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Post by Kingoji on Jun 2, 2021 13:55:09 GMT
Fucker came with one already.  |
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Post by The Huff on Jun 2, 2021 13:57:37 GMT
But only Hot Rod/Rodimus is the chosen one.
Not Sentinel, Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Thunderwing or even Longtooth.
Don't tell me that it's believed that the Matrix gave Optimus his trailer?
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Post by Benn on Jun 2, 2021 15:30:44 GMT
Maybe. In the war flashback in Marvel #1 Optimus has no trailer. Maybe he didn't have the Matrix then either?
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 2, 2021 16:02:18 GMT
As much as I love TF:TM, I've always preferred the original idea of the Matrix being a computer program rather than a bauble of destinyyyy.
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Post by Toph on Jun 2, 2021 17:08:38 GMT
This may be why the Matrix rejected Ultra Magnus. The wrong kind of trailer. -Ralph "Man, this bitch already a truck. What am I supposed to do? Make him a double truck? Pass." |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 2, 2021 17:41:04 GMT
Did Rodimus Prime ever use his trailer platform in official fiction?
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Post by Toph on Jun 2, 2021 17:57:38 GMT
It appeared in the Commodore 64 game, and nowhere else, ever. It's official name apparently is the Mobile Defense Bay. tfwiki.net/wiki/Mobile_Defense_BayAnd in looking this up, it seems the idea that Rodimus is a giant hotrod with a trailer comes from the sunbow episode Only Human, where he ditches the trailer Optimus style. |
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Post by The Huff on Jun 2, 2021 19:15:14 GMT
I'm fine with him having an (almost) Optimus Prime style battle platform but I don't like the idea that he doesn't need it to become a vehicle.
Perhaps he should just turn into the whole thing - that would make more sense in the Matrix upgrading him (which, in the context of the Movie, would have been a one off historic event as the whole point of the Matrix in that was that it would one day find the one Chosen one and hadn't been magically upgrading non-worthy Autobot leaders in the past).
If he was simply upgraded into a bigger car form, then the trailer being added later by more traditional means is fine too if he decided he wanted to lug a battle platform around so he can never use it just to be like Optimus Prime. He would have had Wheeljack (nope dead) Ratchet (nope dead) Huffer (nope dead) Wreck Gar build it for him.
But I've always seen the space Winnebago as more of a one piece van type vehicle - not a cab pulling a circus type trailer.
Well, they certainly weren't wrong when they said the new Commander Class toy would be controversial!
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 2, 2021 19:50:34 GMT
This cold war just got hot!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 2, 2021 19:50:34 GMT
a one off historic event as the whole point of the Matrix in that was that it would one day find the one Chosen one and hadn't been magically upgrading non-worthy Autobot leaders in the past Very lucky for all concerned that the 'chosen one' just happened to be the only Autobot in the room just as Unicron was about to destroy Cybertron. Would have been slightly more convincing if there had been several Autobots present, so the Matrix actually _had_ a choice. Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 2, 2021 19:51:21 GMT
Ah, but the Matrix did have a choice. It rejected Ultra Magnus and Galvatron.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 2, 2021 19:56:50 GMT
Ah, but the Matrix did have a choice. It rejected Ultra Magnus and Galvatron. Galvatron was a creation of Unicron, and Magnus wasn't around when the Matrix wanted to be opened. I'm sure if he'd been there at that point it would have picked him over Hot Rod. And then there's the whole Matrix-realises-it's-made-a-terrible-mistake 'Return of Optimus Prime' business... Martin |
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Post by Toph on Jun 2, 2021 20:02:54 GMT
I mean all things considered, they didn't have to make him an oversized Hotrod. If the "trailer" was always going to be a seperate piece because they decided for some reason that it was impossible to make the vehicle completely intigrated into the robot (which is false because titaniums did it years ago, and that line wasn't run by the professional TF designers), there's no reason they couldn't have reimagined the original "cab" section as a pick-up truck.
The original toy always had a truck+fifth wheel vibe, as much as it did a straightforward Winnebago vibe.
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 2, 2021 20:47:47 GMT
But... But Rodimus' vehicle mode is lovely...
It's a great ensemble. Robot, trailer, battle platform... Lovely...
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 2, 2021 20:59:58 GMT
I loved the original Rodders toy back in the same way. I am still bitter at missing out on the reissue!
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 2, 2021 21:06:04 GMT
There's still a part of my mind that thinks Rodimus and Wreck-Gar are the newest greatest toys.
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Post by The Huff on Jun 2, 2021 21:13:45 GMT
a one off historic event as the whole point of the Matrix in that was that it would one day find the one Chosen one and hadn't been magically upgrading non-worthy Autobot leaders in the past Very lucky for all concerned that the 'chosen one' just happened to be the only Autobot in the room just as Unicron was about to destroy Cybertron. Would have been slightly more convincing if there had been several Autobots present, so the Matrix actually _had_ a choice. Martin yt Nah. The Matrix is all knowing so knew that the chosen one would be in the right place at the correct time. That's just how magic works... |
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Post by The Huff on Jun 2, 2021 21:17:07 GMT
I mean all things considered, they didn't have to make him an oversized Hotrod. If the "trailer" was always going to be a seperate piece because they decided for some reason that it was impossible to make the vehicle completely intigrated into the robot (which is false because titaniums did it years ago, and that line wasn't run by the professional TF designers), there's no reason they couldn't have reimagined the original "cab" section as a pick-up truck. The original toy always had a truck+fifth wheel vibe, as much as it did a straightforward Winnebago vibe. Yes. The original Rodimus toy without the trailer reminded me of a Kup style vehicle. |
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Post by Llama God on Jun 3, 2021 7:18:26 GMT
Maybe that's it - the Matrix read Hot Rod's mind as it was upgrading him and found out that deep down Hot Rod wanted to be just like Optimus Prime *and* Kup, and did its best to factor in both in Rodimus' new form...
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 3, 2021 9:18:50 GMT
In which case his Kup would be runneth over.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 18, 2021 16:15:39 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 22, 2021 11:05:04 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 22, 2021 11:09:44 GMT
Sold!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 22, 2021 11:10:17 GMT
(Though I missed out on ER Prowl).
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Post by Jim on Jun 22, 2021 15:26:20 GMT
Nonsense photos! Prowl is dead by the time Hot Rod is Rodimus
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Post by The Huff on Jun 22, 2021 16:06:49 GMT
Nonsense photos! Prowl is dead by the time Hot Rod is Rodimus I too brought this up. But the post was moved to another thread. Anyway, seeing Prowl coming out of Rodimus Primes arse trailer here makes me believe we will definitely get a Commander Optimus toy (with proper trailer) in a year or so. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 22, 2021 16:11:11 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 22, 2021 21:09:11 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 22, 2021 21:11:49 GMT
Nonsense photos! Prowl is dead by the time Hot Rod is Rodimus
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 22, 2021 21:15:56 GMT
His mouth went on fire.
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