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Post by The Doctor on Jun 24, 2009 18:13:32 GMT
Saw it before ROTF and Star Trek.
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Post by chrisl on Aug 3, 2009 18:55:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2009 20:18:38 GMT
I didn't quite understand that.
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Post by Dave on Aug 6, 2009 14:24:48 GMT
I saw it this morning and it was...OK, not great or good but still OK and certainly better than ROTF. There were things I didn't like but can't really get in to without being spoilerish. Two things... not really spoilers but in case people don't want to know anything going in... Lot of backstoriess in the film. Different to the comics and not as good. possibly spoilish... The Joes in Paris reminded me of the start of Team America. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 6, 2009 18:27:31 GMT
Verily, 'twas a delightfully silly film. Unlike Transformers, it doesn't even attempt to ground the thing in reality or have any characters the viewer can identify with, or any emotional weight whatsoever. It's just outlandish set pieces from start to finish. With makes for a lot of shallow yet supremely entertaining fun along the way.
Except for the flashbacks. They were all boring as heck.
Scarlett is red hot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 22:37:35 GMT
It has dawned on me that now that there is both a live action Transformers film and a live action GI Joe film at the cinema's and that IDW hold the license for both franchises it is almost a given certainty that a crossover film and/or comic book will come out at some point.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 8, 2009 22:11:00 GMT
I really enjoyed this film. Great silly fun from start to finish. The filmakers clearly understand how ludicrous the concept is but just run with it anyway. Well paced, well performed. Perfect tosh movie and the most fun I've had in the cinema this year by a country mile. I often had a big smile on my face. The Paris action scene was fanastic bonkers madness in particular. I will pick up the DVD. Yeah, sure, a lot of the CG was ropey. The script clearly called for more than could be realised with the budget but it felt like the makers just thought: 'sod it, we'll have a go', which I applaud. I'll take ambition over finess any day. EDIT: I pretty much agree with this review. Spoilers! www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22455-Ralph |
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Post by legios on Aug 8, 2009 23:10:14 GMT
Scarlett is red hot. Martin Oh yes, she is a very fine looking woman indeed. Thoroughly enjoyed this film. It hit all the marks a dumb action movie well, and did it with a bit of verve and panache. The cast were great - delivering exactly the right level of nonsense for the material (Storm Shadow especially was just over-the-top enough to work. and Christopher Ecclestone's accent really deserves special guest star status alone). It's eyes were definitely larger than its stomach as far as effects work is concerned but, like Ralph, I do find something rather charming in the fact that they threw caution to the winds and went for it anyway. The pacing is superb too - it hits the ground running and keeps moving along briskly in a very pulpy way (and I mean that as a compliment). Even the obligatory training montage was rather fun - and then the paris sequence came along and it just kept getting better. It had the benefit of a creative team who know _ how _ to escalate action sequences over the course of a film as well, which always helps Daft, silly, loud and enormous, enormous fun. Must keep an eye out for the DVD release - this is one I suspect I will be spending Paper Pounds on. Karl |
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2009 8:04:04 GMT
Yeah Scarlett is great. In fact I've been a keen admirer of her brea...um work since she was in the final series of Alias. Should just point out (because I'm not sure it was clear) that my comment about the Paris bit was not a criticism, just an observation. Did get a bit bored of all the flashbacks and then a bit annoyed because when it was clear there were going to be a few of them I was looking forward to seeing what they would do with... Snake-Eyes' injuries in Vietnam war (later non-specific Asian conflict). Instead we just got "oh he took a vow of silence". Other thoughts... Yeah, I too wasn't keen on the Baroness just being evil because of the nanomite thingys. Presumably they'll fail to get them out and they'll reactivate for the sequel. and... Maybe it's just a familiarity with the comics making me imagine things, but it seemed to me that there were subtle hints that Snake-Eyes and Scarlett had a thing going on. Then Ripcord became interested and I thought it was leading up to some over the top statement of lust, at which point she'd turn round and say "what? no I'm with Snake-Eyes" but nothing happened. Maybe if I hadn't been expecting something I'd have thought nothing of it, but it just seemed kind of odd. |
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 9, 2009 9:23:39 GMT
Scarlett is indeed fine totty.
