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Post by Pinwig on Sept 17, 2019 20:04:53 GMT
But... But surely that's as bad as Transformers using each other's weapons?
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Post by Toph on Sept 17, 2019 20:32:23 GMT
Maybe he wants to know if he needs to be outraged, in advance.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 17, 2019 20:33:14 GMT
Good point.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 25, 2019 7:55:21 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 25, 2019 9:12:20 GMT
Ironworks! Dare we dream of Micromaster bases?
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 25, 2019 10:27:31 GMT
The problem here is there's just been an Ironworks in the ten pack. However that used the modified Powertrain sculpt, intended for the Monster Truck patrol.
Some doubt has been thrown at these elsewhere, the Hasbro numbers are lower than many of the later Siege ones. We think the w5 stuff and exclusive apocalypse - these are similar numbers to E7163 WFC-S50 Apeface - were later additions so it could be these were in the works prior to whatever happened.
They could also be Cyberverse .... no Warrior Wheeljack yet
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 25, 2019 11:43:49 GMT
Possibly. Wheeljack has just had a 1-step so far in Cyberverse.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 17:10:30 GMT
I DEMAND A SIEGE WHEELJACK.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 25, 2019 17:21:34 GMT
This Wheeljack, if Generations, would be WFC II - Siege was WFC I - which we think is called Armageddon
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 18:04:26 GMT
As long as he doesn't look like Bruce Willis I don't care.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 25, 2019 19:22:58 GMT
The problem here is there's just been an Ironworks in the ten pack. However that used the modified Powertrain sculpt, intended for the Monster Truck patrol. Some doubt has been thrown at these elsewhere, the Hasbro numbers are lower than many of the later Siege ones. We think the w5 stuff and exclusive apocalypse - these are similar numbers to E7163 WFC-S50 Apeface - were later additions so it could be these were in the works prior to whatever happened. They could also be Cyberverse .... no Warrior Wheeljack yet Monster Truck patrol?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 25, 2019 19:48:50 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 25, 2019 20:15:45 GMT
Ironworks is the main man as far as Micromasters are concerned. Seems odd placed sequentially with those names though. I cannot hope yet.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 25, 2019 20:30:18 GMT
Ironworks is the main man as far as Micromasters are concerned. Seems odd placed sequentially with those names though. I cannot hope yet. Did you read his bio in the encyclopedia. That alone makes him tops for me.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 25, 2019 21:26:35 GMT
RI Construction... Rhode Island Construction, yes... But also Reconstruction.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 25, 2019 21:36:55 GMT
Ironworks is the main man as far as Micromasters are concerned. Seems odd placed sequentially with those names though. I cannot hope yet. Did you read his bio in the encyclopedia. That alone makes him tops for me. Of course! The question is, who filled the moat with Mountain Dew?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2019 6:04:05 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2019 6:09:55 GMT
'Starscream Earth'. Hmmmm. Doesn't sound like Cyberverse.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2019 6:19:50 GMT
In a similar vein, I am reminded
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Post by Llama God on Sept 26, 2019 6:29:44 GMT
I will take these with a Titan-class pinch of salt for the moment, I think. At least until next weekend. Unless Hasbro really *are* going to be dull and going straight to G1 Earth-modes with the next line of toys. Which... wouldn't surprise me, to be honest.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2019 6:39:04 GMT
So Ironworks...
The Hasbro product codes are clue to the order in which events occur, lower numbers earlier in time, higher later.
E7157 Deluxe Ironworks
E7670 Micromaster Mega Value 10 Pack
So I'd guess this Ironworks was created before the 10 pack, even though we got the 10 pack first.
We don't know what it is yet.....
But assume for a second it is Iron Fist. Hasbro discover they can't use the name, thanks to Marvel/Danial Rand - the Epic Collection is top stuff. Fistiron gets voted down, possibly because someone recalls MOTU Fisto sounding slightly rude. They grab the Ironworks name knowing they're not going to the Micromaster base toy because Powertrain's retool is destined to be Big Hauler.
Then retailers summon the Exclusive Apocalypse, they want Ironworks as a quick and easy repaint for the 10 pack, discover the name is on the incoming list already and pick something else.....
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The alternate version of the theory says this is MM Ironworks, with a base using the connectors on Omega Supreme and Astrotrain. The 10 pack comes along and they go for a different name to differentiate the toys and create confusion amoungst us fans.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2019 7:18:32 GMT
I will take these with a Titan-class pinch of salt for the moment, I think. At least until next weekend. Unless Hasbro really *are* going to be dull and going straight to G1 Earth-modes with the next line of toys. Which... wouldn't surprise me, to be honest. I'd take them as gospel. The site the info is sourced from is a distributor who has form for putting listings up before Hasbro announces them: they definitely did some stuff during Seige, possibly w5, I'd need to check to be sure what but I want to say Astrotrain and Apeface. EDIT: Astrotrain tmukhub.proboards.com/post/354977/threadSelect Megatron tmukhub.proboards.com/post/354976/thread
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Post by Toph on Sept 26, 2019 7:33:19 GMT
Anyone wondering what is cyberverse and what is generations, that unless the classes were applied by the leaker, Cyberverse does not use Deluxe, Voyager, or Leader classes. They use Scout, Warrior, and Ultra.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2019 7:34:09 GMT
Oooo. Now we've been wanting proper Voyager Earth jets for Donkeys Years. Will this be the dog's b0!!0(<$ or dog meat? Last year's Voyager robot - which was rather good - with a new plane frame on it's back? Or completely new mould? I'd be so happy if they made cockpit Titanmaster compatible.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2019 7:36:50 GMT
Anyone wondering what is cyberverse and what is generations, that unless the classes were applied by the leaker, Cyberverse does not use Deluxe, Voyager, or Leader classes. They use Scout, Warrior, and Ultra. Any doubt we had yesterday is clarified this morning The screenshots from the distributors website show that the class description comes from there.
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Post by Toph on Sept 26, 2019 7:38:08 GMT
I hope that 1) it's Infintration based (not gonna happen), and 2) it actually transforms (highly unlikely)
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2019 7:41:09 GMT
Unless some of these are Rescue Bots Academy!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2019 7:44:42 GMT
<glares at Burns>
NO
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2019 7:45:28 GMT
It is the TF line everyone forgets exists.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2019 10:16:42 GMT
Three of the deluxe imply things about what's going to happen down the line: Cliffjumper remoulded into BB Wheeljack remoulded into Tracks (as per Generations/RTS) and Sunstreaker (CW) Hoist remoulded into Trailbreaker. Whereas if you think this is Ironfist - I'm not sure it is - this would be a Siege Hound retool/repaint.
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