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Post by Pinwig on Aug 15, 2015 22:45:22 GMT
Hey, come on, at least you and I stand united on the Brain of Morbius issue, seemingly against everyone else. It never has sat quite right in my mind, but watching it recently I was aghast at how rubbish it actually is.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 15, 2015 23:13:42 GMT
We do indeed stand united on that one.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 16, 2016 16:46:12 GMT
Update time. Today I start reliving Peter Davison, so it's time to close the book of Tom.
SEASON 15
Horror of Fang Rock - 10
The Invisible Enemy - 2
Image of the Fendahl - 9
The Sun Makers - 10
Underworld - 4
The Invasion of Time - 5
SEASON 16
The Ribos Operation - 9
The Pirate Planet - 9
The Stones of Blood - 10
The Androids of Tara - 5
The Power of Kroll - 3
The Armageddon Factor - 6
SEASON 17
Destiny of the Daleks - 9
City of Death - 10
The Creature from the Pit - 3
Nightmare of Eden - 6
The Horns of Nimon - 6
Shada - (10)
SEASON 18
The Leisure Hive - 7
Meglos - 5
Full Circle - 9
State of Decay - 7
Warriors' Gate - 7
The Keeper of Traken - 6
Logopolis - 9
K9 and Company - 6
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 16, 2016 18:14:23 GMT
Destiny a 9?  ? Are you mad??? -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 16, 2016 18:49:22 GMT
Yes, mad! WHERE'S THE ONE EXTRA POINT YOU FORGOT?
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 16, 2016 19:15:31 GMT
Destiny gets a nine for the same reason Phil rates it - nostalgia. But even I can't go as far as ten because the conclusion is naff. The first episode is proper old school Doctor explores an alien planet stuff though, which is just lovely even if it is typical Nation. I've also enjoyed many a day out at Winspit with friends recreating scenes from that and Blake's 7, so Destiny has a special place for me.
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Post by blueshift on Feb 16, 2016 19:49:25 GMT
Destiny gets a nine for the same reason Phil rates it - nostalgia. But even I can't go as far as ten because the conclusion is naff. The first episode is proper old school Doctor explores an alien planet stuff though, which is just lovely even if it is typical Nation. I've also enjoyed many a day out at Winspit with friends recreating scenes from that and Blake's 7, so Destiny has a special place for me. I like Destiny too! So confused to discover I was supposed to hate it! |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 16, 2016 20:08:08 GMT
The Day The Hub Went Mad.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 16, 2016 20:24:12 GMT
Right, so the Movellans are disco diva madness, and their ludicrously placed power packs are just silly, but apart from that there isn't anything wrong with it if you like typical Nation stories.
There are some superb moments. The Daleks with proper grating, screaming Dalek voices and Romana genuinely terrified at the end of ep one is pure Who History.
Do not move! DO NOT MOVE!!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 20, 2016 18:14:35 GMT
Nine out of ten for Destiny???
Unacceptable. Replace that with a 1 or preferably a 0!
Shit Davros, shit robots, shit.
Andy
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Post by Jim on Feb 20, 2016 18:42:19 GMT
Destiny in one of those I have yet to see, though I did have the Target novelisation back in the day. I don't remember the story well, but don't remember finding it dire; is this one of those where it just isn't great on TV?
-Jim
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Post by blueshift on Feb 20, 2016 18:47:10 GMT
Nine out of ten for Destiny??? Unacceptable. Replace that with a 1 or preferably a 0! I agree with Andy. A 1 next to a 0 |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 20, 2016 19:29:01 GMT
Destiny in one of those I have yet to see, though I did have the Target novelisation back in the day. I don't remember the story well, but don't remember finding it dire; is this one of those where it just isn't great on TV? -Jim No, it's one of those stories where certain people will tell you it's rubbish when really it isn't. |
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 20, 2016 21:15:26 GMT
Certainly seems to be divisive. In the grand scheme of things I can't really see what's wrong with it; it's much better than some of the real rubbish from that era like the pantomime that is Creature from the Pit. Okay, so Gooderson's portrayal does diminish Wisher's a little and Davros isn't the figure he is in Genesis, but it isn't a bad story.
