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Post by Pinwig on Sept 25, 2019 20:31:52 GMT
It's because we care, Shockprowl. We need to keep an eye on you for your own safety. Think of us as a pretender shell wrapped around you.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 25, 2019 20:36:34 GMT
It's because we care, Shockprowl. We need to keep an eye on you for your own safety. Think of us as a pretender shell wrapped around you. And think of us as a kindly Headmaster, inserting ourselves into your gaping neckhole and acting as your new, better, brain. |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 25, 2019 20:45:44 GMT
Jesus I read that as in school headmaster for a second there.
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 20:46:42 GMT
concerned how wrong Shockprowl is about this film Imagine... Imagine not having seen much of series one or almost any of series two as a child, when you should have. Imagine then, as a 'grown-up', watching all of series one, all of series two, again and again and again, with Small People. Beings who are now the child you used to be, that you are now responsible for. Together, you grow accustomed to the characters, the dynamic, as clumsy as it was sometimes. You grow accustomed to the cheesy fun... relive your nostalgia... And it works. Because, at the end of the road, it is GOOD FUN.But in the back of your mind... Lurks a blackness. Because you know what they're going to say... "What's after series two?", they ask... what is after series two.... A chill runs through you. A chill that awakens a long stifled scream. A REALISATION. Did you like it? When you saw it as a child? Did you... did you... look what they did... No... They... They killed everyone... Changed everything. AND NOT FOR THE BETTER. "What's after series two?" "What's after series two?" "What's after series two?" "WHAT'S AFTER SERIES TWO?"-------- THE MOVIE. THE MOVIE IS NEXT. BUT THE MOVIE KILLS THEM. THE MOVIE KILLS THEM ALL....They can never watch it! It's hollow... And the dream is gone. Imagination replaced will toy-selling commercialism. The sensational Uber Villain diminished and slayed by a sorry, predictable, 'All American Boy Autobot' plot-gag. A waste... Ruined... Just. Plane. Ruined. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 20:47:45 GMT
It's because we care, Shockprowl. We need to keep an eye on you for your own safety. Think of us as a pretender shell wrapped around you. That's nice. Thanks, buddy. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 20:48:25 GMT
It's because we care, Shockprowl. We need to keep an eye on you for your own safety. Think of us as a pretender shell wrapped around you. And think of us as a kindly Headmaster, inserting ourselves into your gaping neckhole and acting as your new, better, brain. That's.... Less nice, and kinda disturbing... But, I thank you anyway. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 20:49:03 GMT
They they they KILL all the great characters that helped them BIRTH THE FRANCHISE!!!THE EDGE OF DESTRUCTION! THAT'S The Movie that should have been made! Change is the nature of existence my friend. Not all change is good. |
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Post by blueshift on Sept 25, 2019 20:50:04 GMT
I preferred transformers who turned into space ships and had space adventures. Child me was glad all the boring cars died so we got more tech vehicles
Rodimus is the chosen one!!!
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 25, 2019 20:50:22 GMT
Just watch your fingers when we shut the shell.
And remember where the light switch is.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 25, 2019 20:52:17 GMT
I preferred transformers who turned into space ships and had space adventures. Child me was glad all the boring cars died so we got more tech vehicles Rodimus is the chosen one!!! Yes, look, Shockprowl may have gone all Alf Garnet on us, but you're just plain wrong. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 20:53:22 GMT
Just watch your fingers when we shut the shell. And remember where the light switch is. Whuuuu what if I need to... you know... 'shake hands with great unwashed'...? |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 20:54:41 GMT
I preferred transformers who turned into space ships and had space adventures. Child me was glad all the boring cars died so we got more tech vehicles Rodimus is the chosen one!!! You're deluding yourselves, gentlemen. AND BETRAYING THE ONE TRUE PRIME. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 20:55:30 GMT
I preferred transformers who turned into space ships and had space adventures. Child me was glad all the boring cars died so we got more tech vehicles Rodimus is the chosen one!!! Yes, look, Shockprowl may have gone all Alf Garnet on us, but you're just plain wrong. NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! I'm free.... |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 25, 2019 20:55:40 GMT
If you do that in our shell we will be very upset.
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 20:58:20 GMT
Starscream
Ironhide
Ratchet
Thundercracker
Skywarp
Wheeljack
Brawn
Windcharger
Shrapnel
Bombshell
Kickback
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Prowl
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 25, 2019 21:03:04 GMT
Yes, look, Shockprowl may have gone all Alf Garnet on us, but you're just plain wrong. NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! I'm free.... "Bloody Nebulans, coming round here and taking our childhoods..." |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 21:04:13 GMT
Bloody Headmasters....
