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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 24, 2023 11:31:36 GMT
I'm trying to think how the Mirror universe Engineering Gorn in Enterprise fits in.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 29, 2023 22:19:26 GMT
Season 2 has got off to a great start. Three very different episodes to each other, but three absolute belters in their own ways. Great stuff.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 30, 2023 8:46:03 GMT
I am no rush. I found s1 to be the poorest first season of any Trek show by far. Never before have I watched a first series of a Trek show and thought: 'I don't care if this never comes back'
-Ralph
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Post by Llama God on Jun 30, 2023 12:22:00 GMT
I'm absolutely loving season 2 so far. I mean I loved season 1, so there were some high expectations coming in, but it's safe to say that they've been surpassed. Which is amazing, especially considering that the last two episodes at least are basically both retreads of often-done scenarios in SF TV. But they're done so bloody well that you don't notice. Fantastic stuff.
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Post by Toph on Jun 30, 2023 16:55:04 GMT
Episode 3: Great La'an episode.
I still like the guy playing Kirk. He was just super great here, too. But he still is not Kirk. Nothing about him or his performance reads as Kirk.
Also, they acknowledge that the augment war did not happen in 93 as TOS originally said. Neat. Helps Voyager, DS9 and Enterprise's trips to the 90s/00s out a lot.
Although it's a big leap from imagining Ricardo Montelbon conquering half the world in 93 to this little kid doing it in the 2040s (I'm assuming) |
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Post by Bogatan on Jun 30, 2023 17:46:33 GMT
Only seen the first two so far. I felt like the back end of the first season dropped off ever so slightly so Im happy to see it back to its best.
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 30, 2023 22:04:40 GMT
I'm watching the last ep of season one at the moment. I've loved this show through and through.
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 1, 2023 16:28:11 GMT
Episode 3: Spoiler
Great La'an episode.
I still like the guy playing Kirk. He was just super great here, too. But he still is not Kirk. Nothing about him or his performance reads as Kirk.
Also, they acknowledge that the augment war did not happen in 93 as TOS originally said. Neat. Helps Voyager, DS9 and Enterprise's trips to the 90s/00s out a lot.
Although it's a big leap from imagining Ricardo Montelbon conquering half the world in 93 to this little kid doing it in the 2040s (I'm assuming) Spoiler
In fairness he was playing a different timeline Kirk both times so some of it could be intentional. Having said that I do se a bit of Shatners Kirk in the performance, just less OTT. I also get a bit of Pines... charm? Not sure but definitely a bit of Pines performance.
Rather than get bogged down in timeline dates Im just assuming the temporal cold war means the dates keep moving. Now (SNW) its 2040 something, by the time we get to TOS somethings gone wrong and its (briefly) back to 1992. And at one point time was changed to make Khan a white British guy. Crazy.
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Post by Llama God on Jul 2, 2023 8:29:10 GMT
Yeah, I wasn't convinced by Wesley's Kirk first time around, since he just didn't seem to have the charisma necessary for the character. But this time around it worked a little better.
What makes it okay for me, though, is that at no point has he played the Kirk that we know from TOS. He's never been the Captain of *our* Enterprise, so basically I consider him to be a proto-Kirk, without the swagger that he gains from being the Captain of the Federation Starship Enterprise. Don't forget (like the Abrams films did) that Kirk was always considered a nerd during his Academy days, and someone who slowly came out of his shell - that's what we're seeing in Wesley's performance.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 6, 2023 22:41:41 GMT
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Post by Toph on Jul 14, 2023 6:10:44 GMT
Episode 5 is great!
I have actually come to really like T'Pring.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 14, 2023 11:33:48 GMT
Similar. She could just do with a break and something going well for her!!
Her father is the stand out character of the episode though 😆 |
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Post by Llama God on Jul 15, 2023 8:35:30 GMT
Loved it. I know that some people have been moaning that her relationship didn't quite seem to fit in with what we saw in Amok Time, but aside from shut up, just enjoy this, I had been wondering what would have happened to put distance between them given how supportive she became of Spock in season one. Turns out that it was Spock that fucked this one up.
Which seems about right for him. So for me, this all fits.
Also, I'm sure that people will be upset about the Spock/Chapel thing, because that clearly wasn't something that was going on in TOS. But when the actors have as much chemistry as they do here, I'm more than happy to let them go with it and see where it ends up. Probably with Spock fucking things up again.
Also loved Pike being hot (it's that version of the green tunic, it does things) and awkward space dad trying to make the ceremony work for Spock, and T'Pring's dad was great.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 15, 2023 12:36:53 GMT
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Post by Toph on Jul 15, 2023 16:59:34 GMT
It's like, "Chris... How can you be a starfleet captain, and be soooo bad at on the spot bullshitting?" |
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 23, 2023 17:47:28 GMT
For those who may have missed the announcement, SNWs "Those Old Scientists" got released last night as it was being screened at SDCC.
