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Post by Kingoji on Oct 12, 2009 18:08:17 GMT
^Mindtaking! OOOOoooooOOOO!
Ravage vs humans = mineshaft.
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Post by chrisl on Oct 12, 2009 18:25:06 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 12, 2009 20:01:02 GMT
WOW.
-Ralph
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Post by dinogrrl on Oct 13, 2009 3:16:08 GMT
Well, Comics Continuum has two more pages of preview! Why, I don't know, but he actually gets out of bed for them! Oo er. www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0910/12/idwfirsts.htmIt's way down the bottom of the page too, so scroll hard, grasshopper. Oh, and I just noticed they say that AHM #16 is 32 pages, which is rather more than the last three. Maybe these stories are longer, given that they're acting as setup for the ongoing and Bumblebee series? |
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Post by blueshift on Oct 13, 2009 6:27:50 GMT
Now now, the Spike story to me looks like it is supposed to be a comedy story, and we find out that big hero Spike is in a body cast for some banal reason, not from fighting Ravage  |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2009 9:37:11 GMT
32 pages is the size of a US comic book inc ads and front cover.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 13, 2009 10:04:27 GMT
actually 32 pages is the interior page count, tis 36 pages that is the standard us page count all in.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2009 15:44:11 GMT
AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!
May I be put in front of the staple gun firing squad for my comic-fu brain fart.
-Ralph
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Post by dinogrrl on Oct 14, 2009 4:35:50 GMT
No worries, apparently I can't bloody count either. Had to pick up a previous issue and count the sodding pages to remind myself.
As you were!
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Post by grahamthomson on Oct 14, 2009 8:11:59 GMT
Of course, being in a full body cast, Spike will have a catheter inserted.
And any healthcare professional, no matter how much their buttons stretch across their cleavage, would never ever encourage arousal as it would be VIOLENTLY, URETHRA-SHREDDINGLY PAINFUL!!
Not that I would know, you understand.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 17:49:18 GMT
IDW's TF comics are slowly turning into a Dreamwave abomination!
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 14, 2009 18:06:50 GMT
Just read the first story. Woeful.
-Ralph
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Post by karla on Oct 14, 2009 20:25:31 GMT
spike witwicky, the new star of "some mothers do 'ave 'em"
lolz at nurses
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 14, 2009 21:05:56 GMT
The first story would have worked if done in a satirical manner but alas I think we're meant to take it seriously.
The Bumblebee story isn't too bad, though the art/colours overshadow the writing greatly. Pretty readable though. Can't say I'm enthused by the new direction it suggests, though it works in its own right. Not a million miles from the feel of early Marvel TF Annual tales.
I am, however, getting over a nasty bug so mood is not the best. These are initial impressions. I'll likely re-assess when feeling myself more.
-Ralph
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Post by dinogrrl on Oct 15, 2009 1:30:38 GMT
Hmm, maybe Mike Costa was intending satirical and just sucks at it? Still, neither option bodes well for the ongoing.
The Bumblebee story was my last hope for a good miniseries, but your comments also don't bode well. What direction is this you're noting? I won't be able to pick up my copy till Friday, and I still need to decide whether I want to pre-order the Bumblebee mini. Do you think it would be worth the money based on this story?
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Post by blueshift on Oct 15, 2009 8:09:12 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 15, 2009 9:49:45 GMT
I think it's meant to be, but it doesn't work. It also lacks enough story for 11 pages. The Bumblebee story implies the Autobots are now in hiding while Nasty Humans hunt and kill them. ZZZZZZZZZZZ who are too thick to notice one of them (Bumblebee) is clearly trying to help.
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Post by grahamthomson on Oct 15, 2009 9:59:30 GMT
You know, I was all relaxing my shoulders ready for the new "ongoing" Transformers comic. Fresh start and all that.
But if this is the lead in then... then... I'm gonna feel all tense again.
I am excited for the Wreckers series though!
And, wishful thinking I know, but I'd love to see another "Evolutions" series next year. I'd even settle for a follow-up to "B.O.T."!