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Post by jameso on Aug 9, 2009 23:57:51 GMT
I found this moderately entertaining (and a billion times better than ROTF) but I did think it was a massive flaw that the main set piece was the chase through Paris which went for _ages_. I already knew what would happen after seeing the trailer which got to the point in about a second (not the filmmaker's fault the trailer did that but still...) and even if I didn't know, I mean, knocking over the Eiffel tower isn't really that big a deal, especially with it already being evacuated, in terms of global catastrophe. Wholesale terrorist related slaughter wouldn't fit the tone of the film but I just found that part really lacking.
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Post by blueshift on Aug 11, 2009 23:39:28 GMT
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Post by Hero on Aug 11, 2009 23:41:28 GMT
Did Sgt Slaughter appear in this film as... Sgt Slaughter?
Hope to see this flick soon.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 12, 2009 8:29:50 GMT
Hey, do you guys remember that mini comic strip from when they re-named 'Action Force' as 'G.I. Joe: The Action Force', and tried to make out there had actually been two organisations all along, one called G.I. Joe in America under Hawk, and one called Action Force in Europe under Flint, and that they were now joining forces to become one single group. Never in the whole of Transformers did they (or we) attempt such a brazen, hole-riddled retcon. How many readers did they really think they were going to convince?
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Post by Dave on Aug 12, 2009 8:45:17 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 12, 2009 9:26:59 GMT
Even worse, they mis-spell "exhilarating" in the very first panel.
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Post by Hero on Aug 12, 2009 9:31:41 GMT
If I remember right they also did a UK based one-shot with Scarlet teaching a couple of kids the Green Cross Code. It was printed in the Marvel Bumper Comic I think.
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Post by blueshift on Aug 12, 2009 11:05:00 GMT
I remember that! GI Joe were only fighting Destro, the losers.
I do remember that I liked it when it was Action Force, but not when it was GI Joe, so I guess Hasbro knew what they were doing when they changed it the first time.
(GI Joe was too American, it made me feel like it was 'not meant for me')
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 12, 2009 16:49:02 GMT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!Even worse than I had remembered! "Instead of becoming better at fighting COBRA, we'll try some rebranding! It worked for New Coke!" Morons. -Ralph
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Post by jameso on Aug 13, 2009 2:18:33 GMT
It's the GI Joe equivalent of the two Megatrons thing. I think they're both giving each other a run for their money.
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Post by Nigel on Aug 13, 2009 11:19:14 GMT
If I remember right they also did a UK based one-shot with Scarlet teaching a couple of kids the Green Cross Code. It was printed in the Marvel Bumper Comic I think. Nah, it was Lady Jaye. Please forgive the cliche, but I found GI Joe a film of two halves. The first half, I thoroughly enjoyed, loved it. Put simply, it was cool. Exciting action sequences, high-tech hardware, in-jokes, humour, global locations (basically, all that Revenge of the Fallen should have been). I was grinning all the time. The second half - from the arrival at the Arctic - I found "meh". I think this was entirely down to major plot elements that came to the fore in the second half being so far removed from the previous mythology I'm used to that I couldn't buy into them and they distracted me too much from the film. In particular, the Duke/Baroness relationship along with its "bad girl turns good because she falls for the hero" cliche, Cobra Commander's origin, Scarlett's attraction to Ripcord and Destro's mask. I think I'm forgetting something else, too. I think I'd enjoy it more the second time around, knowing what to expect. I'd also add that the changes aren't bad in themselves, I just had a problem with them on the first viewing. It was a pretty packed audience last night and the comments people were making afterwards seemed very positive. Interestingly, the audience was largely people in their early twenties who wouldn't have much prior knowledge and familiarity. I thought it odd that the film was called The Rise of Cobra yet Cobra wasn't mentioned almost until the very last scene then the entire upper command was immediately taken into custody. I just had a brainwave! One of my thoughts after the film was that it seems unlikely that they'd have permanently killed off Storm Shadow when he's one of the most popular characters and his relationship with Snake Eyes is one of the most popular elements, but it's equally unlikely that he could survive those injuries and a dunking in freezing Arctic waters hundreds of feet below the ice cap. But - here's the brainwave - perhaps that's the ideal starting point for a Serpentor storyline. I picked up Panini's new G.I.Joe comic this morning, thought I'd give it a whirl. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 13, 2009 13:40:57 GMT
Don't forget that Serpentor's comic origin involved throwing a dead Stormshadow into the melting pot which ended up reanimating him (GI Joe 49 and an issue of UKTF thatI recall not the issue number for)
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 16, 2009 20:15:34 GMT
Saw this this evening. What utterly enjoyable and good humoured nonsense!  |
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Post by jonathan85 on Aug 17, 2009 18:39:51 GMT
I'll add my praise to what everyone else has said - had an absolute blast watching this earlier. Yes, it's nonsense, but it moves at a fantastic pace and the majority of the cast seem to having a ball. The Paris sequence was great stuff in particular, and, unlike ROTF, at least the humour didn't wildly jump in tone throughout.
