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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 28, 2022 19:00:46 GMT
Oh yeah, Marvel used to keep Inventory issues on file "Just In Case" something happened. Sometimes they'd get used, others not. Sometimes they'd pop out of the woodwork a few years later.....
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 28, 2022 19:05:30 GMT
Oh it gets madder than that. At a couple of points Marvel UK SW is printing US inventory issues, not used there, and strips *BEFORE* the US publishes them. That's why there's a big run of original UK material at one point.... and why the main strip is somewhat behind when Jedi hits! For the SW fun see tmukhub.proboards.com/post/304611/thread and posts below. Make sure you get as far as the table and read the explanation behind 53 & 54 |
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 28, 2022 19:24:32 GMT
I will have a read.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 28, 2022 19:41:39 GMT
Oh yeah, Marvel used to keep Inventory issues on file "Just In Case" something happened. Sometimes they'd get used, others not. Sometimes they'd pop out of the woodwork a few years later..... You'd have thought stuff like that would be made more of a thing of these days. Imagine a whole new original TF comic from the mid 80s coming to light. That would be amazing. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 28, 2022 19:49:31 GMT
IIRC that's how Big Broadcast of 2006 came about, and the use of the U.K. issues.
I think they planned, or possibly did and junked, another cartoon adaptation
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 28, 2022 20:58:57 GMT
The Love Bug by Peter David, William Johnson and Kyle Baker was lost - that's why Plight of the Bumblebee happened.
Dweller in the Depths was done but not published.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 28, 2022 21:36:08 GMT
Ah that was it, I remember some pages from Dweller turned up a few years back.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 28, 2022 21:38:18 GMT
Oh yeah, Marvel used to keep Inventory issues on file "Just In Case" something happened. Sometimes they'd get used, others not. Sometimes they'd pop out of the woodwork a few years later..... Or end up in Marvel Fanfare towards the end... |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 28, 2022 21:39:42 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 28, 2022 23:36:41 GMT
I seem to recall some pages of Omega Supreme dreaming he was human popped up, from an unkown inventory issue.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 28, 2022 23:38:40 GMT
It occurs to me there is mileage in 'completing' the lost Dwellers in the Deep issue. Like when an unfinished Stan and Jack FF issue was completed and released many years after the fact.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 19, 2022 9:33:02 GMT
Also imagine a world where Zoids found a home in Transformers instead of going the way of the dodo... I think being from different Licensors probably put paid to that. Almost all the other properties in TF Backup strips were Hasbro (GIJoe, Inhumanoids, Visionaries) The only exception that comes to mind is Robotix and that was MB .... were they owned by Hasbro then? |
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Post by Jaymz on Sept 19, 2022 9:40:02 GMT
Yeah, Hasbro bought MB in 84, Robotix ran in the UK comic in 86.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 19, 2022 10:31:33 GMT
I think being from different Licensors probably put paid to that. Almost all the other properties in TF Backup strips were Hasbro (GIJoe, Inhumanoids, Visionaries) The only exception that comes to mind is Robotix and that was MB .... were they owned by Hasbro then? Actually that's a question I don't think has ever been put to Furman, regarding the back up strips - AF is different that's from the exciting news for readers school, but the choices of back up, did Hasbro have a say in them at all, or request specific ones. Because the back up strips are a fair grab bag of things when looked at as a whole. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 19, 2022 12:12:39 GMT
We have extensively looked at BackUp strips in the past: tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/7851/tfuk-back-stripsPlanet Terry is representative at the attempt at juniorisation over the entire Marvel UK line in 85 Rocket Racoon & Hercules (and Machine Man 2020 - see below) are earlyish limited series from Marvel and we've previously speculated that they're left overs from Mighty World of Marvel's attempts to print as many US Limited Series as possible (letter column, MWOM 4) Spitfire looks like it was mandated from on high from Marvel US to promote New Universe, Spider-Man and Zoids ran Starbrand at the same time for a similar number of issues. In fact they probably disappeared right at the point that Jim Shooter was fired.... Robotix, GI Joe, Inhumanoids and Visionaries will all be existing Hasbro properties that Marvel US had licensed. Inhumanoids is the interesting one as I don't think that toyline got a wide UK distribution - I saw some of the human figures sale price ONCE in Woolworths. Machine Man probably got picked off the shelf because Marvel UK had it already and it was vaguely appropriate. Machine Man 2020 would have been a continuation on from that and an intersection with the MWOM "print all the limited series" buy mentioned above. Iron Man probably span out of that, but it was also probably sitting on Marvel UK's shelf as a lot of Marvel Fanfare had been published in Spider-Man weekly a few years previously prior to it's juniorisation tmukhub.proboards.com/post/305104/threadThat then establishes Iron Man as a Go To when there's nothing else |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 19, 2022 14:57:00 GMT
I don't think chalking them up solely to MWOM's approach is all that reliable - you have different editorial staff by that point anda good year and a bit between MWOM's shuffling off the mortal coil and the strips appearing in TF. Also to say nothing of the fact there were plenty of Marvel limited series - why pick the ones in question?
