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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 2, 2018 7:26:35 GMT
Was: The Extra Catalogue Sub-Group Poll When I was setting up The Great Catalogue Sub-Group Poll I was aware that there were some issues arising that wouldn't fit into the structure that I devised that gave you one opportunity to vote for each toy once only. So every so often I want to do an extra poll. This won't be every week, but I'll try to do one starting every bank holiday Monday when a few people will be online. I haven't figured out quite all the subjects I want to cover yet but there's a few groups that are split up by years or faction that I thought it would be good to vote on as a whole instead of split up as we have done.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 2, 2018 7:28:21 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 2, 2018 7:32:04 GMT
You could have just done a 2-way poll. It will undermine the credibility of Hub polls if the winner of this poll is not one of the winners of the two lesser polls, so I must vote either Bluestreak or Trailbreaker, and I hope everyone else does likewise. Mind you, even if we all vote for someone we voted for in one of the lesser polls, that doesn't guarantee the victor here will be one of those victors, as their votes may be split while others remain solid. A spotlight will be shone on the arbitrariness of polls!
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 2, 2018 7:55:21 GMT
Not necessarily: it's mathematically possible for both vote winners to have their votes slashed by their voters preferring the toy they voted for in the other poll.
I'll be interested to see how this goes, it is a bit of an experiment to see if I do anymore!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 2, 2018 8:04:47 GMT
It's true. Sideswipe or Prowl could win if their 4 voters remain loyal while some of the 5 voters for each of Jazz, Mirage and Trailbreaker vote for the guy they voted for in the other poll.
But if there are no new voters, if any toy scores higher here than in the smaller polls, something has gone wrong.
Martin
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Post by Jim on Apr 2, 2018 14:08:26 GMT
well, we can only hope that sometimes the electorate realises they made a terrible mistake and choose to vote differently if given a second chance...
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 2, 2018 14:29:31 GMT
Martin is correct!
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Post by The Huff on Apr 2, 2018 14:34:50 GMT
Or, like me, couldn't decide between two the first time around and so made the choice thinking I could vote for the other in the next catalogue. And then to balance it out, vote for that one this time around to keep both the toy robots happy.
Mind you - another factor could be that we are voting for THE best and not our own favourite (My favourite toy from the Air Strike Patrol is Tailwind, even though he is probably the worst toy in that bunch).
Still deciding what to vote for here.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 2, 2018 15:27:49 GMT
Get voting Ratchet you bunch of monsters!!!!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 2, 2018 15:43:33 GMT
YOU CAN'T COMBINE THE CATALOGUES, PHIL!!!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Apr 2, 2018 16:27:10 GMT
YOU CAN'T COMBINE THE CATALOGUES, PHIL!!! -Ralph Phil, April Fools was yesterday!!!!!!!
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Post by legios on Apr 2, 2018 17:34:30 GMT
Like the current poll over in the main thread, everyone already knows my vote in this case. Thus I can confirm that I have duly voted for Ratchet.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 2, 2018 20:50:35 GMT
YOU CAN'T COMBINE THE CATALOGUES, PHIL!!! -Ralph Phil, April Fools was yesterday!!!!!!! Has Phil's played the entire Hub with an elaborate April Fool?? ?? Suddenly this poll makes sense! BAD PHIL! -Ralph
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Post by Dezzeh on Apr 2, 2018 20:59:31 GMT
Mirage for life - MMGA!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 2, 2018 21:01:13 GMT
He's a distant third for me - Ratchet, Sideswipe and the Mirage.
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 4, 2018 18:54:36 GMT
AAARRRGH!!! I did a 'User 3' and forgot to vote! Forgive me, Prowl!
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 4, 2018 19:30:01 GMT
It's OK! It's not a real poll!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 4, 2018 20:23:05 GMT
It's also still open to vote!
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 4, 2018 20:34:56 GMT
Not a real poll! Phil is flouting his own rules!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 4, 2018 20:44:38 GMT
It's an extra poll which is why it's in a different thread!
I'm having second thoughts about doing anymore extra polls!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 4, 2018 20:45:24 GMT
It's also still open to vote! He's voted now!
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 4, 2018 20:57:32 GMT
Never! Never!
-Ralph
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Post by Llama God on Apr 4, 2018 21:23:22 GMT
Well this one's easier. Ratchet. Because Ratchet.
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 4, 2018 21:51:42 GMT
So weird! Trailbreaker has one vote here, but seven on the other poll!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 4, 2018 21:55:31 GMT
For me my love of Sideswipe beats Trailbreaker. Llamagod has said he prefers Ratchet, but voted Trailbreaker for the 1984 US 5 set.
He may have been towing the party line cos Turnbull lives nearby though.
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Post by Jim on Apr 4, 2018 22:49:15 GMT
Same here, I put Sideswipe above Trailbreaker. I think they would still be my top 2 of this combined set though.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 5, 2018 5:09:33 GMT
I'm having second thoughts about doing anymore extra polls! Quite right, it's a silly poll. Prowl is beating Trailbreaker 3-1 here, whereas in the proper poll Trailbreaker is winning 7-4. Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 5, 2018 7:07:19 GMT
For me my love of Sideswipe beats Trailbreaker. Llamagod has said he prefers Ratchet, but voted Trailbreaker for the 1984 US 5 set. He may have been towing the party line cos Turnbull lives nearby though. Trailbreaker lives near Turnbull??? -Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 5, 2018 7:56:18 GMT
THE RESULTS OF THIS POLL ARE NOT LOGICAL!
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Post by Jim on Apr 5, 2018 10:14:35 GMT
The thing is, Prowl can beat Trailbreaker in this poll and it still be logical if the people who voted Trailbreaker in the smaller poll prefer any of the Transformers from the first smaller poll (I think both Phil and I chose Sideswipe over him for this poll, for example).
It's entirely possible for anyone who voted Trailbreaker to prefer all six cars from the first poll!
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