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Post by The Doctor on Nov 24, 2023 12:34:32 GMT
Been listening to The Marvels score as it was the first time in a while I came out the cinema humming the theme tune.
Glad folk on here told me it could be watched without seeing nth number of tv shows. I would have missed out otherwise. It was good fun! Even Samuel L Jackson looked like he was enjoying himself for once as Nick Fury.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 24, 2023 15:14:11 GMT
I can only think of one film where the longer version is better. Theatrical cuts tend to have better pacing. -Ralph Muppet Christmas Carol. |
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 24, 2023 15:17:35 GMT
Been listening to The Marvels score as it was the first time in a while I came out the cinema humming the theme tune. Glad folk on here told me it could be watched without seeing nth number of tv shows. I would have missed out otherwise. It was good fun! Even Samuel L Jackson looked like he was enjoying himself for once as Nick Fury. -Ralph He gave my favourite line of the film. Possibly of any film for a while. Spoiler
Cant remember the exact wording but something along the line of "Its okay it only Carol" as she slams into Kamalas front garden. Perfect delivery. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 24, 2023 17:30:27 GMT
1. Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One 2. John Wick: Chapter 4 3. The Three Musketeers: D'Artagnan 4. Oppenheimer 5. The Marvels 6. Napoleon (short version)7. The Equalizer 3 8. Babylon 9. A Haunting in Venice 10. The Hunger Games: The Ballad Of Songbirds & Snakes 11. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny 12. Sisu 13. Blue Beetle 14. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 15. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania 16. M3gan 17. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem 18. Haunted Mansion 19. Transformers: Rise of the Beasts 20. Dungeons & Dragons: Honour Among Thieves 21. Scream VI 22. The Creator 23. Expend4bles 24. Meg 2: The Trench 25. Hypnotic 26. The Flash 27. Shazam! Fury of the Gods 28. Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre (TV movie) 29. Plane 30. Renfield 31. The Enforcer 32. 65 As forewarned, Napoleon was a clumsily abridged version of a no doubt otherwise excellent historical epic. There were some serious time-jumps in the story where major characters and the country the characters are in and political state of European events switched without any explanation. But I don't know if anyone could do much better trying to cram Napoleon's entire adult life into 158 minutes, when you can make a film of that length about a single one of his battles without any padding. There were a few glaringly obviously made-up bits, but I can forgive them. The first half of the battle of Waterloo was unremarkable, but the visual depiction of its final act was done brilliantly given how little time it was given on the clock. "Prepare to receive cavalry!" sent a chill down my spine because I knew what was going to follow. ('Say "Form square," say "Form square"' I was muttering to myself.) "Form square!" "Form square!" And they do with the very definition of military precision, and from that moment Napoleon is beaten. I'm not patriotic, but I do like to see good training and military competence win the day as it deserves to do. Martin |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 24, 2023 17:37:30 GMT
The best thing I saw in the cinema today though was a trailer for a film coming out in December that may well knock Mission: Impossible and John Wick of the top spots in my league table, given how much I enjoyed Part 1.
Ridley Scott should have made Napoleon in French, and instead of abridging it he should have split it into two films, like so.
Martin
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 26, 2023 18:29:49 GMT
1. Avatar The Way of Water
2. Puss in Boots : Whatever this ones called.
3. Antman 3:
4. 65
5. The Whale
6. RRR
7. John Wick Chapter 4
8. Shazam 2
9. Creed 3
11. Dungeons and dragons
12. Super Mario Bros
13. Guardians Vol 3
14. Fast X
15. Spider-Man Across the Spiderverse
16. Transformers Rise of the Beast (Imax)
17. The Flash
18. Indiana Jones And The Dial of Destiny
19. Mission Impossible Dead reckoning Part 1
20. Elementals
21. Spider-Man Across the Spiderverse
22. The Meg 2.
23. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves (Disney 100)
24. Barbie
25. TMNT : Whatever this ones called
26. Bambi (Disney 100)
27. Cinderella (Disney 100)
28. Peter Pan (Disney 100)
29. Blue Beetle - fine.
30. One Hundred and One Dalmations (Disney 100)
31. Equalizer 3
32. Expendables 4
33. Dream Senario
34. The Marvels (Imax)
35. Wish (Superscreen) - Not blown away, but I had fun and its stuck with me since Friday. Largely because Im pretty sure Disney just made a film celebrating 100 years of Disney thats telling us its time to overthrow our corporate overlords. Which is a choice.
Its a lot more broadway musical than flim musical and I was surprised to find it wasnt Lin Manuel Miranda on writing duties as theres a definite Hamilton vibe to it.
