Race Car Patrol: Swindler | New | WFC-S32 Sports Car Patrol: Blackout | WFC-S5 Airstrike Patrol: Storm Cloud | New | WFC-S59 Overair & WFC-S61 Nightflight | WFC-S5 Airstrike Patrol: Visper | New | WFC-S59 Ground Shaker & WFC-S61 Slyhopper | WFC-S6 Battle Patrol: Bigshot | New | WFC-S62 Fireline Remoulded into WFC-S19 Rescue Patrol: Redhot & WFC-S58 Wheel Blaze. Parts reused on Earthrise WFC-E4 Micormaster Military Patrol Bombshock & Decepticon Growl | WFC-S6 Battle Patrol: Flak | New | WFC-S62 Cratermaker. Parts reused on Earthrise WFC-E4 Micormaster Military Patrol Bombshock & Decepticon Growl | WFC-S7 Sideswipe | New | WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce: G2 Sideswipe & WFC-S35 Red Alert | WFC-S8 Cog - Gasket and Grommit | New | WFC-S56 Powerdasher Aragon | WFC-S9 Hound | New | WFC-GS09 Cybertron Defence Hot Shot | WFC-S10 Skytread/Flywheels | New | WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce: Slamdance | WFC-S11 Optimus Prime | New | WFC-S65 35th Voyager Optimus Prime Special Edition | WFC-S12 Megatron | New | WFC-GS01 Combat Megatron & WFC-S66 35th Voyager Megatron Special Edition | WFC-S13 Ultra Magnus | New | WFC-S40 Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime | WFC-S14 Shockwave | New | WFC-GS03 Galactic Man Sounwave | WFC-S15 Greenlight | Remould of POTP Moonracer | WFC-GS05 Lancer | WFC-S15 Battlemaster Dazlestrike | Repaint of WFC-S2 Lionaiser | | WFC-S16 Pteraxodon | New | WFC-S27 Decepticon Phantomstrike: Battlemaster Terror-Daxtyl | WFC-S17 Aimless | Remould of WFC-S3 Blowpipe with new blast effects | WFC-S27 Decepticon Phantomstrike: Battlemaster Fracas | WFC-S18 Spy Action Patrol: Ravage | New | | WFC-S18 Spy Action Patrol: Laserbeak | New | | WFC-S19 Rescue Patrol: Redhot | Remould of WFC-S6 Battle Patrol: Bigshot | WFC-S58 Wheel Blaze | WFC-S19 Rescue Patrol: Stakeout | New | WFC-S58 Road Police | WFC-S20 Chromia | New, but reuses parts from POTP Moonracer | WFC-GS07 Nightbird | WFC-S21 Ironhide | New | WFC-S34 Ratchet & WFC-S49 Crosshairs | WFC-S22 Sixgun | New, but reuses a missile from WFC-S7 Sideswipe | WFC-GS04 Powerdasher Cromar | WFC-S23 Prowl | New | WFC-GS06 Smokescreen, WFC-S41 Barricade & WFC-S64 35th Bluestreak | WFC-S24 Starscream | New | WFC-S27 Decepticon Phantomstrike: Voyager Skywarp, WFC-S52 Acid Storm , WFC-S53 Ion Storm , WFC-S54 Nova Storm, WFC-S39 Thundercracker & WFC GS-02 Redwing | WFC-S25 Soundwave | New | WFC-S63 35th Voyager Soundblaster | WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce: Slamdance | New | WFC-S10 Skytread/Flywheels | WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce:G2 Sideswipe | New | WFC-S7 Sideswipe | WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce: Battlemaster Trenchfoot | Repaint of WFC-S30 Caliburst, itself a repaint of WFC-S3 Blowpipe with new blast effect | | WFC-S27 Decepticon Phantomstrike: Voyager Skywarp | Repaint of WFC-S24 Starscream | | WFC-S27 Decepticon Phantomstrike: Battlemaster Terror-Daxtyl | Repaint of WFC-S16 Pteraxodon | | WFC-S27 Decepticon Phantomstrike: Battlemaster Shrute | Repaint of WFC-S1 Fireblast | | WFC-S27 Decepticon Phantomstrike: Battlemaster Fracas | Repaint of WFC-S17 Aimless, itself a remould of WFC-S3 Blowpipe with new blast effects | | WFC-S28 Jetfire | New | | WFC-S29 Omega Supreme | New | | WFC-S30 Caliburst | Repaint of WFC-S3 Blowpipe with new blast effect | WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce: Battlemaster Trenchfoot | WFC-S31 Smashdown | New | Rereleased in Earthrise | WFC-S32 Sports Car Patrol: Blackout | Remould of WFC-S4 Race Car Patrol: Swindler | | WFC-S32 Sports Car Patrol: Hyperdrive | Remould of WFC-S4 Race Car Patrol: Roadhandler | | WFC-S33 Off Road Patrol: Highjump | New | WSC-S60 Ricon | WFC-S33 Off Road Patrol: Powertrain | New | WSC-S60 Irontread | WFC-S34 Ratchet | New | WFC-S21 Ironhide | WFC-S35 Red Alert | Repaint of WFC-S7 Sideswipe with a new gun and lightbar. | | WFC-S36 Refractor | New | Refraktor Reconnaissance Team | WFC-S37 Brunt | New | WFC GS-08 Powerdasher Zetar | WFC-S38 Springer | New | | WFC-S39 Thundercracker | Repaint of WFC-S24 Starscream with a new head | | WFC-S40 Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime | Remould of WFC-S13 Ultra Magnus | | WFC-S41 Barricade | Repaint of WFC-GS06 Smokescreen itself a repaint of WFC-S23 Prowl with new cannons & new head | | WFC-S42 Impactor | New | WFC-S57 Decepticon Impactor | WFC-S43 Mirage | New | WFC-S55 Holo Mirage | WFC-S44 Rung | New | | WFC-S45 Singe | Repaint of WFC-S1 Firedrive with new blast effects | | WFC-S46 Rumble | New | | WFC-S46 Ratbat | New | | WFC-S47 Direct Hit | New | | WFC-S47 Power Punch | New | | WFC-S48 Spinister | New | | WFC-S49 Crosshairs | Repaint of WFC-S21 Ironhide | | WFC-S50 Apeface | New | | WFC-S51 Astrotrain | New | Rereleased in Earthrise | WFC-S52 Acid Storm | Repaint of WFC-S24 Starscream | | WFC-S53 Ion Storm | Repaint of WFC-S24 Starscream | | WFC-S54 Nova Storm | Repaint of WFC-S24 Starscream | | WFC-S55 Holo Mirage | Repaint of WFC-S43 Mirage | | WFC-S56 Powerdasher Aragon | Repaint of WFC-S8 Cog with a new head | | WFC-S57 Decepticon Impactor | Repaint of WFC-S42 Impactor with a new head | | WFC-S58 Road Police | Repaint of WFC-S19 Rescue Patrol: Stakeout | | WFC-S58 Wheel Blaze | Repaint of WFC-S19 Rescue Patrol: Redhot, itself a Remould of WFC-S6 Battle Patrol: Bigshot | | WFC-S59 Ground Shaker | Repaint of WFC-S5 Airstrike Patrol: Visper | | WFC-S59 Overair | Repaint of WFC-S5 Airstrike Patrol: Storm Cloud | | WSC-S60 Ricon | Repaint of WFC-S33 Off Road Patrol: Highjump | | WSC-S60 Irontread | Repaint of WFC-S33 Off Road Patrol: Powertrain | | WFC-S61 Nightflight | Repaint of WFC-S5 Airstrike Patrol: Storm Cloud | | WFC-S61 Slyhopper | Repaint of WFC-S5 Airstrike Patrol: Visper | | WFC-S62 Cratermaker | Repaint of WFC-S6 Battle Patrol: Flak | | WFC-S62 Fireline | Repaint of WFC-S6 Battle Patrol: Bigshot | | WFC-S63 35th Voyager Soundblaster | Remould of WFC-S25 Soundwave | | WFC-S64 35th Bluestreak | Repaint of WFC-S23 Prowl with new cannons from WFC-GS06 Smokescreen | | WFC-S65 35th Voyager Optimus Prime Special Edition | Repaint of WFC-S11 Optimus Prime | | WFC-S66 35th Voyager Megatron Special Edition | Repaint of WFC-S12 Megatron | | WFC-GS01 Combat Megatron | Repaint of WFC-S12 Megatron | | WFC-GS02 Redwing | Repaint of WFC-S39 Thundercraker, itself a repaint of WFC-S24 Starscream with a new head | | WFC-GS03 Galactic Man Sounwave | Repaint of WFC-S14 Shockwave | | WFC-GS04 Powerdasher Cromar | Repaint of WFC-S22 Sixgun with a new head | | WFC-GS05 Lancer | Repaint of WFC-S15 Greenlight with a new head and POTP Novastar's gun | | WFC-GS06 Smokescreen | Repaint of WFC-S23 Prowl with a new head & shoulder cannons, minus the lightbar. | | WFC-GS07 Nightbird | Repaint of WFC-S20 Chromia | | WFC GS-08 Powerdasher Zetar | Repaint of WFC-S37 Brunt with a new head | | WFC-GS09 Cybertron Defence Hot Shot | Repaint of WFC-S9 Hound with a new head | | Refraktor Reconnaissance Team | Repaint of WFC-S36 Refractor | |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 13, 2019 12:45:34 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 13, 2019 12:47:35 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 13, 2019 13:05:03 GMT
I'd been thinking Singe used Aimless' mold for months, thanks to the fireblasts! Finding out he's Firedrive is a big shock! Not least because I rebought the w1-3 Decepticon Battlemasters to limb swap with him.
