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Post by Toph on May 3, 2023 9:13:57 GMT
Nope. The individual deluxes have yet to be released, and if her threepack has, I didn't find it.
These voyagers and deluxes confuse me. I had every belief that like the deluxes of Earthspark and Cyberverse, and the Warriors of nuRiD, these would be substandard to their generations/studio counterparts.
...except they're not. They're every bit as complex and sturdy. So I honestly do not understand the point of these AND studio series. I'm not complaining, I'm just confused as to why we get two deluxe Mirages, two deluxe Bumblebees, and presumably most of the others.
I'd understand if it was like splitting the load of the 86 movie between Kingdom and SS86, in order to get them all out.
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Post by Toph on May 3, 2023 9:18:49 GMT
I'm actually kinda glad I found this before the individuals.
I would have never gotten the vehicles, because I really only cared about Cheetor, and was going to get the Studio versions of the cars, anyway.
So had I found the individual releases I'd have only bought Cheetor and missed out on Wheeljack (which I've come to love), and Nightbird (who's okay).
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Post by Toph on May 4, 2023 9:38:18 GMT
I love Cheetor. This is now my favorite Cheetor toy.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 5, 2023 18:20:38 GMT
These voyagers and deluxes confuse me. I had every belief that like the deluxes of Earthspark and Cyberverse, and the Warriors of nuRiD, these would be substandard to their generations/studio counterparts. ...except they're not. They're every bit as complex and sturdy. So I honestly do not understand the point of these AND studio series. I'm not complaining, I'm just confused as to why we get two deluxe Mirages, two deluxe Bumblebees, and presumably most of the others. I'd understand if it was like splitting the load of the 86 movie between Kingdom and SS86, in order to get them all out. I suspect the beast designs were changed during the delay to the film but the toys were already in production. Hasbro then dumps all those toys into the Mainline with Studio Series getting the updated designs. Not compared the vehicles to see how much difference there is |
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 5, 2023 18:29:45 GMT
I love Cheetor. This is now my favorite Cheetor toy. It's superb. Some of the parts on mine, especially round the head and neck, were unwilling to move at the start of TFing it but they've loosened a bit now. Swap the bronze for more yellow and I might get shot of my Kingdom one. But if anything I think the Airazor is even better. Cheetor is the Kingdom tweaked, Airazor's new. |
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Post by Toph on May 5, 2023 18:57:09 GMT
I disagree on it being a tweaked Kingdom.
The only thing they're really the same with, where this one seems to copy Kingdom, is the head tucking into the beast neck.
Every other similarity seems to stem from the source material (Mainframe's cg model), and that there's only so many places for robot parts to go inside a cheetah.
Like I said earlier, I feel like this is more comparable to ER Prowl and SS86 Jazz. They do a fair few similar things to achieve a very similar look, but the bones of how they do it aren't really the same.
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Post by primenova on May 8, 2023 18:31:48 GMT
Unless someone might have already said - but do you think we'll get a Unicron toy for this line? If they do a line for 2024 like how they did 2nd year for Movie line before RtS or HfD. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 8, 2023 18:36:28 GMT
That's probably a bit of a spoiler there Pete. I've stuck it in some spoiler tags
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Post by The Doctor on May 8, 2023 20:30:18 GMT
Phil, how many Optimus Primals in ROTB are there? I got the Voyager one thinking that was the only 'big' one but is there another?*
-Ralph
*Not the Smash Changer one.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 8, 2023 21:45:57 GMT
Smash Changer
Voyager
Weaponiser
Beast Combiner
Battlemaster
Mask
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Post by primenova on May 9, 2023 19:00:43 GMT
Have we got any links to the Movie poster editted to cut the spoiler from it too? A black banner should cover it up, But should we have a 2nd year for the ty line seeing we currently have the toys out in Cyberverse packs too. ie in Entertainer you have Optimus Prime in both packs but the CV one that sbeen out a while is more expensive
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Post by The Doctor on May 9, 2023 20:56:29 GMT
I suspect this line will have at most a year to run as the next film (Transformers: One) is out in Summer 2024 and will probably have its own toy-line too.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on May 9, 2023 21:09:28 GMT
Phil: any chance of a list of what is in this line minus all the random numbers in Post 1? I've lost track of what is coming out and I HAVE BEAST FEVER
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 9, 2023 21:30:37 GMT
CORE
Core Deluxe Class Hasbro assortment
Bumblebee
Airazor