36. Napoleon - I feel my opinion of this dropping fast. It was interesting and just about kept me engaged throughout, but its just weird. Technically its well filmed, but its also unpleasantly muddy and just off. Performances are strong, but everyone is playing unpleasant arses and lots of it is uncomfortable viewing. Is the script mocking Napoleon? I dont think so, but its failing spectacularly in not making me wonder if I was watching a spoof.
In fairness I think part of this is the result of the nearly 50 year old Phoenix playing a 25-30 year old for a large chunk of the movie along side a mid 30s Vannesa Kirby who is playing a character a year older than Napoleon.
The battle scenes at least are visually impressive (grey muddiness aside), but also lack any kind of emotional weight.
The story generally skips any moments that might be interesting. This at least may be improved by the extended edition. The problem is the theatrical cut is incoherent, but I dont want to spend more time with these characters than I already have so the (hopefully) more coherent extended edition isnt really appealing to me.
Also the screen X implementation was shit. I cant remember which film I saw in screen X last but the additional cameras synced up perfectly and it really added to the experience (might have been Spiderverse or M:I). This did not.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 26, 2023 19:26:24 GMT
Performances are strong, but everyone is playing unpleasant arses and lots of it is uncomfortable viewing. Is the script mocking Napoleon? I dont think so Many years ago, reading 'War and Peace' convinced me that Napoleon wasn't a man who shaped history and made the Napoleonic wars happen, but rather a man who filled a Napoleon-shaped gap that needed filling at the top of France's power structure at that point in time - the right sort of ambitious soldier in right place at right time, who succeeded in building a myth around him that made armies follow him to disaster. The film shows how he wasn't the one in power when it came to his private life, and how his wars were doomed - in Russia by the winter and in Europe by a superior military leader. Rupert Everett was a superb Wellington but didn't get enough screen time. I hope there's more of him, and more coverage of the Peninsular War in the Director's Cut. It didn't help Napoleon's dignity to have him keel over sideways when he died like Vizzini in 'The Princess Bride'. Martin |
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 26, 2023 21:56:22 GMT
And I dont have a problem with that interpretation in his private life and even the political stuff, but his military record is a different thing. His ego may have made him over reach in Russia but prior to that his record even allowing for his myth building shouldnt be down played. But at times it felt like he was channeling Mr Bean.
And I definitely wouldnt call Wellington a superior military leader. He never faced Wellington till Waterloo, by then he was massively out numbered hence his chosen strategy to divide and conquer which very likely might have worked if the weather had been in his favour.
Not to say Wellington couldnt have beat him in a straight fight, but he never got the chance. And the numbers were so against Napoleon, he probably would have lost sooner than later even if he won at Waterloo.
I did enjoy Everetts Wellington, but I cant imagine we'll see much more of him as Napoleon wasnt that involved with the Peninsualr war. I wouldnt object to a Wellington spin off covering that period though.
Also agreed on the spoiler.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 27, 2023 6:18:30 GMT
And I definitely wouldnt call Wellington a superior military leader. He never faced Wellington till Waterloo, by then he was massively out numbered I don't mean Wellington was necessarily superior in an evenly matched battle scenario, but he was superior in being more realistic in the battles he picked to fight, and when forced to fight a battle against his choosing he knew how to make his men fight defensively and inflict terrible losses on the attackers. Napoleon engaged in wars he should have know he couldn't win, but he believed his own propaganda. Maybe the stuff about his private life was relevant because it shed a light on the man who allowed himself to believe he could actually conquer Russia in 1812 and Europe in 1815. Yeah, true that the Peninsular War isn't likely to feature in a film on Napoleon, other than on a map, but it would have given a reason to acknowledge the existence of Napoleon's older brother Joseph in the film. Martin |
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Post by legios on Dec 3, 2023 19:30:04 GMT
1. Shin Kamen Rider.
2. Tenet
3. No One Will Save You
4. Glass Onion
5. Mobile Suit Gundam: Cucruz Doans Island
6. Transformers: Rise of the Beasts: Eh. It was...ok...Fairly by the numbers, but reasonably competently put together for the most part. Kinda lost interest partway through the last reel - nothing wrong with it, but it is literally the same "bad guys take the magic rock to summon the Tower of Evil which will lead to the Earth's Destruction and the heroes must kill their way through the mooks to kill the main bad guy and break the magic before it summons the End of The World" sctick from the second, third and fifth movies again so...yeah...my investment wasn't high. But as a fiver's rental on a Sunday evening I've done worse.
7. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
8. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantamania.
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Post by legios on Dec 3, 2023 19:34:41 GMT
Trying to decide if Tokusatsu spin-off movies belong in this chart - a lot of them are way less than feature length, but they do get cinema runs... On the upside though if I do include them it'll break the trend trend of all the Superhero films being at the bottom of the stack...
