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Post by Toph on Aug 6, 2018 9:12:58 GMT
Little canon 5-10 minute shorts is a good way to preserve the character focused scenes that make Trek so memorable, while weeding out the filler while your main show is more story driven.
Also, if Q doesn't turn up in "Picard," then what are they even doing?
Actually, it would be quite satisfactory to me if they were permanent companions.
"Janeway's no fun now that all she does is sit behind a desk. Sisko punched me. An Kirk... well... I don't want to talk about that."
"He punched you one time, Q. Let it go. Geezus, had I known that's all it took to get rid of you, I'd have done that at Farpoint."
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 6, 2018 9:31:50 GMT
Short Treks..?
I believe the furthest ahead we have seen in the regular time line on screen is the Voyager time ships stuff of the 29th century.
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Post by Toph on Aug 6, 2018 9:33:32 GMT
I forgot about those.
And Star Trek: Short Treks is a series of minisodes based on Discovery.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 6, 2018 10:47:36 GMT
Yes. It was recently announced as 4 episodes of 10-15 minutes duration telling short stories. A Mudd story, someone alone on a spaceship story written by Michael Chabon, a Tilly story and the 4th which has not had story details revealed yet. They will be released in the run-up to season 2 of Discovery. Essentially a 2nd 22nd century series but using a short story anthology format. I would not be surprised if more follow if they do well. -Ralph |
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Post by Toph on Aug 6, 2018 11:08:09 GMT
I'm sure there'll be more. It'd be something they could film cheaply and easily on the fly, while filming the main series. Same sets (mostly), same actors.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 6, 2018 11:20:21 GMT
So long as this means the sets for the Picard thingy are uses for THE RETURN OF THE REMANS.
-Ralph
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Post by drmick on Aug 6, 2018 16:56:52 GMT
I wonder how much it would take to get Tom Hardy to do a Stargazer series?
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 6, 2018 17:27:28 GMT
Discovery has managed to pull it off, but... please no more series retreading ground. Let's have some new adventures!
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 6, 2018 17:45:56 GMT
Discovery has managed to pull it off, but... please no more series retreading ground. Let's have some new adventures! If the plan is to do lots of miniseries or one shots, then Stargazer could be quite fun. |
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 6, 2018 18:05:43 GMT
Discovery has managed to pull it off, but... please no more series retreading ground. Let's have some new adventures! There haven't been any retreading series yet. All that has been announced is a show in a new time period which retains a character from a previous show. We had that before. It was called Deep Space Nine and retained a character from a previous show (O'Brien and later Worf) while being a very new and fresh take on ST. What has not been announced is TNG season 8 or 'Captain Picard on the Enterprise again'. -Ralph |
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Post by legios on Aug 6, 2018 18:58:27 GMT
As much as I really enjoy the books I would have no problem with the Picard show contradicting them. At the end of the day the TV shows are the 'primary' text for Star Trek and any differences in spin-off media can easily be dealt with in creative ways by good writers. I imagine the same will be true of Star Trek Online (which I have not played). It has always seemed clear to me that Star Trek: Online is a divergent future from that of the post-TNG/DS9 novels. It simply exists in its own particular bubble of story and isn't necessarily congruent with other secondary media. (Although it acknowledges their existence - there is a mission that sees your character investigate a rift in space/time during a conflict with the Sphere Builders which sees you travelling sideways to the Kelvin timeline that specifically calls out the fact that you are now in the past of a different timeline). But then, I've mostly treated the Star Trek novels as a separate version of Star Trek since the 80s - things like Dreadnought, Chain of Attack or Pandora Principle _could_ be slotted into the television series/movie timeline, but were never likely to be acknowledged by it. So it seemed to make more sense to me that they form an alternate version of their own with their own internal logic. And that was always fine by me. (But then, given my liking of Arthurian mythology - where you have lots of versions which simply can't all be simultaneously true but all have interesting elements to them...it is fair to say I am not the kind of person to be too concerned by whether or not a thing is "canon" in any event). Karl |
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 6, 2018 19:46:09 GMT
It just occured to me that the Kelvin time could incorporate a version of Federation. Make it so!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 6, 2018 22:12:27 GMT
Discovery has managed to pull it off, but... please no more series retreading ground. Let's have some new adventures! There haven't been any retreading series yet. All that has been announced is a show in a new time period which retains a character from a previous show. We had that before. It was called Deep Space Nine and retained a character from a previous show (O'Brien and later Worf) while being a very new and fresh take on ST. What has not been announced is TNG season 8 or 'Captain Picard on the Enterprise again'. -Ralph I'm not complaining about the new Picard series. Just the seemingly endless desire of fans for niche things about past aspects of characters we don't need to be told. Like a Stargazer series and Enterprise before it. |
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 6, 2018 22:17:51 GMT
Yes but we NEED the untold story of the Remans!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 7, 2018 12:20:03 GMT
But they will loose their awesome sense of oppression and mysterious mystery if it is told!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 7, 2018 19:58:09 GMT
I hope we can see Remans in white lab coats.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 7, 2018 20:47:16 GMT
The white lab coat ones are my favourites.
