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Post by The Doctor on Nov 14, 2012 20:33:06 GMT
So you give it a 1 then. Right, let's move on!
Mr Blueshift, are we covering the BBCi serials and the two animated Tennant episodes?
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Nov 15, 2012 0:14:57 GMT
So you give it a 1 then. Right, let's move on! Mr Blueshift, are we covering the BBCi serials and the two animated Tennant episodes? -Ralph We can do! Let me get my act together and I'll carry on, sorry, work's been beating the joy out of me recently. |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 30, 2012 20:31:51 GMT
But Ralph needs graphs.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 9, 2013 18:55:09 GMT
Is it time for the 9th Doctor yet?
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 22, 2014 12:39:57 GMT
Bump.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 22, 2014 20:18:51 GMT
Phil needs TMUK DW polls for NuWho!
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 23, 2014 17:41:33 GMT
Newer members could also give us their thoughts on Doctors 1-8!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 23, 2014 17:43:56 GMT
Oooo yes, make Matt redo those graphs
..... on which I've just noticed that I'm the Gween line
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Post by blueshift on Apr 23, 2014 18:09:35 GMT
How is this thread so old???
Do we want to revote everything from scratch, or carry on where we left off?
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Post by legios on Apr 24, 2014 16:22:36 GMT
Well.. You are the Poll Lord in this case, so it would be at your discretion but I would argue for carrying on from where we are and new posters can "back-fill" as they wish.
Karl
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Post by blueshift on Apr 24, 2014 17:33:00 GMT
Okay then!
SERIES 1!
Rose
The End of the World
The Unquiet Dead
Aliens of London
World War Three
Dalek
The Long Game
Father's Day
The Empty Child
The Doctor Dances
Boom Town
Bad Wolf
The Parting of the Ways
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Post by blueshift on Apr 24, 2014 17:57:39 GMT
I am finding it hard to split the episode quality from their historical context to me, but here we go!
Rose - 8
The End of the World - 7
The Unquiet Dead - 7
Aliens of London - 8
World War Three - 7
Dalek - 10
The Long Game - 6
Father's Day - 8
The Empty Child - 9
The Doctor Dances - 9
Boom Town - 7
Bad Wolf - 9
The Parting of the Ways - 10
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 24, 2014 18:02:55 GMT
Rose: 10 - Fab start, amazing hook into the new series
The End of the World: 3 - Oh look we can do aliens. It's all about the make up and video game style episode end
The Unquiet Dead: 8 - Fab scary episode
Aliens of London: 3 - Look we can destroy Big Ben
World War Three: 3 - Name me one thing about this pair that wouldn't have been better for using Zygons instead
Dalek: 10 - Superb stuff
The Long Game: 2 - Ugh
Father's Day: 8 - Good, but the Doctor gets written out half way through leaving Rose to sort it out
The Empty Child: 9 - Are you my Mummy?
The Doctor Dances: 9 - Genuine scary stuff from this pair again
Boom Town: 7 - Far better than people make out. The Doctor has dinner with his enemy
Bad Wolf: 8 - far too many now dated cultural references
The Parting of the Ways: 8 - Lots of good stuff but off the series A Game
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Post by blueshift on Apr 24, 2014 18:11:51 GMT
I think people get too caught up on the farting aliens. On rewatching I was pleasantly surprised by how many great and interesting bits are in that 2-parter.
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Post by blueshift on Apr 24, 2014 18:14:28 GMT
Also while we are at it, lets see some revotes for those recovered eps:
The Enemy of the World -
The Web of Fear -
I am going for:
The Enemy of the World - 9
The Web of Fear - 9
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 24, 2014 18:17:07 GMT
Rose - 10 - great way to kick off the series.
The End of the World - 7 now we get to see how a new companion adapts to the Tardis and life with the Doctor.
The Unquiet Dead - 8 enjoyable historical tale.
Aliens of London - 5 if only the Slitheen weren't so pants I'd rate it more highly
World War Three - 5 - see above
Dalek - 10 - oh yeah. That's how you do the Daleks.
