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Post by The Doctor on Nov 29, 2023 20:20:37 GMT
Pictures do not do justice to Dead Prowl's stricken facial expression. In person, he looks truly haunted.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 30, 2023 23:34:32 GMT
After all they gave you...
You wake each Saturday. Endure the idiotic madness of... whatever the TV show was that had Timmy Twathammer on it.
Endure it just to get five prescious minutes of Transformers cartoon action.
Then the comic. Such precious paper my fingers touch.
Their adventures and interactions. Enthralling us... changing our lives; changing what it was to be entertained.
This was new. This was different. Cars, jets, CASSETTE RECORDERS?!?! that became... Robots..? Nothing like this had existed before! And they were all such brilliant characters! They had personalities... such attention to detail... we knew them...
Nothing like it before- not Star Wars, not Star Trek, not The Blackhole, NOTHING! Nothing excited us as much as these, these, THESE- Transformers.
Thank you. Thank you for those beautiful days in 1984... and 1985.
Thank you for the memories and the way you changed science fiction for me.
Thank you.
Thank you, Transformers
And decades later we thank you again. By collecting, and seemingly revelling in, hideous representations of you DEAD. DEAD AND DYING. Seemingly in denial of the tricks of company executives spicing it up to sell more toys in a shallow attempt at a movie that was as unimaginative as it was poorly animated, sweeping aside as it did the characters that built the franchise, and that built dreams and creativity.
How quickly we forget.
But not all of us fell for it...
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 1, 2023 10:07:22 GMT
I am hoping we get SS86 Dead versions of Brawn, Wheeljack and Windcharger!
I went a shelf full of dead TF:TM characters
-Ralph
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Post by Benn on Dec 1, 2023 10:20:28 GMT
Cliffjumper didn't die.
Also, you can say a lot of things about the Movie, Shockprowl, but poorly animated is not one of them.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 1, 2023 15:05:19 GMT
I meant Windcharger.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 1, 2023 15:11:58 GMT
Wheeljack & Windcharger aren't dead. Everyone who dies in the film turns grey like stone
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 1, 2023 16:21:58 GMT
Um, Phil, there is a clear shot of their dead bodies.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 1, 2023 17:51:21 GMT
Wheeljack & Windcharger aren't dead. Everyone who dies in the film turns grey like stone Only Optimus and Starscream turn grey on screen. |
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Post by Benn on Dec 1, 2023 17:52:43 GMT
I think Prowl does, but it's hard to tell with him.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 1, 2023 17:56:48 GMT
Um, Phil, there is a clear shot of their dead bodies. Just like in the Sunbow pilot when they were all clearly dead on the floor of the Ark from the crash 4,000,000 years ago. Dead dead dead. Until they weren't any more. Martin |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 1, 2023 17:59:14 GMT
And of course Prime turning grey meant he was really and truly dead, and there couldn't ever be a Return of Optimus Prime. And Starscream would never ever return. Honest.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 1, 2023 18:00:15 GMT
Also, you can say a lot of things about the Movie, Shockprowl, but poorly animated is not one of them. This is true. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 1, 2023 18:00:56 GMT
Wheeljack & Windcharger aren't dead. Everyone who dies in the film turns grey like stone Only Optimus and Starscream turn grey on screen. And Megatron, Thundercracker & Skywarp and the Insecticons just before Unicron transforms them. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 1, 2023 18:02:14 GMT
Um, Phil, there is a clear shot of their dead bodies. -Ralph There's a shot of their coloured bodies, not sporting the same dead effect that Optimus, Starscream and the others get |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 1, 2023 20:18:58 GMT
They're dead! They're fucking dead! Look at them!
DEAD.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 1, 2023 20:30:05 GMT
Only Optimus and Starscream turn grey on screen. And Megatron, Thundercracker & Skywarp and the Insecticons just before Unicron transforms them. They aren't dead, none of the cons at that point are dead. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 1, 2023 20:30:34 GMT
They're dead! They're fucking dead! Look at them! DEAD. Yes, dead! Look at them! Obviously dead!  Martin |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 1, 2023 20:33:10 GMT
Dead!  Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 1, 2023 20:57:10 GMT
Just because they came back to life doesn't mean they weren't dead!
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 1, 2023 20:58:49 GMT
Okay.
Martin
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 1, 2023 21:52:00 GMT
Well this escalated!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 1, 2023 23:21:50 GMT
Just because they came back to life doesn't mean they weren't dead! -Ralph But neither is he what you would call alive either... etc. |
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Post by Benn on Dec 1, 2023 23:36:24 GMT
See, your friend here? He's only mostly dead.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 2, 2023 5:25:12 GMT
See, your friend here? He's only mostly dead. Yes, nobody did the bellows test on them or went through their pockets to look for loose change, so their deadness remains unproven. Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 2, 2023 9:37:23 GMT
The...bellows test??
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 2, 2023 9:43:31 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 2, 2023 10:05:14 GMT
Up the bum!!!!
-ralph
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Post by legios on Dec 2, 2023 17:08:52 GMT
The...bellows test?? -Ralph Well known to any local Miracle Man. A very important part of determining if they can help someone who turns up with a friend in some status of deadness. (Assuming said Miracle Man can be bothered, and isn't too angry at being fired by a local king...) Karl |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 2, 2023 18:03:55 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 2, 2023 18:39:27 GMT
This has got me thinking.
If you were an Autobot whose friend was mostly-dead, let's say Prowl, to keep this on topic, after a spaceship crash into a volcano, or a nasty encounter with an Insecticon splinter grenade or an Underbase-powered Starscream, or a lucky shot from Scavenger - who would be your go-to fixer-upper to fix him up?
1. Ratchet - the most competent Autobot medic. He's competent, professional and compassionate, but he's not a miracle-worker. If he doesn't have the right equipment or parts, your pal may sit in pieces in his medical bay for some considerable time. If he declares your pal all-dead, your pal may get shot into deep space.
2. Wreck-Gar - he's got a few screws loose, but can turn the remains of Bumblebee into Goldbug, and on Junk he and his pals can bring Ultra Magnus back from being quartered by the Sweeps in no time flat. But faced with a mostly-dead Optimus Prime in a cartoon called 'The Return of Optimus Prime', he shrugs and says, "He's dead, Jim."
3. The Quintesson - when Wreck-Gar fails, the Quintesson can bring Optimus Prime back from the dead even after he's turned grey. But he might brainwash your pal Prowl and turn him into an evil zombie if you don't watch what he's doing.
4. Grimlock - he'll pump your pal full of the latest experimental alien wonder-fuel and hope for the best.
Martin
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