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Post by Philip Ayres on May 6, 2024 11:42:01 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on May 7, 2024 17:59:53 GMT
That's not Breakdown, Breakdown is the white Stunticon that looks like a Sideswipe car car.
Silly Big Phil.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 7, 2024 21:55:28 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on May 7, 2024 22:09:36 GMT
Oh no, tfWiki is getting its Breakdowns muddled up now!
It's a good job I'm here to sort it all out.
BREAKDOWN: WHITE SIDESWIPEY STUNTICON.
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Post by The Doctor on May 7, 2024 22:09:43 GMT
Yes, Phil, tell us why Breakdown shouldn't always be a white car.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on May 7, 2024 22:23:05 GMT
And an Autobot!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 12, 2024 11:31:42 GMT
Don't encourage him, he's probably already got a powerpoint presentation.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on May 12, 2024 18:33:44 GMT
Now you're giving him ideas too!!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on May 12, 2024 18:34:40 GMT
No, wait. If we suggest he makes a comprehensive PowetPoint presentation for every anomaly he has Mad Theories about we could tie him up for years and avoid new ones!
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 12, 2024 19:36:04 GMT
Oh no, tfWiki is getting its Breakdowns muddled up now! It's a good job I'm here to sort it all out. BREAKDOWN: WHITE SIDESWIPEY STUNTICON. I am still bitter at the lack of a CW Sdeswipe from Breakdown <Glares at RiD2015>
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Post by The Doctor on May 12, 2024 19:57:24 GMT
Ok, you'll need to explain this one.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 12, 2024 20:22:57 GMT
They didn't do Sideswipe in CW because he isn't one of the big characters who they can have multiple versions of at the same time and while CW was happening there was a Sideswipe in RiD2015
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Post by Benn on May 12, 2024 21:36:27 GMT
But there was a Breakdown in both? So Breakdown is a bigger character than Sideswipe?
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Post by Shockprowl on May 12, 2024 21:38:48 GMT
But there was a Breakdown in both? So Breakdown is a bigger character than Sideswipe? What an interesting way to break down this question.
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Post by Toph on May 13, 2024 4:04:29 GMT
TFP Breakdown wasn't in NuRiD. He died in Prime.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 13, 2024 6:29:49 GMT
So by the time CW came around there wasn't a Breakdown in the more kiddy line
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Post by Benn on May 13, 2024 8:16:04 GMT
But there were Stunticons in NuRID?
Was there not a Stunticon Breakdown?
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 13, 2024 10:26:48 GMT
But there were Stunticons in NuRID? Was there not a Stunticon Breakdown? NuRiD Stunticons were 2017, after Combiner Wars had finished tfwiki.net/wiki/Menasor_(RID)#ToysNo, the set did not have a Breakdown but did have Menasor, Motormaster and Dragstrip. Whereas Sideswipe is in all 3 years of RiD2015 and doesn't make a Generations appearance at all in that time. Optimus, Bumblebee, Starscream, Soundwave and Windblade all have versions of themselves in Generations and RiD2015. Lady Jet was considered a big character!
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Post by The Doctor on May 13, 2024 10:26:53 GMT
So by the time CW came around there wasn't a Breakdown in the more kiddy line And..? -Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 13, 2024 10:29:30 GMT
So by the time CW came around there wasn't a Breakdown in the more kiddy line And..? -Ralph ... which meant CW could do a Breakdown cos the more minor character name wasn't being used elsewhere
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Post by The Doctor on May 13, 2024 11:17:50 GMT
I see what you mean but it would appear there are different teams on the 'collector' lines and the 'kiddy' lines so it may not have been obvious internally.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 13, 2024 11:25:42 GMT
I'm recalling it being said at the time, though not exactly where.
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Post by Bogatan on May 13, 2024 13:47:47 GMT
Pretty sure it was regularly mentioned in botcon panels
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Post by Toph on May 13, 2024 16:41:43 GMT
I do think canon G1 Subgroup character in the dedicated G1 Subgroup line trump the "only one appearance" rule. Can you imagine them skipping Chromedome in TR because he was used in nurid? However, Sideswipe was never a combiner, so no reason for him to be in CW while he's also in nurid. Even if TFP Breakdown was alive and kicking and had a nurid toy on the shelf (keep in mind he didn't even get a significant toy in the west, during TFP), I still think that he'd be in CW.
Though they may have replaced him with a g1 colored Offroad initially instead of Wildrider.
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