The Long Game - 6 - enjoyable and a nice mirror to the End of the World.
Father's Day - 4 - hated it then, mawkish sentiment with too many contrivances to hold up to scrutiny.
The Empty Child - 9 superb stuff from The Moff
The Doctor Dances - 9 ditto
Boom Town 8 - it's nice to see the consequences of the Doctor's actions every now and then, and Anette Badland is gold with Ecclestone.
Bad Wolf - 8 - pop culture references not withstanding a great first half.
The Parting of the Ways - 9 poor Lynda with a y. Daleks are on great form here and the Emperor was tops.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 24, 2014 18:20:45 GMT
Also while we are at it, lets see some revotes for those recovered eps: The Enemy of the World - The Web of Fear - For the record, last time Matt voted The Enemy of the World - 3 (I wanted to like it but my goodness I actually fell asleep. Maybe it needs another go) The Web of Fear - 9 I am going for: The Enemy of the World - 9 The Web of Fear - 9 Quite a change for Enemy! No, WoF is a Ten. Change your vote! Last time I said The Enemy of the World - 7 Most mental plot twist ever The Web of Fear - 10 SUPERB I want the remaining five episodes back now! And I Think I'll stick with that. |
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Post by blueshift on Apr 24, 2014 18:35:44 GMT
It is quite a change. Having the visuals for Enemy made the world of difference to me. Web was pretty much as I was expecting, minus a surprisingly badly directed 'reveal' shot at the end BUT ITS STILL A 9 PHIL, DONT WORRY!
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 24, 2014 20:19:47 GMT
Burns refuses to vote! The two parters should be voted as one story not as individual episodes. That's how DWM does it. We didn't vote for Hartnell's individual episodes!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 24, 2014 20:22:51 GMT
Web is a 9. It was a 10 before the episodes came back and it suddenly became obvious how it peaks with episode 4. Still stonking stuff though.
Enemy is a 9. I now love it after being indifferent previously.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 24, 2014 21:06:05 GMT
Burns refuses to vote! The two parters should be voted as one story not as individual episodes. That's how DWM does it. We didn't vote for Hartnell's individual episodes! -Ralph That's how Mr Blueshift says we vote so that's how we vote. We voted for TToaTL as separate stories remember! |
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Post by legios on Apr 24, 2014 21:08:22 GMT
SERIES 1!
Hurrah! My favourite NuWho Doctor!
Rose - 10 -stonking way to start. Hits the ground running at a tremendous pace and never lets up.
The End of the World- 7 decent enough, a primer on adventuring in space and time for the new audience.
The Unquiet Dead - 7 and a bit of history for contrast with last weeks space shenanigans.
Aliens of London - 5 Panto is not foreign to Doctor Who, and sadly the Slitheen are a little too silly to really get mileage out of "space gangsters want to sell the radioactive remains of Earth as red diesel".
World War Three - 5 see above
Dalek- 10 One Dalek is enough to scare the whole audience! Top, top stuff. And Harry Van Staten is a great human villian, with his "price of everything, value of nothing outlook"
The Long Game - Decent, if a little underpowered.
Father's Day - 4 Loss, regret, the urge to change the past. This should be affecting stuff for me and possess a real emotional punch, but it has a cloying sentimentality which makes it fall flat, and exposes the thrashing loose ends of its internal logic too much.
The Empty Child - 9 (and see below)
The Doctor Dances -9 Fantastic two-parter. Creepy in places, but with a vein of true humanity and optimism in it that I adore. It also gives us the "charming rogue" version of
Jack Harkness, who plays so well off of Ecclestone's Doctor and Piper's Rose.
Boom Town - 8 redeems the Slitheen, and gives us a wonderful scene which manages to give us both marvellous comedy and some real actual pathos and moral weight at the same time. Also completes the "fixing of Mickey", making him likeable - and actually making you sympathise with him a little as he starts to lose Rose.
