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Post by Llama God on Dec 2, 2022 9:17:36 GMT
Yes, this does feel more like a Bayverse film than a sequel to Bumblebee. And we have no idea about who *any* of the characters are, especially the humans - which is unusual. But then this is a trailer meant to get bums(blebees) on seat(blebees), and with cinema performance not being what it was pre-pandemic it seems that showing nothing but robots is their best bet. Especially after it was pushed back for a year.
I do like the look of some of these designs, Arcee especially, but I also hope that there's more rendering to be done since some of them do look a little unfinished. That said, I do wonder if that's an artifact of our being used to the Bayverse-style models, which had greeblies upon greeblies providing detail, whereas these have cleaner sections which may end up looking odd and unusual to us. We'll find out next summer, I guess...
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 2, 2022 22:22:33 GMT
Aside from Prime, Bumblebee and Arcee we've gone back to the fuck all colour days. Primal's design might be alright, but the all gun-metal gray colours mean it's a complete failure.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 26, 2022 13:08:33 GMT
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Post by KnightBeat on Apr 27, 2023 18:29:59 GMT
Trailer 2 has introduced an unexpected character. It's going to be a huge disappointment, isn't it?
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Post by Rich on Apr 27, 2023 19:33:59 GMT
Yep. After Bumblebee, it looks like they've gone back for more of the same old unwatchable shit.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 27, 2023 20:51:13 GMT
For me, Bumblebee was the worst of the lot. This trailer has caught my eye go. I'll give the film a go.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 27, 2023 21:54:47 GMT
Hmm. Suggests an overly cluttered plot again. Still, we shall see.
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 27, 2023 22:17:30 GMT
You can count me out.
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Post by Toph on Apr 28, 2023 4:54:46 GMT
Hmm. Suggests an overly cluttered plot again. Still, we shall see. That's what I worry about. That's why Bumblebee and the first movie worked, and the other ones didn't, because the plots were way too cluttered. The Autobots/Maximals/Terrorcons was pushing it, but it could work out really well. Transformers are stirring up trouble, the autobots go down and find and believe it's the Maximals, when it's actually the terrorcons. That works. It's a basic plot, but one that serves character development very well. I mean, I'm just so tired of every single movie constantly having to ramp up the stakes, until every villain is a world-ending threat. MCU ramped it up so badly that now the world isn't enough, and that every movie the multiverse is in danger. The World Ender's appearance isn't an exciting reveal for me. It's just giving me PTSD flashbacks to the incomprehensible mess that was The Last Knight. But I'm going to go, because I'm a slut and Michelle Yeoh is friggin' Airazor. |
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 28, 2023 21:09:58 GMT
Do we assume then that Scourge and co are the new Galvatron, Cyclonus and Sco- oh, I see what they did there...
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 29, 2023 5:18:04 GMT
Hang on, I thought 'The Last Knight' established that Earth _was_ Unicron. Are they ignoring that now?
Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 29, 2023 6:28:22 GMT
Hang on, I thought 'The Last Knight' established that Earth _was_ Unicron. Are they ignoring that now? Martin Earth is Unicron?!?!?! What on, erm, Earth are you talking about?! What an absolutely stupid plot idea! There's no way even the Bayverse would do that! |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 29, 2023 6:43:56 GMT
Earth is Unicron?!?!?! What on, erm, Earth are you talking about?! What an absolutely stupid plot idea! There's no way even the Bayverse would do that! You're right, I must have imagined it. Oh no, wait. Martin |
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Post by Rich on Apr 29, 2023 7:07:26 GMT
Earth is Unicron?!?!?! What on, erm, Earth are you talking about?! What an absolutely stupid plot idea! There's no way even the Bayverse would do that! You're right, I must have imagined it. Oh no, wait. Martin Apparently I've never actually seen any of that film (genuinely didn't realise). That was ... well, it zipped along, I guess. |
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Post by Llama God on Apr 29, 2023 7:08:59 GMT
Well, I've seen a theory that...
