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Post by legios on Jul 13, 2024 11:48:55 GMT
Both of the Thrusts are...fine.. except I am not fond of the underlying toy they are redeocs of, which kind of eliminates them to begin with.
Really it is down to the neon-green Grafitti-paint copter, or the...Martian Polar-cap camouflage(?)...version of Demolishor... Both of them have their amusing elements, but I am having trouble deciding between them.
Karl
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 13, 2024 14:38:07 GMT
Toy-Fu had one last year. It didn't sell so I bought it. -Ralph Yeah. I knew about that one because it came up on the call. I just wasn't there to buy it. |
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Post by Jim on Jul 13, 2024 15:05:27 GMT
I'm going with Nemesis Prime. Even if Nemeses Prime have become a very boring and predictable thing since then, this one stands out by being the excellent Armada design and through the use of the tan plastic. I think he may be the only NP I own.
He's also the only one I own of this whole selection, most of which I find a bit uninspiring. Demolishor looks ok.
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Post by Benn on Jul 13, 2024 16:33:40 GMT
Both of the Thrusts are...fine.. except I am not fond of the underlying toy they are redeocs of, which kind of eliminates them to begin with. Really it is down to the neon-green Grafitti-paint copter, or the...Martian Polar-cap camouflage(?)...version of Demolishor... Both of them have their amusing elements, but I am having trouble deciding between them. Karl You should vote for the helicopter, cuz it looks like no one else will... |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 13, 2024 16:38:45 GMT
I'm very fond of Springer Cyclonus... I think Nemesis Prime is better
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 18, 2024 7:07:35 GMT
Finishes tomorrow.
Much smaller field this coming week as we go to a larger size but that's partially due to making a distinction that wasn't there for the Supercon reuses that stretches the Maxcons over two weeks.... but it's NOT by faction
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 18, 2024 7:16:03 GMT
The Demolishor just doesn't work for me and not just because it's not the colours it could have been. He's bottom of the pile
Like Karl I don't like the Thrust mold. The Dirge colours are a bit meh on it, especially the overabundance of brown. The Red Thrust is much much better so of course was much much harder to get. But having done three it's a shame they didn't complete the set with the Ramjet colours
The Hot Shot colours are top notch, shame about the mould
Cyclonus is fab, top o the list for the same character repaints
But Nemesis Prime is out on top, nice colours, fab joke with the Minicon name.
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Post by legios on Jul 18, 2024 17:04:01 GMT
Ironically the red is actually my least favourite scheme on Thrust. I think it is too "heavy" and flattens the look of the mold and makes it lose a lot of what visual interest that it does have.
In the end I'm going with Cyclonus. No, not because he is a helicopter, although I do like helicopter's. Not because he is an early model Hind reference, although the uncompromising Vogonesque brickness has a certain aesthetic to it.
No, it is because it has gloriously bright, neon, play-school toy colours. It screams "I AM TOY! PLAY WITH TOY" and virtually demands one pick it up and make wokka-noises in the back of one's mouth whilst spinning the rotors.
It's toyetic, bright and appealling and overall just looks fun!
Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2024 6:27:40 GMT
He was my second choice!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2024 6:32:25 GMT
As predicted, a walk or rather Run Over for Nemesis Prime!  |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2024 6:32:45 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2024 6:34:34 GMT
Repaints: Powerlinx Red Alert is a repaint of Red Alert who is also used in an Energon exclusive as Prowl and as a Movie Inferno As is traditional Thundercracker is a repaint of Starscream. In Japan he's known as Starscream Super Mode. He's also repainted in his character's Energon toy colours in a VS Pack with the aforementioned Prowl He's remoulded as Skywarp, who we'll see next week, who's then repainted as Universe Ramjet |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2024 6:34:56 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 19, 2024 7:46:06 GMT
Treadbolt is sod all like G2 Bonecrusher!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Llama God on Jul 19, 2024 7:54:33 GMT
Has to be the one that looks like Thundercracker for me. Just because of the colour scheme.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2024 8:20:24 GMT
Armada Scavenger and G1 Bonecrusher are both green Bulldozers
Energon Treadbolt and G2 Bonecrusher are both yellow Bulldozers
How is the modern toy not "Nothing Like" the earlier one??