Bad Wolf - 9 (See Below)
The Parting of the Ways - 9 - and a truly stonking two-parter to end the first season on. Whilst the modern TV pastiche in the opening episode is a bit broad, and possibly goes on a little too long, but it gives us Lynda - who in a just universe would have been a companion, and whose death reminds us that the Doctor Who universe is not innately just and requires good people to stand up an do good things to make it so. A story which follows up on Dalek's terrifying single Dalek by giving us a terrifying army of Daleks (and how my heart leapt at the next time trailer where I heard a BriggsEmperor Dalek!). A story which takes Ecclestone's Doctor up to the brink of a truly horrifying decision, but snatches him back from the brink at a terrible cost. Nail-biting stuff.
Bonus revotes:
Enemy of the World - 9.5 My favourite Doctor takes on an Avengers-budgeted spy thriller (and I'm talking Keel/Gale, not Peel/King). And then it tips over into bonkers James Bond territory without warning. Inspiredly daft, and gives Troughton so much room to stretch his acting muscles. Marvelous, marvelous stuff.
Web of Fear - 9.5 Almost perfect. Such marvelous sets (I've visited most of those Tube Stations, and it is all absolutely believable), the Covent Garden Market battle suddenely makes sense, (and Lethbridge-Stewart isn't the panicked, broken, hindrance that we thought he was on audio (in fact in terms of tactics he and his men probably do better here than U.N.I.T mostly manage - and far, far better than New Series Un.I.T can really claim!). The mystery of who the Intelligence's agent is engages. The Yeti are brilliant. It just seems to need a breather just before it gets to the last third of the story. But it remains perhaps the quintissential Base under Siege and a real candidate for my favourite Doctor's best story.
Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 24, 2014 21:18:06 GMT
Web of Fear - 9.5 Almost perfect. Such marvelous sets (I've visited most of those Tube Stations, and it is all absolutely believable) Well apart from Cannon St & Monument. The platforms there are built using Cut & Cover, with the two lines between two platforms and not the deep level style, one platform & one line per tunnel, seen on the Northern line platforms www.hamovhotov.com/picturegallery/thumbs/lrg-319-monument_tube_station_in_london.jpg |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 24, 2014 21:18:20 GMT
Oh and how much for the Long game?
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Post by legios on Apr 24, 2014 21:55:59 GMT
I bow to your superior knowledge there. But I still think that the set does marvelously as Goodge Street - having gone up the passenger stairwell there (I know they tell you not to walk, and to use the lifts, but if not specifically prohibited...) and wandered about a bit on the station I think they captured the overall feel very well. Oh and how much for the Long game? Long Game should be a 5. Karl |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 24, 2014 22:33:45 GMT
It's perfect for all the Northern line stations
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 25, 2014 21:36:36 GMT
Newer members could also give us their thoughts on Doctors 1-8! -Ralph Okay, so looking back at the first page I see how we do this. Although I am deeply skeptical about 10 being given to the Sensorites by certain esteemed board personages. That kind of behaviour is only going to get you the hardest of Paddington Bear hard stares you know. |
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Post by blueshift on Apr 25, 2014 21:38:12 GMT
You clearly have not been exposed to the full force of Ralph's 'passion' for The Sensorites.
That said, the documentary on the DVD really did make me see it in a better light.
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Post by blueshift on Apr 25, 2014 21:40:39 GMT
Burns refuses to vote! The two parters should be voted as one story not as individual episodes. That's how DWM does it. We didn't vote for Hartnell's individual episodes! -Ralph I feel New Who is a different beast. Sure, maybe Aliens of London/World War 3 is one story... but is Bad Wolf and Parting of the Ways? Or are they two linked one parter? Does season 3 end with a 2-parter or a 3-parter? Is Good Man Goes to War/Lets Kill Hitler all one story? This way madness lies, Ralph! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 25, 2014 21:45:03 GMT
Talk no more of the Sensorites. I'm about to rewatch it.
It would be so much better if Stephen Dartnell was playing his first DW role
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