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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 4, 2022 15:54:23 GMT
Enjoyed most of season 7. Not a fan of most of seasons 1 and 2. I'd shorten TNG's run by a year, but at the other end.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 4, 2022 16:02:11 GMT
Descent II Pantasms Dark Page Parallels Masks Eye of the Beholder Genesis All Good Things Like all of these. Also very fond of The Pegasus and Emergence. There was a consecutive poor run of three from Journey's End through Firstborn to Bloodlines, but then it picked up again for the final four (counting AGT as two). Martin |
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Post by Jim on Nov 4, 2022 23:02:25 GMT
For me, s7 is the season of Parallels, Lower Decks, Preemptive Strike, and All Good Things.
Descent falls a bit flat for me. There are elements of it I love, but also bits that strike me as really misconceived, and I will always think the emotion chip as an idea undermined what made Data interesting.
I don’t have the same hate for Masks that a lot of people have, and there was a fun homage to it in Lower Decks recently.
I would take s1 over s7 though. S1’s clunkers come from a show finding its feet and trying stuff out rather than tiredness. Thankfully though we don’t have to make that choice!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 5, 2022 14:32:19 GMT
Yeah, the emotion chip is the quick fix and a cheat. You want Data to get there on his own as it were.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 5, 2022 20:14:47 GMT
Also goes against the conceit that while Data didn't think he had emotions, he clearly did. Part of the charm of the character.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Nov 6, 2022 16:18:32 GMT
Yeah, it breaks the sensible character arc for Data - which should have been to realise that he is _different_ to humans, not lacking in comparison to them. That his experience of the world is informed by his nature, and their's by their's. It is all a part of the trend of seeing Data as "an imitation of humanity" instead of a sapient form of life in his own right. (The same trend is how we get to the otherwise nonsensical "I am incredibly long-lived compared to humanity, and this is a moral wrong so you must kill me Picard" bunk of Picard S1).
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Post by Jim on Nov 6, 2022 17:02:10 GMT
Exactly!
That’s how Data had been written for the most part through the first six seasons. Largely it was only alluded to but I always read the end of Tin Man as Deanna suggesting that though she couldn’t pick up the emotion from him empathically, it was there.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 15, 2022 9:59:59 GMT
I have found myself tuning into shitty low res screenings of TNG S1 on Council TV even though at a touch of a button I can access better copies on Netflix or go over to the shelf where the blu rays are.
I have no idea why.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 15, 2022 18:54:12 GMT
I think it's that notion lingering that it's one of your special programmes on proper telly. If the Beeb stuck some Tom Baker repeats on BBC 2 we'd all be glued to them, even though we've seen the stories inside out and back to front.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 15, 2022 20:18:25 GMT
You are probably right. Fond memories of TNG on BBC2 at 6pm Wednesdays back in the day.
I was gutted when Forces TV were showing old WHO but I couldn't get the channel on my telly.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 15, 2022 21:21:51 GMT
I reckon I still have off air VHS recordings of those BBC2 TNG screenings in my parents' loft. It was only DS9 I bought the CIC videos for.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 15, 2022 21:24:19 GMT
I have immense nostalgia for the CIC videos. Two episodes a tape!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 15, 2022 21:33:04 GMT
Imagine if life was still like that. Two foot of shelf space per season of a TV show. Heavens.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 15, 2022 21:59:05 GMT
Individual numbering per cassette. Putting them on a shelf in order. Good times.
89 tapes for TNG!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 15, 2022 22:19:48 GMT
Oh yes. Putting things in order on a shelf... Bliss. Lining up all the edges...
VHS tapes were lovely for that. The DVD case's inability to stand up by itself was one of the early noughties great disappointments.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 15, 2022 22:56:22 GMT
They were poo and lacked the aesthetic value of the cassettes.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 17, 2022 20:10:23 GMT
You guys know my heart.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 20, 2022 12:43:01 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Nov 20, 2022 16:50:29 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 21, 2022 0:49:28 GMT
HO HO HO.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 6, 2022 7:42:58 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 9, 2022 13:46:58 GMT
Oh bloody hell.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 9, 2022 14:48:19 GMT
Watching TNG S2 on Council TV and being reminded how good most of it is. Fan Dogma always screams the show didn't get good until S3. Nonsense.
S1 is all over the place but has some gems and an amiable 'trying hard' feel to it but S2 is where consistency comes in. Tonally more focussed, changes to the Bridge set and Worf's make-up also help. It's also when Spiner's portral of Data settles down to what we know and love. Worf being in security and Geordi in engineering does wonders for those characters. This is also when the Geordi/Data friendship really kicks in.
Only horrible Dr Pulaski consistently being space racist to Data brings the show down.
S3 is when I think it evolves from a very good show to classic TV (arguably until S6) but for me the proceeding year is great...except for Spaceship Ireland. We don't talk about that.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 27, 2022 8:34:16 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 27, 2022 10:24:43 GMT
Oh that has been doing the rounds for a long time. Also featured on some merch.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 29, 2022 18:53:22 GMT
TNG Booby Trap on Council TV! FAB episode!
Picard has just taken the con.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 29, 2022 19:32:54 GMT
*ship veers round space rocks*
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 3, 2023 13:21:32 GMT
30th anniversary of DS9 today. I feel ancient.
-Ralph
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Post by Cullen on Jan 3, 2023 19:03:20 GMT
Finished my DS9 rewatch a few months ago. It was a slog getting through all the early Bajoran episodes but from series 4 onwards it just kept getting better.
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 3, 2023 19:11:41 GMT
I always felt that way, but on more recent rewatches have enjoyed the little things in those episodes that get picked up later on.
Still a bit of a slog in places though.
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