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Post by Toph on Jan 15, 2015 22:17:19 GMT
Dinobots were either confirmed dead or lost, I can't remember which.
Sunstreaker, Mirage, Wheeljack were confirmed dead.
I believe basically any 84/85 autobot car we didn't get when they were on their reissue spree, no longer exists.
Soundwave was confirmed dead, but Takara saw fit to reverse engineer a g1 toy and recreate it.
Hasbro will *not* recreate a destroyed mold. I think they feel they would rather design a new version from scratch, if they're going to go through all that.
This is probably why we haven't gotten reissue dinobots. The Japanese never gave two shits about the dinobots (mp grimlock's apron/tray shows how little they think of him), and likely don't want to spend the time and resources to recreate them.
And Hasbro just flat out won't.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 15, 2015 22:28:20 GMT
I've got some recollection that Hound was reversed engineered too: he didn't feature in the convention/toys how reissue line in the early 2000s. I'll try and dig out an image of that.... Here we go: heroicdecepticon.blogspot.co.uk/2008/01/ehobby-goodness-hk-08.htmlLess in it than I thought. All the reissues involved are ones which toy could get multiples from the same basic mould. |
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Post by kayevcee on Jan 15, 2015 23:35:00 GMT
Yup. I completed my Strike Planes lineup from that range, plus Ratchet and Ironhide. As with the Encore release those two were the cheapest in the after-market, while Sideswipe & Red Alert and Trailbreaker & Hoist commanded 3-4 times the price. Crazy days.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 16, 2015 0:07:02 GMT
MP Grimlock had the tray/apron as a nice nod to cartoon fans. I fail to see how that infers any bad feelings from the toy company about the character considering how popular Sunbow is with the customer fanbase.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Jan 16, 2015 2:15:02 GMT
Okay, board ate my lengthy and detailed post on the japanese views of the dinobots. I want to cry now after 15 minutes of typing on a friggin iphone.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 16, 2015 8:02:00 GMT
I'd clear your cache, sounds like you might be having a similar problem to what Ralph and I had with our iOS devices.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 16, 2015 8:57:20 GMT
This is the image I was thinking of  From the original Generations book |
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Post by Toph on Jan 16, 2015 17:50:11 GMT
I'd clear your cache, sounds like you might be having a similar problem to what Ralph and I had with our iOS devices. No, it was my fault. I said board instead of safari, which gave the wrong impression. I left safari to check a text, and when I came back it automatically reloaded the reply page, erasing everything I'd written. It does it so infrequently that I don't remember it until it's too late. |
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Post by Toph on Jan 16, 2015 22:37:08 GMT
For reasons unknown to me, the dinobots just aren't popular in japan. They seem to regard them similarly to how western audiences tend to regard Wheelie, and other lesser desired transformers.
Where as in the west, the dinobots were among the few to only characters to stay relevant in fiction through the entire course of the franchise. All the way from their origins, through to the very end of G2. Even during times there were no toys to promote. Grimlock got as many toys as Optimus Prime until g2, thanks to his popularity here. Very very few characters ever got more than one toy.
In japan, they weren't very popular at all, and were dropped as soon as the toys were no longer around to be advertized.
(As an example, if dinoforce was a thing here, the dinobots would have been brought in to be their rivals, with or without toys.)
So, given all the accessory choices Takara could have given mp Grimlock, I think the fact that they gave him an apron and serving tray is pretty telling.
The Crown and Sword (or was it his gun? One was omitted in lue of the apron/tray) were made specifically for the western fans (similarly to the G2 guns for sideswipe), and probably at the request of Hasbro.
I could be misremembering, but I even believe Hasbro said at a botcon that Takara was the biggest stumbling block over getting an MP Grimlock made.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 29, 2015 17:23:18 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 29, 2015 20:10:11 GMT
I don't have Blaster or Perceptor so I'll be pushing the boat out for those to go on my 85 shelf. Hope they're not too overpriced given the Insecticon situation. Wonder why we're getting a sudden rush of these. The encore line was much slower. It'd be nice too if they'd move on from the obvious and do some headmasters.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 26, 2015 11:59:02 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 26, 2015 12:49:06 GMT
Hooray for crazy recolours.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 26, 2015 12:56:41 GMT
The world is a better place for them.
Andy
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Post by Llama God on Feb 26, 2015 13:03:38 GMT
Wait, what? I've been drinking over lunch, sure, but I didn't think I'd had *that* much...
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 26, 2015 13:51:19 GMT
They're ghastly!
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Post by Dezzeh on Feb 26, 2015 14:02:39 GMT
Dat Astrotain!
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 26, 2015 14:51:39 GMT
Never been a fan of Blitzwing, but then I have never had a minty fresh from box one. Astrotrain on the other hand I've always liked. Love the colours.
Were the Insecticons in crazy colours too?
I hope Trypticon has gone G2 and Blaster and tapes too.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 26, 2015 15:22:59 GMT
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Post by Kingoji on Feb 26, 2015 17:20:35 GMT
Blitzwing in Flywheels colours? Gives me hope for the Generations version that really should have happened already I mean come on.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 26, 2015 19:20:10 GMT
Oh are those supposed to be Flywheels' colours?
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 26, 2015 22:04:56 GMT
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 26, 2015 22:08:58 GMT
Blitzwing in Flywheels colours? Gives me hope for the Generations version that really should have happened already I mean come on. It does seem like some one at Hasbro has either gotten confused by fan demands or has just pissed of by them and this is his/her/their fuck you to the haters. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 4, 2015 15:11:51 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Mar 4, 2015 16:01:14 GMT
Mehsaywhatnow..? *tries not to hope*
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Post by Dezzeh on Mar 4, 2015 16:42:38 GMT
Waiting for the official word on that one.
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Post by kayevcee on Mar 4, 2015 16:52:51 GMT
Toy-fu usually has plenty of Dinobots. I'm glad to learn of this before I've bought too much in!
-Nick
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 4, 2015 17:26:19 GMT
Here's hoping for not Astrotrain/Blitzwing mentalness on these. By all means do an AOE coloured set, just get the proper ones out first.
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 4, 2015 18:41:21 GMT
No no heres hoping for platinum madness. Dinobots in Technobot colours me thinks.
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Post by duffism1981 on Mar 4, 2015 19:16:21 GMT
Toy-fu usually has plenty of Dinobots. I'm glad to learn of this before I've bought too much in! -Nick Toy-Fu has am MP Grimlock coming their way. |
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