Its everything I could have hoped for.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 23, 2023 20:03:36 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 23, 2023 20:10:25 GMT
It certainly made me smile. Episode 2.1 appears to have vanished now though so looks like something has gone wrong with the series metadata putting this episode up early. |
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 23, 2023 20:28:22 GMT
4 hours later I still have a smile on my face. Spoiler
I try imagining a time I do not find the Koala hilarious.
I can not do it.
They have to find an excuse to do this again.
Una and Ransom need some together time.
At the very least Spock and or Pelia need to guest on Lower Decks. |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 23, 2023 20:53:43 GMT
I was expecting Pelia to be there on their ship when they got back. Both easy cameos for the next season.
Fully expecting a visit from the Department for Temporal Investigations too.
Loved the animated intro.
And how the LD humour was still there but never forced and perfectly fitting.
"It's a poster... that's pinned?" still has me chuckling. |
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Post by Toph on Jul 25, 2023 7:16:39 GMT
It was genuinely so good. I mean, they focused on the exact right things, and it's exactly how I believed LD would be integrated...toned down just enough that the jokes don't break the believability of the setting.
The gag reel from this episode will be amazing, too. Newsome and Quaid improvised quite a bit, and they've talked about Spock's goodbye. They shortened it quite a bit because they couldn't get a take where whatever Jack bumbled out, that Tawney couldn't stop cracking up.
And thanks entirely to Tawney Newsome, it brought something new to Beckett.
I mean, I always got that she's the unpopular kid who thinks she's a cool kid but decides to hang with the unpopular kids instead...
But that she's as much of a dork as the other three never came across to me in animation like it did with five minutes of Newsome's acting. And I think I have a crush on Tawney Newsome now. |
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Post by Llama God on Jul 25, 2023 7:19:58 GMT
Yep, absolutely great. And a big fan of the koala here, also.
It was, indeed, incredible how well it all fit together. Much as I love both series I was expecting the tone to be a little jarring. But nope, it worked really well.
And yeah, amazed that they actually animated the whole intro. That can't have been cheap. But it's brilliant that they added that space leech thing sucking on the Enterprise's nacelle this time. And so glad they did, because now, thanks to Lower Decks, whenever they do Trek show openings showing the main ship flying through the galaxy all I can think about is the Cerritos' misadventures...
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Post by Toph on Jul 25, 2023 7:38:57 GMT
I'm fairly sure they didn't animate a new intro, rather than they cell shaded the existing one, and tweaked it. |
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 3, 2023 22:27:13 GMT
Some tonal whiplash over the past 3 episodes.
Each fantastic, but damn!
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 3, 2023 22:28:15 GMT
The Klingons!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 3, 2023 23:08:31 GMT
Dishonoured!!
What a wonderful episode.
There is already a vastly overlapping Venn diagram of Star Trek 'fans' and Twitter Blue Tickers who didn't like and feel offended by this episode. Sigh. |
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Post by Llama God on Aug 5, 2023 9:10:50 GMT
Alas, that is not a surprise. There will always be those who think that Star Trek should be one, fixed thing, forgetting that it was actually, essentially, originally an anthology-style show where the cast moved from one type of story to the next. The fact that Strange New World is really playing around with this idea is something that I'm loving, even if it does give a little tonal whiplash. But that's what makes it exciting - not knowing what it's going to be from one week to the other.
As for me, I absolutely loved this episode. Not quite perfect, and it needed a couple of better songs, but I loved that they did it. Celia Rose Gooding has a fantastic voice, and that was great to see her highlighted. Ethan Peck being a good singer was something of a surprise. And I found it hilarious how well they dealt with Anson Mount, who has admitted he's not a great singer.
My only complaint really is one that's not just to this episode, but for the whole season - there's too much James Kirk! Not that I have anything against Paul Wesley - he's doing a great job of making a Kirk that's his own, but could also seem like the Kirk that's somewhere between the pile of books on legs and the cocky Starship captain that we came to know. The problem is he's just in it too much, and stealing focus from the Strange New Worlds crew. He does in a way serve to develop La'An's character in a way that possibly the others on the regular crew couldn't have, so I might forgive it evetually. Just as long as he doesn't show up even more next season. He's got the Farragut to run!
But yeah, this was a lot of fun. And it helped move some of the characters' stories on as well, which was always good. And we got a return cameo from Bruce Horak (Hemmer) as the Klingon captain, which was great to see. And those Klingons were just brilliant. Perfect choice to not go with dramatic opera or heavy rock like everyone would have expected - brilliant choice. Loved it.
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Post by Toph on Aug 12, 2023 8:21:09 GMT
Uhura: Sir, it's the Klingons.
Pike: Oh no.
Me: OH YES |
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Post by The Huff on Sept 6, 2023 21:32:04 GMT
I'm working my way through this and am absolutely loving it. No two episodes are the same!
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 7, 2023 0:02:07 GMT
So as Those Old Scientists continues towards my most viewed episode of anything ever, Ive noticed about the music on SNW generally, not just this episode.
Does anyone else get a Star Wars vibe from some of it?
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