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Post by The Doctor on Sept 27, 2009 10:45:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2009 17:58:52 GMT
I love the insignia almost blending into the door  |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 27, 2009 18:43:07 GMT
Cool!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 27, 2009 21:53:30 GMT
Splendid.
Andy
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Post by Stomski on Sept 28, 2009 8:41:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2009 12:08:39 GMT
Rumble?
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Post by primenova on Oct 27, 2009 13:59:08 GMT
Which combiners have fake heads for use in connection to body as legs or arm
Fake heads -
Street wise has the red one under the bonnet.
Light Speed as the white one on under side of car.
Blast Off - top of shuttle.
Vortex - chest area.
Not sure about Brawl - does his head swing under the front of the tank?
Ones that dont have fake heads & use the normal head for both arm & leg connect -
Blades, Firstaid, Groove [tricky for legs], Swindle, Afterburner, Nosecone, Fireflight, Dead end, Break down, Overbite, Constructicons [G1 & Universe]
{that covers all the limbs that me & my friends had}
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Post by grahamthomson on Oct 27, 2009 14:08:29 GMT
The Seacons also had additional "heads" which swung out.
Out of interest, how many limbs did you and your friends collect over the years?
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Post by primenova on Oct 27, 2009 15:11:11 GMT
Its was only the above - with just Hotspot for the body. The Constructicons being the knockoff set i picked up - but also include the Universe 99p ones seeing they still combine - but they dont use heads to link themselves together - you can say the same for the Constructicons who dont use heads - mainly due to them all have slide away heads.
But Overbite's head folded down for use as arm/gun - or stayed up for leg. Didn't have any other seacons.
My friend was too busy with his PM Optimus Prime, High Brow & Hardhead.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2009 19:50:14 GMT
doesnt Afterburn have a false head on the back part of his bike mode? I used to have him, and I'm sure I saw that (or i'm crazy)
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 27, 2009 20:09:35 GMT
False heads???
I...I don't understand.
-Ralph
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2009 20:12:41 GMT
like those with heads, plus a fold out bit on the back or something to allow for arm combination form
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Post by legios on Oct 27, 2009 20:18:53 GMT
False heads??? I...I don't understand. -Ralph Basically, some of the Scramble City combiner limbs have two distinct of connectors. One that the head forms the end of and one that is just a box shape that slots into the hole on the torso robot. (It isn't really a case of their being two heads on any of them as there are no moulded details or anything on the second connectors - they are just oblongs of plastic basically). Karl |
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Post by Nigel on Oct 27, 2009 20:57:06 GMT
'Nova, I think you might be the only person who calls the posts, "heads".
Brawl has one. It's on his underside, hidden by his chest in robot mode.
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 27, 2009 21:27:12 GMT
I was thinking about this a while ago and all the combiner talk reminded me. How many possible combinations of Scramble City gestaults can be made?
Limbs
4 Arerialbots
4 Protectorbots
4 Stunticons
4 Combaticons
4 Technobots
4Terrorcons
5 Seacons
So 29 limbs on 7 different bodies. Thats gotta be a crazy number of combinations. Anyone remember how to do the maths?
If you take repaints it must get utterly bonkers (not including classics and reissues)
8 Arerialbots
12 Protectorbots
5 Stunticons
20 Combaticons (at least)
4 Technobots
4 Terrorcons
14 Seacons
67 limbs, 15 bodies. Am I missing any?
Andy
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Post by primenova on Oct 28, 2009 13:21:24 GMT
They're are the same shape has the heads [if anyone used stickers on them. Didn't some have head stickers - or was that just Starscream] I know they are different sizes, but if anyone had but a face on them - but if anyone has ever tried connecting them up to 2 leaders at the same time.
Only had Light speed so don't know if the others had other fold out parts.
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Post by primenova on Oct 28, 2009 13:32:31 GMT
Also remember to have Seacon set hands so you can have one for a gun too [maybe not a Seacon? If anyone makes a gun from the others]
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Post by grahamthomson on Nov 3, 2009 8:10:42 GMT
It's probably more combinations that any sane fanboy could complete in one lifetime.
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Post by Benn on Nov 3, 2009 9:04:23 GMT
Is that a challenge?