All the shots we've seen in the trailer of Unicron are flashbacks. Certainly the planet that he's approaching in the trailer is not Earth, since it has rings. So the working theory is that Unicron *was* free and consuming planets, then he somehow got trapped and became Earth, and now the Terrorcons are trying to reawaken him. Which could work.
Unfortunately, it's also vaguely coherent, so I very much doubt that that'll be the plot at all.
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Post by legios on Apr 29, 2023 7:16:33 GMT
Hang on, I thought 'The Last Knight' established that Earth _was_ Unicron. Are they ignoring that now? Martin Probably. I mean, it is practically tradition at this point that the Live Action Transformers films can only be said to maintain a loose sense of fitting together, with the aid of significant amounts of duct tape. Karl |
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Post by Toph on Apr 29, 2023 8:03:17 GMT
Hang on, I thought 'The Last Knight' established that Earth _was_ Unicron. Are they ignoring that now? Martin Earth is Unicron?!?!?! What on, erm, Earth are you talking about?! What an absolutely stupid plot idea! There's no way even the Bayverse would do that! Twice. And TFP did it first. |
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 29, 2023 8:11:59 GMT
It ahould be clear by now that continuity in these films doesn't really exist.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 29, 2023 8:25:20 GMT
At least they have that much in common with Marvel and Sunbow.
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 30, 2023 11:59:25 GMT
All the money these films generate, all the money these people get paid for making them, and they can't give us a decent story...
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 30, 2023 12:03:56 GMT
At least they have that much in common with Marvel and Sunbow. Martin I'd take their continuity over the Bayverse's any day. And they were 40 years ago. Storytelling has evolved since then, Shirley? |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on May 3, 2023 18:28:54 GMT
Booked the afternoon of 8 June off work and booked my favourite seat in my favourite SuperScreen to give RotB the benefit of the doubt.
Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on May 3, 2023 21:10:29 GMT
Booked the afternoon of 8 June off work and booked my favourite seat in my favourite SuperScreen to give RotB the benefit of the doubt. Martin I... I'm so sorry. |
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Post by Benn on May 4, 2023 17:04:46 GMT
I mean, Bumblebee was good.
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Post by The Doctor on May 4, 2023 18:11:03 GMT
Plan to see it Sat or Sun week of release with M and his Beast Wars mate.
I am genuinely looking forward to this.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on May 4, 2023 19:05:02 GMT
That doesn't bode well for the crushing disappointment to come.
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Post by The Doctor on May 4, 2023 19:25:06 GMT
I've had 6 shite films in a row from this series. My luck must turn!
-Ralph
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Post by legios on May 4, 2023 19:53:57 GMT
A word of caution - that is what is known as the Sunk Costs Fallacy - it is the same logic that keeps losing players at the roulette wheel, the poker table, or the Turf Accountant's window. The idea that "my luck has to change soon", when in fact it doesn't. Even truly random events like a compeletely frictionless die are only guaranteed to produce all possible ranges of results over infinite time.
Likewise, a finite number of monkey's given a finite period of time with typewriters are not guaranteed to produce anything coherent, let alone shakespeare...
In any bounded time period it is entirely possible to have the same result turn up for the entire period.
tldr: They absolutely could continue to turn out dreadful films for the rest of our life-times, there is no force that guarantees any of them being good. :-)
Karl
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on May 4, 2023 20:01:05 GMT
"Now, would this brilliant plan involve us climbing out of our trenches and walking slowly towards the enemy, sir?"
"How can you possibly know that, Blackadder? It’s classified information."
"It’s the same plan that we used last time, and the seventeen times before that."
"Exactly! And that is what so brilliant about it! We will catch the watchful Hun totally off guard! Doing precisely what we have done eighteen times before is exactly the last thing they’ll expect us to do this time! There is however one small problem.
"That everyone always gets slaughtered the first ten seconds."
"That’s right! And Field Marshal Haig is worried that this may be depressing the men a tadge."
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Post by legios on May 4, 2023 21:34:15 GMT
*takes hat off to Martin*
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