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Post by legios on Aug 18, 2011 19:02:08 GMT
Just saw last week's Torchwood. That is more like where this needed to go. The problem is that it needed to be here several episodes ago in all honesty.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 18, 2011 21:02:54 GMT
And this week the plot advanced nowhere. And next week episode looks more more navel gazing.
The Barrowman continues to be a minor guest star in his own show.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Aug 18, 2011 21:12:17 GMT
The Barrowman continues to be a minor guest star in his own show. -Ralph They also seem to be turning him into Batman with his appearance-and-disappearance shtick. When does he get a utility belt? (After all, he already has braces to go with it). I think they may have been going for suspense at points here, unfortunately it felt more like dragging things out. Last weeks episode should have been where things started to roll downhill at ever-increasing pace... instead we appear to have stopped for an amble again. T'is very frustrating, every time it shows some potential it goes and shoots itself in an appendage again immediately afterwards. Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 18, 2011 21:16:15 GMT
I had the pc's clock in front of me. Gwen showed up at 16 mins in, Jack at 21.
But ERNIE HUDSON !!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 18, 2011 21:35:09 GMT
He did bring some joy, yes.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 18, 2011 21:58:48 GMT
Indeed he did, but yeah it's slowed right down again.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 19, 2011 6:49:51 GMT
Ernie Hudson made some of the scenes of the latest episode bearable.
Martin
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Post by legios on Aug 20, 2011 21:01:59 GMT
Ernie Hudson also put a finger on one of the problems that this mini-series has. Either the plan behind all this is one put together by cool and unsympathetic minds immeasurably superior to our own - in which case neither the characters nor the audience can ever hope to understand it and all of this rubbish investigation stuff is utterly pointless and a waste of the audiences time - or the plan is one comprehensible by mere human beings , in which case I would like to think that there would be some hint of sense to events by now.
Also, they really need to change Jack Harkness' outfit. Not because it is bad but because it is completely unsuited to the tone of the series. In Doctor Who it was appropriate as a piece of whimsy in a sometimes whimsical show, and Torchwood 1.0 maintained a thin vein of whimsy which allowed the character to get away with it. But there is no whimsy in Torchwood 3.0, there is no smiling in Torchwood 3.0, there is no fun in Torchwood 3.0.
But then, I found myself nodding in agreement with Rex's comment that "there is no Torchwood, it is just a label to stick on us", for whatever that says.......
Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 23, 2011 19:22:49 GMT
Taff totty has a double in Holby City!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2011 20:36:26 GMT
Who had this episode in the "When do we see Barrowman's bottom" sweepstake?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 25, 2011 20:57:07 GMT
Like last week, I only half-watched this one.
But next week, John de Lancie!
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2011 21:00:13 GMT
Must watch TV if he's in it.
Was woman at the end Nana Visitor?
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 25, 2011 21:32:20 GMT
I think it was she But I ended up channel hopping as bored this week me And felt this episode was not bopping.
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Post by blueshift on Aug 25, 2011 21:47:39 GMT
This series has been pretty swell, But tonight I went 'what the hell?' Good pacing this did lack, That's NOT how you do a pivotal flashback!!
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Post by legios on Aug 25, 2011 22:27:00 GMT
From Torchwood I did take an absence leave for a new videogame was up my sleeve
Tomorrow I shall by iPlayer perceive that which tonight my gaze did leave.
Karl
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 26, 2011 12:11:33 GMT
This new Torchwood does not take my fancy, but at least next episode we get John DeLancie.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 26, 2011 18:19:36 GMT
Why am I still watching this? I have to confess this series has been mostly a miss.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 26, 2011 19:01:27 GMT
I have strong feelings about the episode this week Some elements are strong but others odd or weak.
I found the placing odd as hell, then again it worked Angel.
Shown first it could have made a great issue zero letting yanks properly meet the shows bit part hero.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 29, 2011 20:39:45 GMT
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Post by legios on Aug 31, 2011 20:04:13 GMT
Hmm. Finally got around to watching episode seven. I think the real feat that the evil Triangle folk have managed is to steal the plot from the series and hide it away somewhere. We are about three-quarters of the way through and very little has happened very slowly. The actual plot of (not) Torchwood doing things isn't really much more than two and a half episodes worth, and the series doesn't seem to want to engage with any of the issues which it half-raises leaving a big gaping void in the series.
Karl
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 1, 2011 20:32:50 GMT
Top line of the series:
"So why the hell- bollocks. Start again. Any chance of a drink?"
- Gwen Cooper
This, plus the fact that John de Lancie rules the screen, makes the first half of episode 8 the best half-episode of the series so far.
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 1, 2011 21:01:58 GMT
John De Lancie: we are not worthy.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 2, 2011 13:02:42 GMT
John DeLancie was great.
Series has been a colossal letdown after Children of earth.
Andy
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Post by Dave on Sept 2, 2011 13:22:29 GMT
Indeed. Had it been 5 episodes (like Children of Earth) I think it would work a lot better. As it is things are too drawn out and there are a lot of episodes where not much has happened.
In other news I have a new iThing but haven't been able to bring myself to try the Tie-in app again.
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 2, 2011 14:54:15 GMT
So with two or is it three episodes left it does seem as though much of the messing around in episodes 2-4 served no purpose beyond what occurred in those episodes.
I still think last weeks episode or at least a version of the flashback stuff should have been used for episode one. It serves as the only real introduction to Jack and would have established some foreshadowing of what would come. The present day stuff could have been stuck on the back end of the episode before and left that episode and last nights as a really strong 2 parter. Alas we seem stuck with alternating between action packed episodes and filler.
Talking about last weeks episode, am I the only one who is getting slightly fed up with gay Jack?
He wasn't gay in Doctor Who, gender or even species didn't come in to it and he was entertaining. I probably wouldn't care but Jack in Torchwood is just slightly annoying, like an angsty teen.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 2, 2011 17:36:32 GMT
S4 Jack is lacking in fun, His character feels done. -Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 2, 2011 18:19:20 GMT
I want to see Shapiro: CIA the series.
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Post by legios on Sept 2, 2011 21:57:44 GMT
It is starting to feel like there is a bit of stunt-casting going on in the back half of Miracle Day. But when it gives us Delancie turning a character whose entire description is "arrogant and insults people" into one of the most memorable folk to appear in the series at all I am quite prepared to forgive it.
I've given up any hope that this is going anywhere, in terms of an explanation for what is going on, why it is happening and what the resolution is, more developed than "a Wizard did it". I just wish we could move a little faster towards the nonsense please.
Sadly, "Children of Earth" did better at selling the idea of society breaking down under stress in a couple of short scenes than "Miracle Day" has managed so far, and "Miracle Day" has had plenty of running time with literally nothing of consequence happening that they could have used to do that instead.....
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 9, 2011 18:51:22 GMT
Episode 9 was actually pretty watchable. It's given up all pretence at doing an interesting story about 'what would happen if no-one died?' but as a slice of daft nonsense that instalment was alright.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 9, 2011 23:47:37 GMT
Enjoyable enough, but we could have done with this amount of story movement several episodes ago.
Still DeLancie in it again.
Andy
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