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 15, 2009 10:04:59 GMT
My enthusiasm for Wreckers remains undiminished.
Though much of the 'coda' material (Kup and Prowl story excepted) has been set-up, set-up, set-up rather like a lot of the Furman stuff annoyingly. The ongoing now gets just one issue to impress me rather than one full story arc. If #1 turns out just to be more set-up I will scream.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Oct 15, 2009 11:32:31 GMT
So, the Bumblebee story is basically a "trying to protect a world that hates and fears us" setup. Not hackneyed and fairly played out at all then.... Hmm. I am starting to waver on how much I am interested in the on-going. It doesn't sound like its basic premise is going to interest me that much at the moment. I will see how it plays out in practice once issue one comes out. Karl |
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Post by Mark_Stevenson on Oct 15, 2009 22:52:51 GMT
The Bumblebee story is OK, if somewhat lacking in any form of originality. The art's pleasantly different (same guy who did the Starscream story, right?) and the last line is a nice touch. The Spike 'story' is unmitigated arse. How apt that the lead character be bound head to toe in plaster, incapable of any form of movement - exactly like the story he stars in! Poor Ravage deserved better...
Mx
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Post by dinogrrl on Oct 16, 2009 3:57:02 GMT
I decided to spoiler up some of my review, just in case. So I managed to pick up my copy this evening after all, and I have to say both stories are quite boring little nothings. Spike-O-Rama: I have to think that parts of the Spike story were meant to be humorous, but fell flat. The 'off panel Ravage defeat' thing has to be some sort of dig at fan complaints concerning McCarthy's habit of grand denouements happening off stage. Either that or it's meant to indicate that Spike lied about winning and Ravage actually got away, hard to tell which. Oh look, it's the revenge of the McCarthy style of obscure-the-crap-out-of-every-plot-point. Guh. Even if parts of this story were meant to be funny, Costa fell short into cheese-land. If it was meant to be serious, it's even worse. We've had one okay story and one poor story from Costa, and given the direction they're pointing the franchise in for the ongoing, it doesn't look great. I'll watch vicariously through those who do buy it, but I'm not expecting much. Bumble-Cannon: The Bumblebee story was the one I was looking forward to most. And I almost liked it less than the Spike one. Bee's personality is seemingly back to G1 Cartoon Kiddie Interest Character, as opposed to his more hard-nosed version in the -Ations. It also introduces another odd little discontinuity in the form of him claiming that humans have always looked kindly upon him. Er, which humans, exactly? The grand total of three whom you knew so far in IDWverse? It's like this story ignored the -Ations completely and now the backstory behind AHM is just the old cartoon. I didn't even feel any sympathy for Bumblebee, as the whole expressing horror that the humans were angry and going about killing off robots generated a 'Well, DUH, what did you expect, dumbass' reaction from me. I found the characterizations to be weak as water and I'm glad I decided not to preorder the mini. I still think Chee's art looks far better without colors. I wouldn't like it for an entire mini as is. Something about the coloring job bothers me. So, the whole schmozzle comes to an end with two of the most lackluster stories out of the CODA lot, leading into a dubious looking ongoing and 'eh' seeming Bee mini. Roche January can't come fast enough. |
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 19, 2009 11:45:48 GMT
Wow, the Spike story was naff, wasn't it?
The Bumblebee one is okay, but it doesn't seem to follow from AHM. It seems to follow from a more interesting story where multiple cities are evacuated and the Decepticons are still around hitting refugee camps - basically, it reads like a G2 story where people still hate Autobots, or a possible prequel to Twilight's Last Gleaming.
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Post by primenova on Oct 19, 2009 14:47:56 GMT
I've bid on ebay for the whole set #13-16 [so £2 each]
But if you look at DW & IDW.
Stories by Simon Furman V stuff by others - what did we like.