Cheetor
Mirage
Wheeljack
Nightbird
Core Voyager Class Hasbro assortment
Optimus Prime
Optimus Primal
Rhinox
BEAST ALLIANCE
Beast Battle Master:
Cheetor
Rhinox
Skullcruncher
Optimus Primal
Airazor
"Journey"
Weaponizers: Hasbro assortment
2-pack Optimus Primal & Arrowstripe
2-pack Optimus Prime & Chainclaw
2-pack Arcee & Cheetor
2-pack Wheeljack & Rhinox
Beast Combiners: Hasbro assortment
2-pack Bumblebee & Snarlsaber
2-pack Arcee & Silverfang
2-pack Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher
2-pack Scourge
2-pack Optimus Prime
Battle Changers EAN
Optimus Prime
Rhinox
Bumblebee
(Unknown)
Mirage
Scourge
CHANGERS
Flex Changers Hasbro assortment
Bumblebee
Nightbird
Cheetor
Smash Changers ?Hasbro assortment
Optimus Prime
Optimus Primal
Rhinox
Titan Changers: Hasbro assortment
Cheetor
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Scourge
Bumblebee
Animatronic Changer Optimus Primal
Beast Mode
Beast Mode Bumblebee
Beast Mode Optimus Prime
ROLEPLAY
2-in-1 Masks Hasbro assortment
2-in-1 Mask Bumblebee
2-in-1 Mask Optimus Primal
Roleplay Basic Masks Hasbro assortment
Roleplay Mask Bumblebee
Roleplay Mask Optimus Prime
NERF 2-in-1 Optimus Prime Blaster
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Post by Pinwig on May 9, 2023 22:00:08 GMT
Off you go then, Ralph.
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Post by Stomski on May 9, 2023 22:12:22 GMT
Not to be all PC, but why are they named as boys assortments?
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 9, 2023 23:08:11 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2023 7:22:06 GMT
Right. So the Core are in ROTB and not SS?
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 10, 2023 10:56:26 GMT
The Core THEME is in ROTB with Deluxe & Voyager size toys
The Core CLASS (small TFs) is in Studio Series.
It's F***ing confusing and they did not think the naming of that theme through properly
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 10, 2023 10:58:29 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2023 11:27:32 GMT
The Core THEME is in ROTB with Deluxe & Voyager size toys The Core CLASS (small TFs) is in Studio Series. It's F***ing confusing and they did not think the naming of that theme through properly No wonder I find it hars to follow! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2023 11:55:28 GMT
Right. Let's see if I understand.
ROTB deluxes and voyagers are in their own line.
Core class ROTB toys are in SS.
Other ROTB deluxes and voyagers are in SS: same characters but different toys.
All the 'gimmick' toys are in ROTB's own line.
Is that right?
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 10, 2023 12:46:18 GMT
I think so
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2023 12:59:24 GMT
Phew!
YOU'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS, PRIME.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 10, 2023 13:07:34 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2023 13:15:45 GMT
OF ALL THE THREATS TO OUR PAST.
AND.
OUR FUTURE!!!
-Primal Ralph
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Post by Benn on May 10, 2023 15:07:31 GMT
I nearly bought the Skullcruncher today to give to TR Krok. Not sure why I didn't.
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Post by primenova on May 11, 2023 17:15:21 GMT
Do you think in a future movie line we'll get Primus again? He did not appear in the 5th film but we got a toy repaint in the TF5 toy line. We do get characters in the toy line that are not in the film (how we got the extra characters show up in the comics)
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 13, 2023 8:13:08 GMT
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Post by legios on May 13, 2023 14:30:03 GMT
Not to be all PC, but why are they named as boys assortments? Because Hasbro, like a lot of toy companies still operate on the principle that some toys are for boys and some toys are for girls - very much a traditional gender roles split. So Transformers, being "war" toys, are in their institutional minds intended for boys and so are a "boys toy". Similar to the logic behind them leaving out Jem when they decided to have IDW launch a "Hasbro Comics Universe" - Transformers, M.A.S.K., Gi Joe, etc were all "boys toys" so fitted together in the minds of the higher-ups in a way that Jem didn't because Jem was a "girls" property and so it didn't make sense to them to market it to the same people as they were marketing Joe to. See also, when they had the bright idea of "if girls bought Nerf blasters we could double our money", instead of changing their marketing, they created an entire "Nerf Blasters For Girls" line, built around being pastel colours, and coming with odd accessories like little charms hanging off the blasters. (In my experience plenty of girls already bought Nerf blasters, but were concerned with the exact same things as the rest of us - is the range good, is it reasonably accurate, and when you pull the trigger does it fire a dart reliably). It is a rare kids toy company that works on the basis that "any gender can enjoy our toys", and Hasbro most definitely are not one of them, and I don't think Tomy are either. One of the few I can think of is the LEGO Group. Karl |
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