Actually now I come to think of it it probably is the worst of the colour Dalek stories. Oh no, no that's Death. So yes, I can't see why it's getting flack.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 20, 2016 21:17:30 GMT
No worst colour Dalek story is Reurrection!
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Post by blueshift on Feb 20, 2016 22:35:30 GMT
Nine out of ten for Destiny??? Unacceptable. Replace that with a 1 or preferably a 0! I agree with Andy. A 1 next to a 0 Oh my god my robot points and avatar!!! |
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Post by Jim on Feb 20, 2016 22:51:08 GMT
Wait, is someone dissing Death to the Daleks? I'm not having that! One of the all-time greats!
(ok, it was literally the only one I had on VHS in the 80s so I'm very fond of it, but still...)
-Jim
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 20, 2016 23:28:52 GMT
No worst colour Dalek story is Reurrection! I will end you. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 20, 2016 23:32:31 GMT
It's grim, nasty pish. And the Davros is pish a dribbling maniac compared to what's gone before.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 20, 2016 23:33:47 GMT
Rather than a flat, tired and ineffective cobweb trap in his previous appearance!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 20, 2016 23:42:27 GMT
I prefer Gooderson Davros to Resurrection Malloy Davros. Malloy improves.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 20, 2016 23:51:45 GMT
Oh my word what have I started. Dalek wars.
<spins up Abslom Daak flexi disc>
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 21, 2016 0:32:29 GMT
This has been going on for years. There's a whole episode of the Star Dub podcast where I am a guest Ralph and Andu and I argue about it.
Any search for Destiny in the who thread will generate an instance of Alph and Andu being very wrong in this matter.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 21, 2016 8:36:07 GMT
It's grim, nasty pish. And the Davros is pish a dribbling maniac compared to what's gone before. I can't stand the confusion in your miiiiiiiiiiiiind! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 21, 2016 8:37:46 GMT
Wait, is someone dissing Death to the Daleks? I'm not having that! One of the all-time greats! (ok, it was literally the only one I had on VHS in the 80s so I'm very fond of it, but still...) -Jim Death to the Daleks (the top seller of the range in VHS format) is tops and Bellal is the greatest companion who never was. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 21, 2016 8:38:27 GMT
No worst colour Dalek story is Reurrection! You mean Evolution of the Daleks. -Ralph |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 21, 2016 9:19:32 GMT
This has been going on for years. There's a whole episode of the Star Dub podcast where I am a guest Ralph and Andu and I argue about it. Any search for Destiny in the who thread will generate an instance of Alph and Andu being very wrong in this matter. We are correct. You are misguided |
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 16, 2016 12:39:31 GMT
Nothing particularly controversial here. Honest.
SEASON 19
Castrovalva - 7
Four to Doomsday - 5
Kinda - 6
The Visitation - 8
Black Orchid - 7
Earthshock - 10
Time-Flight - 8
SEASON 20
Arc of Infinity - 6
Snakedance - 7
Mawdryn Undead - 9
Terminus - 9
Enlightenment - 10
The King's Demons - 7
The Five Doctors - 10
SEASON 21
Warriors of the Deep - 5
The Awakening - 8
Frontios - 6
Resurrection of the Daleks - 9
Planet of Fire - 9
The Caves of Androzani - 10
First time I've rewatched all of Davison in order. I hadn't really clicked how dark his third season is compared to the others - definitely looks like a proto-Baker season with the way the Doctor becomes more violent. If Warriors had proper lighting and a decent story, and Frontios wasn't so boring, it'd be a nigh on perfect run.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 16, 2016 13:24:33 GMT
Good to see some Mawdryn Undead love in there. Very underated story.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 16, 2016 13:42:29 GMT
I noted the flack you got for that looking back through the thread. I think you're right - it gets a big plus simply because it's a story that actually plays with time. I think it's also a very good timelord story because of what it suggests about them. Watch it next to other stories from that time and I think it stands up well.
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? Are you mad???