And given that MWOM tanked, you are hardly going to follow in their footsteps if you can avoid it.
Yes, Spitfire and Star Brand you can chalk up to Shooter.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 19, 2022 16:27:29 GMT
I'm saying the staff at MWOM, aware that regular Marvel US output was easy to get in the UK by that point, put in an over enthusiastic bulk order for limited series, which weren't, with Marvel US. Marvel UK then ended up with a load sitting on the shelves when MWOM went under MWOM's last issue is October 1984 comicvine.gamespot.com/the-mighty-world-of-marvel/4050-3232/Here's a list of the Marvel Limited Series from when they started doing them regularly to what I believe is the last MU LS published in the UK. (There are three later ones published but all are TF related) The list is in order by start date and starts from books cover dated September 1982, the month both Wolverine & Hercules started www.mikesamazingworld.com/mikes/features/newsstand.php?publisher=marvel&type=cover&month=9&year=1982&sort=alphaTitles reprinted in the UK are followed with the name of which title they went in. Titles not reprinted in the UK are marked with an * Wolverine - MWOM Hercules - Transformers Vision & Scarlet Witch - MWOM Cloak & Dagger - MWOM * Hawkeye ROTJ - Star Wars * Falcon Magik - MWOM/Conan * Jack of Hearts X-Men/Micronauts - MWOM * Hercules II Secret Wars - Secret Wars * Tarzan of the Apes Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - Spider-Man * Prince Namor, the Sub-Mariner Transformers - Transformers * West Coast Avengers Last Starfighter - Spider-Man (MWOM FINISHES THAT MONTH) Machine Man 2020 - Transformers * Kitty Pryde & Wolverine * Muppets take Manhattem * Starriors * Beauty & The Beast Iceman - Secret Wars * Sheena * 2010 Rocket Racoon - Transformers * Gargoyle Secret Wars II - Secret Wars |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 19, 2022 16:38:55 GMT
I don't think chalking them up solely to MWOM's approach is all that reliable - you have different editorial staff by that point anda good year and a bit between MWOM's shuffling off the mortal coil and the strips appearing in TF. Also to say nothing of the fact there were plenty of Marvel limited series - why pick the ones in question? Seeing it laid out like above reinforces my opinion that Hercules was on the shelf at Marvel UK and since it had some space sci fi content..... I'm less sure now about Rocket Racoon & Machine Man though it's still possible. The space/sci fi content would have led to them being picked over other material, with Machine Man's links to the previous back up strip helping it's case. |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 19, 2022 20:55:37 GMT
Less cheese for you before bed, Phil.
-Ralph
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Post by Jaymz on Sept 20, 2022 0:29:42 GMT
I would say you're overthinking it Phil. Saw this on the wiki about back up strips:
"...anything, in truth, that featured a robot or someone in an iron suit”
—Editorial in Titan Books "The Legacy of Unicron" trade
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 20, 2022 4:55:17 GMT
Yes. Even with the initial outing of Action Force, they picked a story full of B.A.T.s.
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 20, 2022 9:21:55 GMT
It was the intro story that featured the largest number of UK87 characters www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe44.shtmlFirst Appearance of Heavy Metal, Airtight, Bazooka, Crank-Case. Plus major roll for Lady Jaye It's also a very light issue for continuity/running story for the time |
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