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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2024 1:04:00 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 23, 2024 1:43:54 GMT
Cosmos getting a PR will please a lot of people.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2024 2:07:39 GMT
Yeah, several of those PRs will be good.
Sureshot & Dinobot - I did say.
G2 Breakdown & Wheeljak - yes please. Will Wheeljack have Windsheer?
Overcharge... not wild on Leader Blitzwing but ...
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Post by Toph on Feb 23, 2024 5:08:28 GMT
I however absolutely adore leader Blitzwing.
My friend has a theory, and I'm not certain it holds weight because we don't know ANYTHING about Hasbro's plans for the minicons except there's at least two all new molds, but he thinks that the Cosmos refresh is to facilitate Wheeljack coming with his minicon.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Feb 23, 2024 7:55:40 GMT
It is certainly a cheap wave refresh with lots of molds that can't be reused elsewhere easily.
Cosmos was a major shelf warmer around here. Was he really that hard to get hold of?
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Post by Llama God on Feb 23, 2024 7:59:39 GMT
Well this certainly reinforces the theory that Hasbro won't put out much that's new in order to lower expenses. Let's see how that works out for them. Also I'm predicting that those two leaders will be $60/£60 by 2025.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 23, 2024 8:21:18 GMT
It is certainly a cheap wave refresh with lots of molds that can't be reused elsewhere easily. Cosmos was a major shelf warmer around here. Was he really that hard to get hold of? We were fortunate. It was short packed/scalped to buggery and rarer then hen's teeth for many fans, especially in the US. -Ralph
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Post by Toph on Feb 23, 2024 8:40:47 GMT
He sold out on Pulse within minutes. I was not lucky enough to snag one then.
I found him in stores exactly once. They had two, I bought one. Never saw another. Which is unfortunate as mine has a very bum arm. Bad enough I actually want to replace him. Bum arm aside, my experience is not unique.
So yeah. Good news for me, and a lot of people. Galaxy Shuttle is similar.
These are some good PR choices (along with Grimlock). Usually they choose absurd things no one had any problems getting, like ER Wheeljack and Arcee.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2024 8:46:40 GMT
It is certainly a cheap wave refresh with lots of molds that can't be reused elsewhere easily. Cosmos was a major shelf warmer around here. Was he really that hard to get hold of? Smyths got solid cases of him that Wal*Mart didn't stock: they just got him at 1 per mixed case of 8. Hence the disparity between the UK & US. Likewise Galaxy Shuttle didn't make general release in the US, though I believe it did latterly hit discount stores there? Hopefully the latter two Velocitron Deluxes, Shadowstrip and Crasher, can return in the same manner.
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Post by Benn on Feb 23, 2024 8:48:50 GMT
I'm happy that Ramjet is getting a redo. If Hasbro can just see their way to getting a Thrust back out there, I'll be a happy boy.
Aside from that, only Sureshot is really interesting me. But knowing my luck, it'll be a repaint of the Volvo Prime.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2024 9:17:12 GMT
My friend has a theory, and I'm not certain it holds weight because we don't know ANYTHING about Hasbro's plans for the minicons except there's at least two all new molds, but he thinks that the Cosmos refresh is to facilitate Wheeljack coming with his minicon. There *might* be something to that but I think all of Wheeljack's new parts are on the same sprues as his Minicon so it was unlikely they'd be separated. Plus it's not as if Cosmos is the only PR in this lot, albeit the lone PR in the deluxe case, there seem to be a larger number of them over both Generations/Legacy and Studio Series assortments. Of note is Ramjet: that completes the promised PRs of the Target Seeker 2 pack - Ramjet was on the runway previously, think we have a product code for him, the mould got used elsewhere (G2? Sandstorm? Cloudcover?) and Dirge took his place. Hopefully this, and the PR of the likewise previously exclusive Cosmos & Galaxy Shuttle EDIT and WFC Soundwave, Laserbeak & Ravage /EDIT, means they can get Earthrise Thrust & Runabout and WFC VW Bumblebee, all exclusive & scarce, back into circulation. G2 Breakaway means the multi year scheme to do G2 Menasor isn't forgotten either. Yes, it's a cheap wave designed to save some money and possibly indicative of wider Hasbro problems, but most of this looks well chosen and good news for fans.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2024 9:18:26 GMT
I'm happy that Ramjet is getting a redo. If Hasbro can just see their way to getting a Thrust back out there, I'll be a happy boy. Aside from that, only Sureshot is really interesting me. But knowing my luck, it'll be a repaint of the Volvo Prime. Volvo Prime is not a deluxe like Sureshot. Those in the know say it's the Targetmaster
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Post by shaggydave76 on Feb 23, 2024 9:26:49 GMT
Yeah I'm trying to get enthusiastic about these and failing Odds are Galvatron will be the Kingdom version, so don't need that. Megatron at least has a class size bump but not many recent leaders have been that much bigger than Voyagers. And I have a fair few grey G1 tank Megatrons now. Gun would be nice but that ain't gonna happen. Now a Leader, or Commander, G2 Tank Megatron with the proper G2 chest is a completely different story..... Clever the engineering to give you the option of a G1 chest by reversing the torso. Start with green, go purple for Archforce, Blue for Reverse Convoy and even a grey version. That I have money for, even though it's beyond the purview of SS86 Surely this time, Megs will HAVE to have his Walther P38 gun mode? How can he be a proper Studio Series '86 figure without it - he never transformed into a tank in the '86 Movie. How may times have we seen Masterpiece and Third-Party Megatron with his gun mode, and they seem to get away with it. I really don't understand the logic behind the ban in this day and age. A REAL Walther P38 doesn't even look like Megatron. It has a brown stock, an all black barrel and no sign of a Decepticon Insignia anywhere
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2024 9:58:39 GMT
It won't happen - Megatron's gun mode may not look like a real Walther P38 but it does look enough like a real gun, and thus is prohibited under US toy gun safety laws.