DW - War Within ~ G1/Micromaster
IDW - ongoing + spotlights upto pre AHM ~ Megatron Origin/AHM
Hopefully Simon must be on story editor duties. He worked setting everything up & would hate to see it all disappear. Could Simon be doing lettering? That Chris who writes the Movie stuff was a IDW letter. Richard Starking [editor/writer for Transformers UK] is famous for lettering.
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Post by Dave on Oct 20, 2009 11:29:54 GMT
Well that's pretty much killed my interest in the ongoing. The interview didn't help either - what with mentioning one of the main characters focussed on will be that Witwicky prick.
Might pick up the first issue out of curiosity but will be judging the series from afar, maybe picking up the trades if it looks good.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 20, 2009 12:39:51 GMT
I've just realised:
In Spike's story, the anti-TF crew is a unit under his command and they all use laser guns.
In Bumblebee's story, they're a battalion, Spike is absent, and they use conventional arms.
Issue 16 contradicts ITSELF.
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Post by legios on Oct 20, 2009 18:18:03 GMT
I've just realised: In Spike's story, the anti-TF crew is a unit under his command and they all use laser guns. In Bumblebee's story, they're a battalion, Spike is absent, and they use conventional arms. Issue 16 contradicts ITSELF. Not necessarily. Now, bear in mind I haven't read it but there is no reason in theory that Spike's unit couldn't be a company/platoon/fireteam or whatever that is a component part of a larger battallion - and a unit the size of a batallion might not be completely homogenous in its armaments - especially if the energy weapons are newer and only available in limited numbers. (As I say, I haven't actually read the issue so this is purely a theoretical construct). Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 20, 2009 20:44:04 GMT
Looking at AHM #13-16*, I feel that overall it's completely failed to get me enthused about the ongoing. If anything, it's lessened my interest dramatically. Hasn't really given me any sense of cohesion or building towards something. The most successful stories were the Kup/Prowl one and the Starscream one. The former gets me very interested in the Wreckers series though. There were also six other stories, which veered from readable but forgettable to 'where was the story in that?'
Twelve Earth pounds for 2 good stories and 6 'meh' stories does leave me feeling rather short-changed.
IDW are an immensely frustrating company. The originated material veers wildly in quality and reprint material is either printed in 'looks like it was produced yesterday' quality or 'and they're charging full price for that?'
Roll on The Last Stand of the Wreckers. And keep the reprints coming, though better quality control on those please. The ongoing...I'll give it an issue. I realy want it to be good. I want to come on here and rave about how fantastic it is. But if it's light on story, I'll stick to the side stories. It'll be coming off the back of 4 years worth of material, so there's no excuse for not much happening. Let's not have another Infiltration #0.
We shall see.
-Ralph
*Call me a stickler, but I'm not calling it 'Coda'. The issues have no such banner on them.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 20, 2009 21:43:01 GMT
there is no reason in theory that Spike's unit couldn't be a company/platoon/fireteam or whatever that is a component part of a larger battallion That'd make logical sense. Unfortunately, the Spike story does make out that his is the only unit (and if it's not, the energy weapons should really be shared out instead of kept in his). It's possible the unit did so well it was turned into a battalion, except the Bumblebee story is clearly taking place earlier (the ruins aren't being repaired like they are in Spike's story). Looking at AHM #13-16*, I feel that overall it's completely failed to get me enthused about the ongoing. If anything, it's lessened my interest dramatically. I have to agree. There's only four stories I feel like I might want to reread, and if push comes to shove I'd only keep #15 (I already binned #14). I'm no longer interested in the ongoing. Luckily for me, Wreckers and non-G1 miniseries mean I've got other options to go for! |
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Post by dinogrrl on Oct 21, 2009 2:31:31 GMT
I'll only be keeping #15 as well. And unfortunately, Roche's awesomeness did not lead to a sales spike for that issue:
AHM 13 - 11,884
AHM 14 - 11,724
AHM 15 - 11,634
Slowly dropping down. 16 will likely be less again. Be interesting to see what the ongoing will settle out at.
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Surely, surely it is tongue-in-cheek?