Not sure it's worth limb swapping Singe with Firedrive though
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 15, 2019 21:14:37 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 15, 2019 21:18:23 GMT
WHOOOAAAA!!!! TOY ACCURATE MIRAGE HEAD?!?!?!
WANT WANT WANT WANT!!!!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 15, 2019 21:26:00 GMT
Then buy the three pack, because that's where you'll find it in clear blue
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 15, 2019 22:00:32 GMT
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Post by Toph on Oct 15, 2019 22:21:06 GMT
They didn't have to waste Rung on a battlemaster.
He's a perfect retool candidate from Chromia, as a Gen Select release. Which is exactly the kind of thing Select should be for.
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 15, 2019 22:24:52 GMT
For some reason I can see him getting a Cyberverse release.
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 16, 2019 4:56:48 GMT
Then buy the three pack, because that's where you'll find it in clear blue I don't want it in clear blue! I want it coloured!
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Post by Toph on Oct 16, 2019 5:29:25 GMT
As do I. But as ofnow our only two options for toy head is stupid clear blue, or none.
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Post by Llama God on Oct 16, 2019 6:32:10 GMT
They didn't have to waste Rung on a battlemaster. He's a perfect retool candidate from Chromia, as a Gen Select release. Which is exactly the kind of thing Select should be for. Maybe they're just throwing us this tiny bone as a way of testing the waters, to see if there is indeed still interest for IDW 1.0 out there. I mean, not that it should be needed - a quick glance of t'Interwebs should show that there clearly is. But who knows how the Warden thinks..? ("Surely the Sunbow-only programming must have re-asserted itself by now... it's been nearly a year... What's wrong with these people?!")
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Post by Toph on Oct 16, 2019 10:08:33 GMT
In hindsight, I think Siege is objectively the worst TF line we've had in ages. I don't mean that the individual toys are bad, but the overall line, it's theme, aesthetic, and execution are fundamental failures.
Starscream and Chromia, the worst molds of the lot, are the only one that actually accomplishes what they promised us it would be. Pretty much everything else is a straight up earth mode, or one so slightly different from an earth mode that it fits in nowhere. The rest is rounded out with "this block is a spaceship because we say so."
On top of that, they cram out as many repaints as they possibly can in one year, then completely switch aesthetics and themes in a way that renders virtually the entire line redundant. (The lambo/dodson/van/jeep straight up won't fit in, and it's not even worth beating the dead horse of Optimus and Starscream)
Megatron doesn't do anything that TR Megatron didn't. In fact, it brings less to the table. And I'm now positive that it'll be rendered even more redundant by an inevitable Earthrise Megatron that's even more cartoon accurate while transforming into a grey tank. At least that's the takeaway that Optimus gives us.
The Micromasters feel exceptionally halfassed, with a ton of repaints that make no sense, at the cost of pretty obvious ones. Especially halfassed when you look at the minicons and micromasters of yesteryear.
So, like I said. While on a microscopic level, I most of the toys are pretty good, and I enjoy them plenty, however when I step back and look at the line as a whole, it looks like an absolute trainwreck, and for the first time makes me feel like I really waisted my money.
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Post by blueshift on Oct 16, 2019 10:49:43 GMT
It is baffling that they sort of half-squeezed Earthmodes into Siege which is explicitly about early Cybertron stuff, and THEN the next year's line is Earth modes. And they said it had been planned out as well!
I don't mind variety, but Hasbro are the ones that get to choose what their line is about!
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