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 3, 2009 10:01:40 GMT
Just tried working out all the combinations for a single team, I got to 24. 15 different scramble teams. So its already 360 before you even start mixing and matching.
Is it possible there are more combinations than toy produced? Certainly for the TFCC Seacons at 1250 or 2000 and Botcon Breakdown at 300 or something.
Andy
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Post by grahamthomson on Nov 3, 2009 10:12:54 GMT
Okay, some maths.
If there are 67 limbs, then for _each_ body there would be 67*66*65... and so on (or the factorial of 67) combinations.
That number is 3.64711109 × 10^94
And if there are 15 bodies, multiply the above by 15.
To get 5.47066664 × 10^95
If we assume it takes one minute to re-arrange and pause to reflect briefly on each toy combination (providing the limbs and bodies are "ready").
It would take you 1.04084221 × 10^90 years.
We don't live that long.
My maths is probably up the wazoo, as it's been many years since I did factorials at school, so I've probably applied it incorrectly. But it's a start!
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Post by Stomski on Nov 3, 2009 10:36:20 GMT
Isn't it 67! - 63! as there are only 4 limbs per combiner.
This assumes that having a limb in one position is the same as having it in another, e.g. left-arm->right-leg.
Also... This doesn't include using different accessories, like heads/feet/fists on different combined forms, but I'll let your brain dribble out of your ears when you consider that.
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Post by grahamthomson on Nov 3, 2009 10:45:28 GMT
Isn't it 67! - 63! as there are only 4 limbs per combiner. Ah, of course. So we've got 67! combinations to go into 4 spaces. I can't do that maths. Also... This doesn't include using different accessories, like heads/feet/fists on different combined forms, but I'll let your brain dribble out of your ears when you consider that. I can taste pennies. |
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 3, 2009 10:51:14 GMT
Actually I think it is 63 as the Protectorbots only got one repaint. I was including G2. Seacons got 5 limb-bots in two releases and only four in the other. Botcon 94 had G2 Breakdown.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 19, 2010 14:37:15 GMT
Best combined TF team member robot mode? Yeah it's a long title but let me explain.....
A replacement ROTF Superion arrived today so I got to swap out my damaged Airazor for a replacement.
After I did this I transformed Airazor into robot mode. Hey this is quite good think I.....
Which got me thinking....
If you're like me your Gestalt style combiners - Devastator, any Scramble City/Special Team, Monstructor/Dino King, Micromaster & Energon combiners - probably spend most of their time in combined mode. But which component of these is the best individual robot ?
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Post by Dark Stranger on Jun 19, 2010 15:31:59 GMT
Interesting question! Hmm. On first thoughts, I always loved Snap Trap. I thought he was really well proportioned, nice colours, and cool accessories. and his mouth opened nicely in beast mode and the pom-pom gun action was great. He looks great in robot mode too.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 19, 2010 15:43:08 GMT
If you're like me your Gestalt style combiners - Devastator, any Scramble City/Special Team, Monstructor/Dino King, Micromaster & Energon combiners - probably spend most of their time in combined mode. Not me. I keep my Constructicons separated, and actually think they'd stand up pretty well as toys of that size and era even if they couldn't combine with one another. I think Scavenger is my favourite, due to his articulated scoop arm and rotating top half vehicle mode... and the way you can put his big silver drill either on the top of the vehicle or attached to the front, the latter making him an articulated drill vehicle thing. Oh! And he can replace the drill with a giant purple fist that he can fire at his enemies! Robot mode isn't too bad either. Plenty of chrome. Still, I'm sure toy technology has moved on in the centuries since I stopped collecting. Martin |
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Post by Kingoji on Jun 19, 2010 15:48:40 GMT
Hun-Grr!
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Post by Dark Stranger on Jun 19, 2010 16:11:17 GMT
Yeah, Hun-Grr's a great toy too, fantastic looking in robot mode.
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Post by legios on Jun 19, 2010 21:53:43 GMT
Hmmm. I own fewer combiners than I used to but of those I have owned I would have to say that I am rather partial to Onslaught/Dolrailer/Mega-Octane. He has a great silhouette in humanoid mode, with the twin cannon reaching up over his head, good proportions and, all things considered, decent poseability for his era.
Karl
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