Part of me wants to put Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack on this list, but it feels almost like cheating - this is the first year it has been readily available on a narrowcast/streaming medium in this country, but it is close to two decades since I saw it for the first time so... Yeah...
Karl
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 15, 2023 19:47:12 GMT
1. Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One
2. John Wick: Chapter 4
3. The Three Musketeers Part I: D'Artagnan
4. The Three Musketeers Part II: Milady
5. Oppenheimer
6. The Marvels
7. Napoleon
8. The Equalizer 3
9. Babylon
10. A Haunting in Venice
11. The Hunger Games: The Ballad Of Songbirds & Snakes
12. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
13. Sisu
14. Blue Beetle
15. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3
16. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
17. M3gan
18. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem
19. Haunted Mansion
20. Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
21. Dungeons & Dragons: Honour Among Thieves
22. Scream VI
23. The Creator
24. Expend4bles
25. Meg 2: The Trench
26. Hypnotic
27. The Flash
28. Shazam! Fury of the Gods
29. Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre (TV movie)
30. Plane
31. Renfield
32. The Enforcer
33. 65
Martin
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Post by Benn on Dec 15, 2023 23:31:06 GMT
1. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem
2. 23 Seconds To Eternity
3. Godzilla: Minus One
Absolute gold. I recommend it wholeheartedly. It will make you feel things.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 17, 2023 17:28:22 GMT
1. Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One
2. John Wick: Chapter 4
3. The Three Musketeers Part I: D'Artagnan
4. The Three Musketeers Part II: Milady
5. Oppenheimer
6. The Marvels
7. Godzilla Minus One
8. Napoleon
9. The Equalizer 3
10. Babylon
11. A Haunting in Venice
12. The Hunger Games: The Ballad Of Songbirds & Snakes
13. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
14. Sisu
15. Blue Beetle
16. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3
17. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
18. M3gan
19. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem
20. Haunted Mansion
21. Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
22. Dungeons & Dragons: Honour Among Thieves
23. Scream VI
24. The Creator
25. Expend4bles
26. Meg 2: The Trench
27. Hypnotic
28. The Flash
29. Shazam! Fury of the Gods
30. Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre (TV movie)
31. Plane
32. Renfield
33. The Enforcer
34. 65
Godzilla Minus One is a very good film. Not the best foreign language film to reach UK cinemas this week (that would be Milady), but very good nonetheless.
The Godzilla x Kong trailer, however, looks awful.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 17, 2023 20:08:42 GMT
Godzilla Minus One was incredible. I have no idea how that amount of spectacle was done on such a tiny budget.
I agree with Martin about the Godzilla x Kong trailer that was on before it.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 17, 2023 21:38:58 GMT
This is encouraging. I read about it in SFX this month, thought it sounded good. I watched the 2014 Godzilla on Netflix recently and enjoyed that.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 17, 2023 22:25:57 GMT
WAIT A MINUTE.
Has Martin 'Big Buff Cinema Man' McVay not seen BARBIE??!!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 17, 2023 23:15:37 GMT
Clearly not Kenough if true!
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 17, 2023 23:34:04 GMT
WAIT A MINUTE. Has Martin 'Big Buff Cinema Man' McVay not seen BARBIE??!! -Ralph He's waiting on getting the Blu-ray steelbook. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 18, 2023 4:54:56 GMT
There are many films I have not seen.
Martinheimer
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 18, 2023 6:54:00 GMT
Impossible.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 18, 2023 11:43:26 GMT
There are many films I have not seen. Martinheimer But..but.. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 18, 2023 11:44:08 GMT
WAIT A MINUTE. Has Martin 'Big Buff Cinema Man' McVay not seen BARBIE??!! -Ralph He's waiting on getting the Blu-ray steelbook. Sold out everywhere on pre-orders! -Ralph |
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 18, 2023 13:05:55 GMT
Coo. Methinks Martin just avoided a True Friending there.
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Post by Bogatan on Dec 18, 2023 14:08:02 GMT
I am the Anti-Martin.
I have not seen Oppenheimer.
Saw Godzilla Minus One. Utterly stunned. I knew nothing about it going in. But I had enjoyed seeing Shin at TFN with Ed, Benn and others and Eds excitment about Minus One was enough for me to focus on seeing it once I saw it was showing locally.
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 18, 2023 14:41:44 GMT
Is Shin connected to Minus One? Do I need to see that one first?
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 18, 2023 14:45:50 GMT
No and no.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 18, 2023 15:06:27 GMT
Roger that!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 18, 2023 16:41:16 GMT
They were just all wearing cut-off-below-the-knee trousers at TFN.
Martin
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 18, 2023 21:02:49 GMT
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