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2024 8:26:03 GMT
I can't find s PRIOR use of the orange emergency colours for Red Alert but just as the original Armada Rede Alert pairs nicely with the Emergency Team the Powerlinx version pairs well with the X-Dimension Emergency team and probably informed the colour choice there |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 19, 2024 10:29:11 GMT
Armada Scavenger and G1 Bonecrusher are both green Bulldozers Energon Treadbolt and G2 Bonecrusher are both yellow Bulldozers How is the modern toy not "Nothing Like" the earlier one?? Only the colour yellow carries over from Treadshot to Bonecrusher. The colour placements don't match. The robot modes don't match. Bonecrusher alt mode is all yellow. Treadbolt alt mode just has a wee bit of yellow. You're reaching here. -Ralph |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 19, 2024 12:28:11 GMT
Reach... for the stars!
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Post by Benn on Jul 19, 2024 13:07:03 GMT
Are you played by Tom Cruise cuz you look like Jack Reacher?
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 22, 2024 22:00:32 GMT
But never leave your friends. |
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Post by that_bluestreak on Jul 23, 2024 19:04:29 GMT
i found this one quite difficult. do i vote for longarm, because i have one sitting here waiting to be identified (thanks phil), or do i vote for zapmaster, for the name?
longarm i guess.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 25, 2024 8:08:40 GMT
Finishes TOMORROW - vote now!
This coming week's poll stays with the Maxcons but uses a descriptor that's only been in TWO poll questions previously!
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Post by legios on Jul 25, 2024 17:02:15 GMT
Ok, so Red Alert is very much the better toy here. Much as I like the Starscream mold I think that Red has a lot more going on in the way of play value, and as a toy for an eight-year old I think it is superior. But the question isn't which is the better toy. It is which is the better repaint. And that Orange and White combination is...not good... in my opinion. I don't think that those colours work together well at all. It just looks jarring to me.
The dark blue, with the red trim and the orange canopy works much better I think. As well as looking very "cell-animation" in terms of colour pallete. It is striking, but feels like it "flows" as a deco in a way that Red's orange-and-white doesn't.
Thundercracker/Supermode Starscream takes it.
Karl
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 26, 2024 5:55:24 GMT
Not a fan of the red alert mould, not sure why exactly, something just doesn't work. But I actually like the colours and longarm is clearly the better minicon.
But the starscream mould is about as good as Armada got in this size class and thunder cracker colours are always nice.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 26, 2024 6:10:22 GMT
I can see the "But not as nice as...." paragraph which follows on!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 26, 2024 6:14:27 GMT
Thundercracker wins  |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 26, 2024 6:15:20 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 26, 2024 6:17:03 GMT
Skywarp is a remould of Armada Starscream, who was repainted as Thundercracker (Starscream Super Mode in Japan) and in Starscream's Energon toy colours in a VS Pack with a Prowl made from Red Alert. Skywarp himself is repainted as Universe Ramjet Skywarp dumps Starscream's Minicon and gains an entirely new one called Thunderclash tfwiki.net/wiki/Thunderclash_(Armada)#ArmadaHe has a minor repaint as Universe Thuderclash tfwiki.net/wiki/Thunderclash_(Armada)#Universe_.282003.29That's more different than the Unreleased Universe Thuderclash is! tfwiki.net/wiki/Thunderclash_(Armada)#NotesHe appears three times in Micron Booster Vol 2: Saber tfwiki.net/wiki/BarnstormProcessor tfwiki.net/wiki/FlashdriveTriac tfwiki.net/wiki/BingoPredacon is a relatively minor remould of Transmetal Megatron adding some Minicon posts. The original Megatron mould also gets a limited edition silver repaint in Japan Predacon's Minicons Skid-Z & Sideburn are repaints of the Street Speed Team's Spiral & Backtrack. The third Minicon in that team Backtrack is repainted as Airazor's Nightscream Armada Beasts | | | | | | | Street Speed Team (MM-06 Street Speed Micron) | | | | | | |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 26, 2024 6:29:04 GMT
The appearance of the Skid-Z minicon nam here is interesting. Skid-Z was previously used as the name of a RID Flipchanger which was 2 packed with Windshear and the Windshear name is also reused around now for Wheeljack's minicon.
Throw in the Sideburn Minicon and there's a lot of raiding of the RiD names here. Ironhide and Armourhide, both used elsewhere for the repaint Minicons packed with beasts, also had RiD uses while Airazor's Nightscream was used in Beast Machines
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