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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 7, 2015 23:50:06 GMT
Maybe it's such a highbrow, intellectual film that only those with science PhDs can appreciate its glorious slightly-above-mediocrity. Martin Exactly dear chap, exactly. Another cigar, what what? |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 8, 2015 10:28:36 GMT
Did you wear a white coat to watch the film?
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 8, 2015 14:40:39 GMT
Real Scientists generally don't. That's why neither Martin nor I normally do. {Spoiler}And how you know the MRI scene is total nonsense! |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 8, 2015 17:39:48 GMT
Phil...
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 8, 2015 17:58:59 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 8, 2015 20:22:58 GMT
Those were exceptional circumstances when I had to pander to a Genisys hating public.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 8, 2015 21:46:08 GMT
Genisys was still in production then!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 8, 2015 22:43:31 GMT
sexy white-coated mother-hubber....
How can I stay mad at that...?
EAT SHIT MICHEAL BAY!!!
*ahem* I mean-
EAT SHIT TERIMINATOR GENISYS!!!
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Post by legios on Jul 9, 2015 20:55:43 GMT
Doing wonders with a very underpowered script, and almost overcoming the fact that she seems woefully miscast. I like Emilia Clark, I think she's a good actress with a real screen presence when she gets a chance to show it. But unfortunately the same slightness of form which makes her so effective in "Game of Thrones" feels like it works against her here - for me she is the least convincing of the three Sarah's in terms of "I've spent X years preparing to prevent The End and for what comes after if I fail". Linda Hamilton in "Terminator 2" convincingly looks like she has been preparing physically, Lena Heady was convincing as someone prepared to do absolutely anything necessary but bearing the weight of setting aside morality. Physically I think Clark looks too fragile, and I don't think that the script gives her enough to work with to sell the absolute determination that was needed to make the character work in the absence of the physicality. It is a shame, I think she is a very watchable actress, I just don't think she had a chance to be a really good Sarah Connor. I also find myself rather saddened by the lack of any real thematic weight to the film. There is no real equivalent to The Terminators sense of the crushing inevitability of a fixed destiny, nor even Terminator 2's "if you thought you could change the inevitable what would you be prepared to do, and if you can't then what does it matter what you do?". Now neither of these are particularly deep and meaningful, but they are given a little more than lip service. By contrast it feels like Genisys is throwing out things as asides - literally in one case, where a character throws something that could have pervaded the whole last act out as a haphazard line and the rest of the film basically ignores it. The action sequences also had two of my least-favourite aspects to them - the obsession with never having a stationary camera, and the prevalence of rather overblown CG gags which gives the whole affair a rather cartoonish feel. Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 9, 2015 21:42:14 GMT
Yes, but did you enjoy the Terminator truck drivers in the nightmare future?
*rummmmmm rummmmmm*
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 10, 2015 6:19:30 GMT
for me she is the least convincing of the three Sarah's in terms of "I've spent X years preparing to prevent The End and for what comes after if I fail". This is a different person from that one. This is a person who has been raised by a Terminator, is not a mother, has not been in love (her only friend in most of her life has been a Terminator!), knows first hand that the future is not set and can be changed, and basically finds everything Terminator-ish quite normal. She has no real concept of 'normal' as the other Sarah Connor did. Because of her upbringing she considers a Terminator to be a family member and has no overall anti-robot sentiments. Almost a completely different person. Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 10, 2015 7:59:02 GMT
I would expect such a person to have a much more dynamic personality though. Or indeed much of a personality at all. Ho ho !
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 10, 2015 9:35:12 GMT
It's the old nature/nurture thing isn't it? Can one Sarah Connor really be so different from the other Sarah Connor?
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 10, 2015 12:15:25 GMT
Yes. Theoretically. But wrong actress for the role I felt.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 13, 2015 17:42:55 GMT
I have managed to break many minds with the 'revelation' of what the Genisys in this film is, usually followed by swearing and/or guffawing.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 13, 2015 22:32:39 GMT
YOU'RE SKYNET!!!!!!
OH #@%&£#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 14, 2015 20:02:14 GMT
Just back from watching this.
I enjoyed it immensely, better than 3 and 4 and I agree with Martin's appreciation of Emilia Clarke.
Though Jai Courtney is a plank.
Andy
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 14, 2015 22:51:17 GMT
*punches sky(net)*
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 15, 2015 15:14:15 GMT
I also liked the MRI scene!
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 15, 2015 16:21:19 GMT
Have an honorary doctorate, sir.
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 15, 2015 23:40:14 GMT
Have an honorary doctorate, sir. Martin Why thank you. Andy |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 16, 2015 14:32:30 GMT
Welcome, Doctor.
Until now I was always against honorary degrees but as it is so well deserved in this case... *flips white coat across Andy's shoulders*
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 16, 2015 19:48:38 GMT
*Blows Raspberry at all those who like Terminator: Genisys, although secretly becomes concerned he actually might be missing something here*
EAT &£$% MICHEAL BAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 16, 2015 20:37:56 GMT
Once you have seen it then can ye judge.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Jul 16, 2015 20:39:45 GMT
Indeed - I'd say see the film and make up your own mind, always my advice to those who ask whether they should see something or not.
Karl
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 6, 2017 21:33:17 GMT
Video interview with Tim Miller and James Cameron regarding the new Terminator movie.
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Post by primenova on Nov 16, 2017 20:26:19 GMT
I liked Terminator 5 compared to 3 & 4. Did search Terminator Matt Smith while watching it to find out about the character. Then saw stuff about it not making much money in the US - but made loads in the UK. Then not sure if Matt Smith Skynet is going to return & that Skynet is {Spoiler}from another timeline |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 16, 2017 22:00:56 GMT
I suspect Skynet will forever stay in that cave.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 16, 2017 22:07:53 GMT
Liz saw Genisys for the first time the other night on TV and enjoyed it.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 16, 2017 22:11:24 GMT
Even the ending where it is revealed Skynet is hiding in a cave?
-Ralph
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