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2019 15:00:27 GMT
I preferred transformers who turned into space ships and had space adventures. Child me was glad all the boring cars died so we got more tech vehicles Rodimus is the chosen one!!! Blueshift is right. -Ralph |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 26, 2019 20:31:20 GMT
no
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Post by The Huff on Sept 29, 2019 19:28:45 GMT
I didn't see the commercialism of the movie when I was young. I saw a children's cartoon that was bold and brave enough to do what other cartoons didn't. Show that war has casualties. And not just nameless nobodies - characters that mattered - even the hero himself! And I admired that and the movie is one of the main things that kept me into Transformers. We could have had a Secret Of The Sword type three TV episodes glued together film instead which wouldn't have had any impact at all
And as a comfort, it was all set in the future so Prowl and Co. were still around 'now'. They just had this coming later in their lives (which, in real life we all do).
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 29, 2019 19:38:53 GMT
I didn't see the commercialism of the movie when I was young. I saw a children's cartoon that was bold and brave enough to do what other cartoons didn't. Show that war has casualties. And not just nameless nobodies - characters that mattered - even the hero himself! And I admired that and the movie is one of the main things that kept me into Transformers. We could have had a Secret Of The Sword type three TV episodes glued together film instead which wouldn't have had any impact at all And as a comfort, it was all set in the future so Prowl and Co. were still around 'now'. They just had this coming later in their lives (which, in real life we all do). That would be all very well, if the Transformers hadn't already been so well established in both the comics and the cartoons as following different laws of destructibility to humans, so that it just didn't make sense for them to suddenly start keeling over and becoming permanently deactivated for no apparent reason when they got shot (Ultra Magnus excepted). If they'd done it with G.I. Joe, Thundercats or He-Man it would have made sense, but it just didn't make sense for TFs. That combined with the obvious Star Wars rip-off elements, every planet being populated by Earth-inspired transforming robots, and almost every character having a peculiar speech impediment, and it just seemed... a mess. Albeit a wonderfully animated and scored mess. Martin |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 29, 2019 19:45:46 GMT
I see what you did there, Martin. Redeemed yourself at the last!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 29, 2019 20:12:52 GMT
I still maintain it is one of the finest theatrical released animated films ever made.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 29, 2019 20:16:25 GMT
Darn tootin'
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Post by The Huff on Sept 29, 2019 20:24:23 GMT
I didn't see the commercialism of the movie when I was young. I saw a children's cartoon that was bold and brave enough to do what other cartoons didn't. Show that war has casualties. And not just nameless nobodies - characters that mattered - even the hero himself! And I admired that and the movie is one of the main things that kept me into Transformers. We could have had a Secret Of The Sword type three TV episodes glued together film instead which wouldn't have had any impact at all And as a comfort, it was all set in the future so Prowl and Co. were still around 'now'. They just had this coming later in their lives (which, in real life we all do). That would be all very well, if the Transformers hadn't already been so well established in both the comics and the cartoons as following different laws of destructibility to humans, so that it just didn't make sense for them to suddenly start keeling over and becoming permanently deactivated for no apparent reason when they got shot (Ultra Magnus excepted). If they'd done it with G.I. Joe, Thundercats or He-Man it would have made sense, but it just didn't make sense for TFs. That combined with the obvious Star Wars rip-off elements, every planet being populated by Earth-inspired transforming robots, and almost every character having a peculiar speech impediment, and it just seemed... a mess. Albeit a wonderfully animated and scored mess. Martin Again, young me just see it that, in the future, the war, Decepticons and their weaponry were much more powerful and lethal. That in the cartoon on Earth, the robots were weaker. Here the Decepticons were fully in control of Cybertron and extremely powered up. I also see it as more like the comics, where characters died. |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 29, 2019 20:46:46 GMT
As did I at the time. I hadn't seen the cartoon series when I saw the movie in the cinema so all the carnage and doom seemed normal to me as I only knew the comic.
-Ralph
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Post by The Huff on Sept 29, 2019 21:24:57 GMT
Also, thinking about it, the only characters with speech impediments were Blurr and Grimlock (but he always spoke like that) then a lot later in the film, Wheelie & Wreck Gar. All the other characters just had defining character traits - just like every other Transformer before them (and most characters in other films and fiction).
The only thing that sticks out with the characters that go on the mission to space, to me, is that they all seemed to have neatly picked a different colour each to be to. (Which isn't a bad thing if you are reading this Micheal Bay!)
Anyway, I have just re-watched the whole thing this evening cinema style on my projector and headphones and no one can tell me it's not one of the best films ever made.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 29, 2019 21:54:38 GMT
Also, thinking about it, the only characters with speech impediments were Blurr and Grimlock (but he always spoke like that) then a lot later in the film, Wheelie & Wreck Gar. And Perceptor, and the other Dinobots, and Soundwave and Shrapnel. Obviously the voices of Soundwave and Shrapnel and the Dinobots were established in the earlier cartoons, but with Blurr and Perceptor and Wheelie and the Junkions on top of them I just found it too much. Martin |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 29, 2019 22:16:15 GMT
What's wrong with how Perceptor speaks?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 29, 2019 22:26:02 GMT
What's wrong with how Perceptor speaks? It's pretentious. I think he's perfectly capable of speaking in plain English if he really wanted to be more clearly understood, or if he wanted to get his message across more quickly. But he chooses words of many syllables when a couple will do. Martin |
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