|
|
Post by Bogatan on Jul 16, 2014 18:57:28 GMT
Spoiler
I also kept an eye out for inappropriate Bay camera shots. I spotted three and they really are so toned down I can't get even a little worked up by them.
1. Camera inside the post box - boob shot
2. Are your shorts shrinking - rear shot
3. Sophie Myles flies towards the camera - boob shot, but so quick I question if it should even be counted.
Really though theres nothing visual or plot wise that I haven't watched in countless TV shows featuring actors the same age. Unlike the first three films which really were gratuitous. |
|
|
|
Post by Toph on Jul 16, 2014 20:37:19 GMT
This is not me approving of these scenes/shots.
The actors who play Tessa and Mikaela are both legal age.
In TF1 and AoE, their respective characters are both teenagers. The characters are both the same age.
I don't understand why people are MORE bothered by the oogle shots of Tessa because she's "underage," than they are/were of Mikaela. Especially when Mikaela's were more gratuitous.
Both characters are/were under age in their respective films. But I've seen a lot of people talk in multiple boards about how much worse it is now.
|
|
|
|
Post by Llama God on Jul 16, 2014 22:33:22 GMT
Yeah, as above, I don't think that the actual ogling is worse now. In fact, it's probably better than a lot of stuff. I just found the whole R+J thing to be questionable. (In that context. I'm no prude, I listen to a lot of rude stuff. But that's not in a film based on a toyline.)
And Bogatan, yeah, you make some fair points, and they're all logical arguments. As I say, I guess the whole problem for me is that it's never actually addressed in film or by any of the characters. I'm not saying I want everything spelled out for me - one of my favourite films this year is "Under The Skin", which spells out exactly nothing - it's just that there's a time and place for filling in blanks, and building up mystery, etc, and for my money (which wasn't much, thankfully - hurrah for my Cineworld card!) it was done badly in this film. And actually, it's exactly the same thing as they did with Shockwave in DotM (Look! Menacing baddie! Who does nothing other than own a giant robot worm. Oh well...). I just expected them to have learned...
But yeah, as with Shockprowl, I was hoping for something different, and this wasn't different enough. Or good enough, in my opinion. But maybe that's just me. Or maybe I'm just getting old and grumpy...
|
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Jul 16, 2014 23:49:52 GMT
I can't reconcile it. You're right CJ about all the ages. I suppose the difference is that the first film didn't draw specific attention to it, and there's also something in Megan Fox being that bit older at the time.
It's also personal I think. I was 33 when the first film came out, Megan Fox was 21. Now I'm 40 (ugh) and Nicole Peltz is 19. That's why it felt odd to me. The R&J stuff just accentuated it. My woe wasn't so much about gratuitous camera angles, more that it was the first time I'd watched a film and realised I was waay outside the target audience bracket for the love interest. Being told that by the film itself was a bit unnecessary.
Still waay inside though for the big stompy robots thankfully.
|
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Jul 16, 2014 23:52:20 GMT
God was she really called Tessa? I was hearing Carly through the whole thing. I assumed it was a G1 nod.
Deaf as well as old then.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 19:01:12 GMT
Sat in IMAX right now. T minus 5 minutes...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 22:58:35 GMT
It'll do.
|
|
primenova
Fusilateral Quintro Combiner
Posts: 6,057
|
Post by primenova on Nov 20, 2014 13:36:44 GMT
Anyone picked the AOE DVD up yet? I should have my copy in the post soon. So going by reviews AHM writer doesn't really like it but we have a new cast so that should make the film better. I'm waiting to watch it to see how things happen near the end because from all the reviews it seems to be missing something that you need to watch the film to understand.
|
|
primenova
Fusilateral Quintro Combiner
Posts: 6,057
|
Post by primenova on Nov 21, 2014 20:55:57 GMT
I've just finished watching the DVD. One thing to note is if you have watched the trailers for the film - events in the film are not in the order of the trailer which seems to hint that the ships arrive at the end of the films calling Prime to find the Dinobots. But that doesn't happen.
But I think I spotted an error near the end. During the part when Prime gets sword'ed by Lockdown we zoom out to Cade who is behind the wall with the sword on his own - but you see 2 people behind the wall.
|
|
|
|
Post by The Doctor on Nov 22, 2014 16:00:18 GMT
I see that the DVD appears to hail from the 'Interactive menus/Scene Access' era of special features. Will wait 'till it hits the £3 bins then.
-Ralph
|
|
|
|
Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 22, 2014 17:13:44 GMT
Disappointing.
Andy
|
|
|
|
Post by Bogatan on Nov 22, 2014 17:58:01 GMT
Got the Transforming case version from Target.
Transforming cases always make me happy.
|
|
primenova
Fusilateral Quintro Combiner
Posts: 6,057
|
Post by primenova on Nov 23, 2014 18:42:15 GMT
DVD are now videos & BR are the DVD's - with having all the extras.
|
|
|
|
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 4, 2014 16:03:10 GMT
Finally got round to watching AoE on Blu-Ray now I have a new blu-ray player.
Still overlong, but it's still the most enjoyable of the cinematic Transformers outings.
Andy
|
|
|
|
Post by The Doctor on Dec 4, 2014 18:05:05 GMT
Ahem! 1986 movie!!!
-Ralph
|
|
|
|
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 4, 2014 18:09:03 GMT
I of course meant the live-action cinematic offerings.
Andy
|
|
|
|
Post by The Doctor on Dec 4, 2014 18:13:20 GMT
Swift recovery.
-Ralph
|
|
primenova
Fusilateral Quintro Combiner
Posts: 6,057
|
Post by primenova on Mar 20, 2015 12:19:55 GMT
So TF4 made $21.192 million more than Lego Movie - how come TF4 had no awards. I guess it because MB was the director.