3P stuff is not available at US retail, that's how they get round it. That and by not giving a flying fig about what the various laws say abut a great many things
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2024 11:00:42 GMT
Having seen Legacy United Wave 5 - tmukhub.proboards.com/post/515023/thread - with it's PRs and cheap repaints, I wonder if the PRs here are similarly grouped in one wave, possibly with the long sat on the shelf Hatchet and/or Gamer jet repaints? Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Perceptor PR Product Number: G0565 Tra Gen Studio series Deluxe 86 Jazz PR Product Number: G0569 Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Optimus Prime PR Product Number: G0536 Tra Gen Studio series Ldr TF3 Shockwave PR Product Number: G0483 Tra Gen Studio series Ldr 86 Grimlock PR Product Number: G0485
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Post by Jim on Feb 23, 2024 15:07:51 GMT
This is my favourite recent listings leak!
Armada Wheeljack, Sureshot, G2 Breakdown, and Overcharge all go on the list.
I'm happy that people will finally be able to get hold of Cosmos, my favourite release of that year. Like SS86 Grimlock there's a strong aftermarket for him, even though he got deeply discounted at Smyths in Germany, and I never mind seeing scalpers cry.
Similarly, Galaxy Shuttle is welcome. I never managed to pick up one when he was going cheap in the UK, and a lot of the people who did are asking for a big mark-up these days.
I'd love to see them go a bit further back in terms of package refreshes / reissues. How about a TR Twin Twist, for instance?
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Post by that_bluestreak on Feb 23, 2024 19:09:04 GMT
Cosmos getting a PR will please a lot of people. -Ralph yes, definitely. i didn't get one last time round but i might be persuaded this time...
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 23, 2024 20:45:45 GMT
I'd buy a missing link Huffer. Missing Link throttlebots... what the public is crying out for.... It still annoys me that not all the Throttlebots have had updates! But then they wouldn't pull-back-and-go so maybe it's for the best. We've had Goldbug and Chase/Roadburn redone. I think that's it? -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 23, 2024 20:51:23 GMT
It's a nice toy. His flag is fun and adds a lot of character to it.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2024 21:30:33 GMT
Missing Link throttlebots... what the public is crying out for.... It still annoys me that not all the Throttlebots have had updates! But then they wouldn't pull-back-and-go so maybe it's for the best. We've had Goldbug and Chase/Roadburn redone. I think that's it? -Ralph In Generations? Yes
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2024 21:36:11 GMT
This has been on my mind a bit the last few days since the leak of the deluxe Insecticons, hence the extraction of the Throttlebot posts from the Missing Link thread
I *THINK* That leaves Venom and the Omnibots as the only 84/5 toys not to have a Generations Update though Buzzsaw really could do with a WFC style tape.
Is Ramhorn the only non redone 86 toy? Or do we count his Titanmaster as "good enough" even though there's no tape mode? (The FoC Datadisc definitely isn't good enough!)
After That Rollbar, Wideload, Searchlight and Freeway are the earliest characters I can think of with no decent Generations update.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 23, 2024 22:20:25 GMT
*cough*
The mini-spies.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Feb 23, 2024 23:04:10 GMT
This has been on my mind a bit the last few days since the leak of the deluxe Insecticons, hence the extraction of the Throttlebot posts from the Missing Link thread I *THINK* That leaves Venom and the Omnibots as the only 84/5 toys not to have a Generations Update though Buzzsaw really could do with a WFC style tape. Is Ramhorn the only non redone 86 toy? Or do we count his Titanmaster as "good enough" even though there's no tape mode? (The FoC Datadisc definitely isn't good enough!) After That Rollbar, Wideload, Searchlight and Freeway are the earliest characters I can think of with no decent Generations update. Weaponizers or not, I'm genuinely surprised the friggin' POWERDASHERS got updates before the Omnibots.
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Post by Toph on Feb 24, 2024 6:12:53 GMT
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Post by Toph on Feb 24, 2024 6:16:19 GMT
I wonder if the 13 are the new -izers
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 24, 2024 8:59:25 GMT
A LARGE part of this list is Primes/the 13 over 3 sizes tfwiki.net/wiki/ThirteenThen we've a complete set of Aerialbot limbs plus, I assume, a Combaticon. No TorsosThe missing deluxe Insecticon:Possibly his repaint/retoola crowd pleasing PRTwo obvious early 2000s remakesA Rescue BotOne I didn't knowAnd a questionYellow PR - but no PR marking? - or one of the blue coloured ones?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 24, 2024 9:00:20 GMT
I wonder if the 13 are the new -izers They've not used that gimmick on toys larger than deluxe before
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 24, 2024 9:05:05 GMT
Alpha Trion - Thundertron recolour?
That makes me wonder if any more of the 13 are recolours
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 24, 2024 9:36:24 GMT
Blimey. We're getting into remakes of the remakes of the remakes now.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Feb 24, 2024 9:59:19 GMT
I wonder if the 13 are the new -izers They've not used that gimmick on toys larger than deluxe before You forget the garbage truck junkion. But even if they haven't, that doesn't mean they can't start. They also don't consider the core class entries like vertibreak and bouldercrash to be -izers, even though they're totally apart of the sets. So, I wonder if the 13 are the newest -izers?
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