And then there was Eccleston's Glasgow ned accent...
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 18, 2009 20:29:40 GMT
"Ya really tossed tha caber oot tha park wi' that one!"
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 26, 2009 20:09:21 GMT
My knowledge of the source material comprises of zero toys owned, probably zero toys played with. I read Actionforce 1-50 a decade ago. I read the richard Branson crossover issues in Transformers and the US take on Goldbug but never any of the back up strips in the UK TF. Never read GI Joe aside from the G2 build up. Never watched the cartoon, not even when we rented the videos with assorted shows on. If it was anything like Transformers I missed all kinds of stuff, but actually liked that as I always wondered what Transformers was like for a non fan. I really enjoyed it, well aside from a few plot points which did annoy me. See I didnt know Hawk was an important character at the time so when he wasnt killed in his office it felt utterly dumb, I was just sat there thinking and now your going to kill him right. Leader of your enemy, only person who currently knows your in the base. So your going to kill him now, right? No your leaving. An your aren't going to turn around at the last second an shot him, no. OK.
The exosuits were fun, I liked them, but just seemed like one hell of a strange addition to the story. Really made me want to see a Centurians movie though.
Lastly the "If those missiles reach top speed we dont have anything that can catch them... So its a good job the enemy have parked a suitably fast plane right here right next to the silos."
I know films are full of such contrivances but those three stuck out at me a lot. Otherwise great. certain DVD purchase. Oh that was the other thing. I don't mind the odd it of dodgey CG as long as its communicating its purpose, but in some places it just seemed unnecessary. Scarlets CG bike ride being one of the stand outs. Andy |
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Post by Nigel on Aug 27, 2009 16:15:11 GMT
See I didnt know Hawk was an important character at the time so when he wasnt killed in his office it felt utterly dumb, I was just sat there thinking and now your going to kill him right. Leader of your enemy, only person who currently knows your in the base. So your going to kill him now, right? No your leaving. An your aren't going to turn around at the last second an shot him, no. OK.
This references the Devil's Due comic series, in which Hawk ends up in a wheelchair. |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 28, 2009 11:20:13 GMT
The bike ride was CGI?!! Wah!
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 28, 2009 15:45:23 GMT
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Post by duffism1981 on Nov 14, 2009 21:27:13 GMT
I was bored so I decided to give this a watch last night.
I agree with what most have said here in that it was tosh, but very enjoyable tosh. I didn't know what to expect as other than owning some of the toys many years ago and only having seen the movie in terms of the cartoon, I didn't know squat about any of the characters.
The main problem I found was the guy who played Duke was as dull as ditch water and so unlikable. I was so desperate so see him killer off, but sadly as he was Duke I knew that wasn't coming. The Wayans brother was also quiet crap.
The cgi was impressive in place, yet poor in others, mainly the chase seen through Paris.
Christopher Eccleston was decent as Destro, yet his Scottish accent is up there with Robert Duvalls from A Shot at Glory as naff.
I will most likely pick it up on dvd when it hits the 3 for £10 range in Asda about easter time.
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