-Ralp
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Post by legios on Aug 8, 2018 20:19:55 GMT
*thinks* You know, with a bit of tinkering I can probably make something in the Tailor in Star Trek: Online look like a lab-coat, and my Romulan character has a Reman as a bridge officer... Hmmmm. White coat Reman wouldn't even be the silliest look I've come up with on there, let alone the silliest _anyone_ has...
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2018 17:00:35 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 25, 2018 16:49:34 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 25, 2018 16:50:37 GMT
Indeed. Let me find the prior posts on this matter
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Post by drmick on Jan 11, 2019 0:14:28 GMT
Anybody any thoughts on the recent "news" that the Picard series will deal with the aftermath of the destruction of Romulus From 2009?
I hated that whole Hobus supernova nonsense. Made no sense at all- classic JJ "I failed high school science" logic going on there.
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Post by Toph on Jan 11, 2019 1:34:54 GMT
Well, if the romulan sun went nova, it's undisputably the end of Romulus. No hokum there, at all.
Certain stars (like ours) just simply do not naturally go nova, though. That does not preclude some sort of device making it artificially explode, though. That's pretty easy to buy, and not difficult to do in all honesty.
We were never given a canon readon as to why the romulan sun suddenly went nova.
The JJ hokum comes in with the red matter, and time travelling black holes.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 11, 2019 16:16:12 GMT
Anybody any thoughts on the recent "news" that the Picard series will deal with the aftermath of the destruction of Romulus From 2009? Oh no, I don't like the sound that. |
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Post by drmick on Jan 11, 2019 16:39:55 GMT
Well, if the romulan sun went nova, it's undisputably the end of Romulus. No hokum there, at all. Certain stars (like ours) just simply do not naturally go nova, though. That does not preclude some sort of device making it artificially explode, though. That's pretty easy to buy, and not difficult to do in all honesty. We were never given a canon readon as to why the romulan sun suddenly went nova. The JJ hokum comes in with the red matter, and time travelling black holes. Never considered the artificially induced angle- it would probably need that to retcon sensibly. Could be a good mystery too. But in terms of Spock alone being the fixer. That's really putting your eggs in one basket. And an alien too, clearly no Romulexit issues at the time! |
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Post by Toph on Jan 11, 2019 18:14:12 GMT
Unless I'm mistaken, they never gave a canon reason why it went nova.
All it would take to kill a star, would be to dump carbon into it, it's really not much more complicated than that. Of course, sci-fi writers always need to go for the most technical things possible.
But the Romulan Star Empire has more than it's share of enemies who would do this.
You know, this would actually be a really good plot. It makes me really sad that Andreas Katsulas isn't around anymore, because I would kill to see Picard and Tomalak working together to figure out who did it.
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 11, 2019 18:15:47 GMT
Oh man if Nimoy was still alive you know we'd have gotten an amazing intro (prequel to 2009) with him and Stewart (because Picard working alongside Spock on Romulus would make sense) in which they make some kind of sense of the stuff shown in flashbacks during the movie.
If this was picking up shortly after those events I imagine we would have seen pulled from the Enterprise/retirement to lead Starfleets relief efforts or investigate events. But being set a decade on I'm really curious to what Picard is up to in this setting.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 11, 2019 18:15:50 GMT
I can't judge something that hasn't been made yet on the basis of an off the cuff (and out of context) remark made by a producer during press junkets to promote another show.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 11, 2019 18:36:53 GMT
Stars regularly absorb planets and all their vast reserves of carbon without shutting down or going nova. Novas are caused by runaway fusion events not fusion shutting down.
Either way I'm pretty sure the Romulans would notice something going on given the vast quantities of materials involved!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 11, 2019 18:44:45 GMT
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