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 20, 2015 12:36:32 GMT
Because it was Pish?
Don't forget Lego got shunned at the Oscars! How that never got nominated for best animated I don't know!
|
|
primenova
Fusilateral Quintro Combiner
Posts: 6,057
|
Post by primenova on Mar 20, 2015 14:41:01 GMT
Agree with you there - that's with only seeing the trailers.
|
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Jan 31, 2016 17:02:18 GMT
Today has taken a rather unexpected turn. This morning the missus got up and declared, "It's about time we watched a film in 3D as we've had that new telly for almost a year." The 3dness of the telly was not a factor in buying it, and the attraction of viewing anything through polarized glasses on my part is zero, which is why I've never bothered.
But the weather's crap and so she decided to inspect my blu-ray collection for anything that would fit the bill. This totals three films that I bought with 3D discs included. Dredd, which she wasn't going near with a bargepole; Prometheus, same; and... yes, you're there ahead of me. Age. Of. Extinction.
Sigh. This is the first time I've watched this since the one trip to the cinema I made to see it. How can a film about transforming robots be so bloody awful? It's a really unnerving experience watching this with an unbeliever. I find myself continually making excuses that this isn't really what Transformers is about, and this isn't why I like them, but unbelievably she's enjoying it.
I called a time out at the 1 hour 45 mark for a tea break because I could take no more, and I remember the final hour of the film being the good bit. Pity me brothers, for I am back in the nightmare that was the 2014 film experience.
|
|
|
|
Post by blueshift on Jan 31, 2016 17:04:48 GMT
It's a really unnerving experience watching this with an unbeliever. I find myself continually making excuses that this isn't really what Transformers is about, and this isn't why I like them, but unbelievably she's enjoying it. I am so, so sorry Pinwig  |
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Jan 31, 2016 17:07:32 GMT
It's making me feel like I ought to disown my toys. I am not happy.
|
|
|
|
Post by blueshift on Jan 31, 2016 17:11:04 GMT
One minute domestic bliss, the next you are waving Stomp And Chomp Grimlock at your other half screaming "SEE! THIS IS WHAT YOU MADE HASBRO DO!!!!"
|
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Jan 31, 2016 21:08:13 GMT
Watching this in my own living room today made me realize how much it needs tightening. I know that's been said many times, but it doesn't need to be that long. You could cut at least half an hour from it and be none the wiser.
I also realized this time that the basic concept of Autobot vs Decepticon just doesn't happen in it. I can imagine after three films they were looking for a new direction, but that epic battle at the end is made pointless by the fact Hound's stand off is against a bunch of voiceless drones.
All that aside though, it left me wondering exactly what the Dinobots are. Has that been answered? We have this notion that Prime is one of an elite class of knights, but are the Dinobots members too? And if they have dinosaur forms, were they on Earth at the time of the Dinosaurs to assume those forms? Did Lockdown hoover them up from Earth in the past, or from another planet that has Dinosaurs? Is that actually explained anywhere?
|
|
|
|
Post by legios on Jan 31, 2016 22:28:19 GMT
A) Don't think so
B) Dunno
C) Dunno
D) Dunno
E) Don't think so
But I had heard it rumoured that they were pulled forward at some point to be in the film as opposed to being set-up for the film after, so I wouldn't be surprised if the early scene with the English scientist and the metallised dinosaur skeleton might not have tied into their origin at some point. (Her abrupt disappearance from the film may reflect shed story elements somewhere along the line). But I am only speculating.
Karl
|
|
|
|
Post by Toph on Feb 2, 2016 2:49:04 GMT
I don't quite understand the hate AoE gets. It's leaps and bounds better than the horror show of RotF, and the unfollowable, incoherent mess of DotM.
It actually addressed most (if not all) of the major complaints everyone had with the previous three:
-Transformers as actual characters, with actual personalities.
-A focus on Transformers as the main characters, over an overblown and overfocused human cast.
-No American Military blowjobs.
-Designs that are visually understandable, and recognizable between robots on screen, and don't actually look skeletal.
-No humor based on stereotyping races or classes.
-No excessive amounts of robo-gore.
-A story that's actually followable.
Is it a great movie? Nope. But unlike the last two, I neither felt angry, nor like I waisted my money. And it actually made me want to rewatch the first one, which I haven't seen since ROTF destroyed this section of the franchise.
The movie could have been a LOT better, but it also pretty successfully salvages the trainwreck, while setting up a direction that's genuinely interesting for future movies.
As an added bonus, and this is shocking given that it's Michael Bay:
-The Dinosaurs (both real, and dinobots) are significantly more realistic and accurate than the entirety of Jurassic World. And there's virtually no awesomebro in if.
|
|
|
|
Post by Benn on Feb 2, 2016 22:14:58 GMT
-No humor based on stereotyping races or classes. Drift says "Hi." Or, "Konichi wa" |
|
|
|
Post by Toph on Feb 2, 2016 23:08:03 GMT
You can feel that way if you wish, but Drift was based on actual samurai armor. The masks, included.   IMO, it's no different than basing a TF's design on a knight's armor. They also didn't make a joke out of it. At no point was he presented as something we're supposed to point and laugh at. That's quite a bit different than the designs that actively make fun of appearances, as the Twins or the Wreckers. Every autobot fit the general Knight/Warrior theme. Optimus- Knight. Every bit of him was a stylized Knight armor. Battlemask included. Drift- Samurai. Same. Hound- American Army Soldier Crosshairs- WWII Pilot (British RAF influence I believe?) Bumblebee- Ninja. |
|
|
|
Post by Baron B of Triple B on Feb 3, 2016 16:42:33 GMT
Of course you've got a clearly non-Irish actor playing an Irish character who Wahlberg spends the film calling Lucky Charms.
|
|
