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Post by Toph on Jan 11, 2019 19:11:28 GMT
Stopping fusion kills a star. That's indisputable.
When a star starts producing iron and carbon, it's dead. Whether it explodes or not, comes down to it's size. A small star like ours will just bloat up and shed it's matter.
But if you were to artificially introduce enough iron or carbon into a star's core, you would cease all fusion and artificially end.
It's beyond our abilities, but certainly not unbelievable that star trek tech could achieve this. A lot more believable than red matter, the time traveling black hole portal, or TFA's Starkiller Base.
We don't know how big the Romulan star is, but it's almost certainly not a hyper giant (the explodey type). But all things given, I'm far more willing to believe someone could make it explode by injecting carbon into it's core, than I am a ton of other things we've seen in star trek, such at a time traveling black hole portal.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 11, 2019 19:52:32 GMT
I'm not seeing its impossible to dump that much material into a star nor that it wouldn't alter fusion reactions in someway. I'm saying you would need a huge amount to significantly effect it and even if you did it wouldn't go nova as that's not how novas are generated.
Supernovas happen when fusion ceases in a star but only in massive stars which by the time of explosion would've expanded hugely resulting in the star exploding being the least of Romuluses problems. Romuluses star is clearly not at this stage as only a few years before as it gives Romulus balmy nice Earth like light, weather and vegetation.
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Post by Toph on Jan 11, 2019 19:56:14 GMT
I said that. Stopping fusion kills a star. That's indisputable. When a star starts producing iron and carbon, it's dead. Whether it explodes or not, comes down to it's size. A small star like ours will just bloat up and shed it's matter. But if you were to artificially introduce enough iron or carbon into a star's core, you would cease all fusion and artificially end. It's beyond our abilities, but certainly not unbelievable that star trek tech could achieve this. A lot more believable than red matter, the time traveling black hole portal, or TFA's Starkiller Base. We don't know how big the Romulan star is, but it's almost certainly not a hyper giant (the explodey type). But all things given, I'm far more willing to believe someone could make it explode by injecting carbon into it's core, than I am a ton of other things we've seen in star trek, such at a time traveling black hole portal. |
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Post by drmick on Jan 12, 2019 11:40:27 GMT
Stopping fusion kills a star. That's indisputable. When a star starts producing iron and carbon, it's dead. Whether it explodes or not, comes down to it's size. A small star like ours will just bloat up and shed it's matter. But if you were to artificially introduce enough iron or carbon into a star's core, you would cease all fusion and artificially end. It's beyond our abilities, but certainly not unbelievable that star trek tech could achieve this. A lot more believable than red matter, the time traveling black hole portal, or TFA's Starkiller Base. We don't know how big the Romulan star is, but it's almost certainly not a hyper giant (the explodey type). But all things given, I'm far more willing to believe someone could make it explode by injecting carbon into it's core, than I am a ton of other things we've seen in star trek, such at a time traveling black hole portal. Worth pointing out that it wasn't the Romulan star, but a neighbouring one- Hobus. You two have a better grasp of the science than me, but am I right in thinking that if a neighbouring system went nova- two things are still true? 1. The impact on the neighbouring system wouldn't be that bad? 2. It would take years, decades even, for it to reach the neighbouring system? |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 12, 2019 16:33:06 GMT
A supernova can have utterly devastating effects on solar systems in it's nearby vicinity. But yes, if the supernova is ten light-years away, then it would take at least ten years for... stuff to happen. As a space based society, presumably the Romulans would have known about the supernova in advance. Even if the other star was, say, only two light-years away.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 12, 2019 17:38:26 GMT
I will dance a jig if the Remans are in this Picard show.
-Ralph
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Post by drmick on Jan 12, 2019 17:49:04 GMT
Didn't Nemesis introduce the fact that all of Romulus was tidally locked, with half the planet in perpetual darkness?
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 12, 2019 19:11:17 GMT
Apparently it was Remus that was tidal locked according to wikipedia. If Im reading it right its also not 100% clear if Remus and Romulus are in the same solar system.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 12, 2019 19:24:40 GMT
Debate still rages about the Romulan Empire Star Map seen on the viewscreen in 'Balance of Terror'.
Enquiring minds still want to know what happened to 'Romii'!!!
-Ralph
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Post by drmick on Jan 12, 2019 21:35:32 GMT
Debate still rages about the Romulan Empire Star Map seen on the viewscreen in 'Balance of Terror'. Enquiring minds still want to know what happened to 'Romii'!!! -Ralph Or was it Rom II? |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 13, 2019 18:13:11 GMT
So long as we see a Reman in a white coat again I will be happy.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 13, 2019 20:49:04 GMT
I want a whole episode about them.
Thing is, if the show deals with the Romulans after Romulus goes kablooey it really needs to deal with the Remans too!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 13, 2019 20:58:13 GMT
Exactly.
I would also like it to have a pun-tastic title based on the word Reman. Reman In Light, The Memory Remans that sort of thing.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 13, 2019 21:07:23 GMT
Remantrations of the Romulans.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 14, 2019 18:31:09 GMT
Everybody loves Remans...?
I'll, I'll get my coat...
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 14, 2019 19:09:20 GMT
Your white coat?
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Post by drmick on Jan 14, 2019 20:05:35 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 14, 2019 20:14:31 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 14, 2019 20:46:20 GMT
I was there all along!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 30, 2019 21:33:04 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 30, 2019 21:42:33 GMT
I must see this!
[troll]Best Star Trek captain/actor ever.[/troll]
Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 1, 2019 7:47:33 GMT
Sounding pretty interesting, isn't it? He looks good doesn't he?
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 27, 2019 18:36:45 GMT
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Post by Toph on Feb 27, 2019 19:06:00 GMT
That's a very nice article.
I wonder what the target audience for Lower Decks is, exactly.
I'd have assumed originally that it was an all-age accessible action/drama series like Gargoyles, or Voltron, Which lines up with his "kids series" statement. But the rick & morty guy would make me think "adult comedy," which lines up with his "hilarious" statement.
Granted, the latter does not mean it isn't all-ages. I fully admit my bias against R&M, and my intense distrust of most "adult" animated comedies. And the writers that come from them. (Though one of the Phineas & Ferb guys cut his teeth on Family Guy, so there's that)
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 1, 2019 20:25:33 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 5, 2019 9:19:15 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Mar 5, 2019 9:30:59 GMT
I hope they cast Patrick Stewart!!
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 5, 2019 10:28:46 GMT
Imagine if they decided to go younger and cast Tom Hardy.
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Post by Toph on Mar 5, 2019 15:13:52 GMT
I FIGURED OUT THE PLOT!!!!
The Romulans make Shinzon II (Tom Hardy), and through a black hole caused by Red Matter which ends up destroying the romulan sun, sends him back in time to replace Young Picard (James McAvoy)
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 22, 2019 20:40:53 GMT
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