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Post by The Doctor on Mar 31, 2015 11:36:41 GMT
Transformers has always been an expensive line. I suspect these figures are based on the rise of the Poundland-based toy shoppers. Ralph, remember how many hits your youtube videos reviewing Poundland toys used to get. -Nick I remember the amount of abuse I got from youtube commentators which is why I stopped. Well that and creepy PM's from 'a fan'. -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 31, 2015 11:40:20 GMT
CW shelf-warms badly in Edinburger. The price-points may not be helping so a cheaper line may sell better perhaps.
-Ralph
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Post by Stomski on Mar 31, 2015 12:37:55 GMT
I remember the amount of abuse I got from youtube commentators which is why I stopped. Well that and creepy PM's from 'a fan'. ...Yeah sorry about that. I won't do it again.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 2, 2015 21:28:13 GMT
Ah Ralph and his fans.
His irish one at 2D was comedy gold.
Andy
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Post by nevermore on Apr 3, 2015 10:59:33 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 11, 2015 17:54:12 GMT
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Post by nevermore on Apr 11, 2015 19:59:48 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Apr 11, 2015 20:44:14 GMT
Damn. Wish I'd not looked at the pics of Megatron, with the TFW poster pointing out that his Cyber Series head makes a much better MTMTE Megs. Damn damn damn.
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 11, 2015 21:18:59 GMT
Yeah, but these seven inch figures are retailing for $15, which is only four dollars more than the current price of the legends scale. These are not going to be good toys. As someone mentioned on tfw2005, Hasbro are now producing oversized knock offs of their own toys...
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Post by Llama God on Apr 11, 2015 21:36:35 GMT
$15, eh? There could be customisation options in the near future.
Well. There would be if I had any actual skill at customising.
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 11, 2015 23:14:23 GMT
Good idea. Could be fun to have a go. The Starscream might pass muster on the generations shelf with a few extra paint apps and if the null rays can attach in the right place.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 21, 2015 6:35:10 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Apr 21, 2015 10:00:39 GMT
Damn. Yeah, it's cheap-looking, but it's also actually cheap, and chunky. I'd be tempted, if only it had knees...
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 21, 2015 10:18:53 GMT
It has an AM Elite vibe to it. Hmmm.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Apr 21, 2015 10:31:25 GMT
I don't think it is too bad, all things considered. As a "lower costs" option to try to penetrate markets that the other lines just aren't competitive in it is a better looking toy than it could have been. I am amused to see that, whilst I understand those who are annoyed by it's lack of knees, folk in general seem not to notice it has something most more expensive Transformers lack - ankle swivels. This may be a Prime for whom sitting is a problem, and he isn't going to be practicing Mek Ti anytime soon, but he is all set up for some Ti Kwan Do. :-)
Karl
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Post by Llama God on Apr 21, 2015 11:08:43 GMT
Yeah, I'd actually noticed the foot swivels myself, and was quite puzzled. But I agree, it's not a bad "lower cost" option at all. And infinitely better than those piece of shit Titan Warriors...
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Post by Bogatan on Apr 21, 2015 11:32:42 GMT
I don't mind it, its just taking the same approach as Transformers took for a long time, only articulation needed for Transformation. I doubt most kids will notice the absence when its getting them a pretty nice looking 7 inch Optimus Prime.
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Post by Llama God on Apr 21, 2015 12:23:37 GMT
But... But... TRANSFORMERS ARE NOT FOR CHILDREN!!!!!!!!1!
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 21, 2015 16:34:51 GMT
I DEMAND A THIRD PARTY VERSION!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 26, 2015 22:08:57 GMT
Cyber Bumblebee
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 12, 2015 19:47:38 GMT
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Post by Toph on May 12, 2015 19:54:46 GMT
I swear, if these things had just basic articulation, I'd be all over them as they look pretty neat for their price range.
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Post by Llama God on May 12, 2015 21:37:48 GMT
Don't swear, it's rude.
But what do you mean? It does look like they have basic articulation. A lot of them are missing knees, but the Battalion Series Prime has elbows and a waist swivel (and how many main-line toys have been missing waist swivels in recent times..?). Sure, it's not great, but at £9-ish they're only a bit more expensive than the £7 that the Legends-size Legends are being sold for (at least initially - they end up getting reduced pretty quick, for some reason), and given the increased size, they seem to be much better value for money. I think that these would actually go down pretty well with kids...
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Post by Toph on May 12, 2015 21:55:51 GMT
Basic articulation: Shoulders, elbows, hips, knees, neck. All these are required on large toys.
Appreciate, but not nessisary: Bicep, waist, thigh, ankle, wrist.
The smaller a toy is, the less required articulation becomes. Legion figures don't bother me that they don't have knees or elbows, so long as they have shoulders and hips.
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Post by Llama God on May 12, 2015 22:05:39 GMT
I don't disagree that those things make a toy better, but for kids... I'd say less so. I mean, just look at one of my favourite of the original G1-toys - Powermaster Optimus Prime. Both robot modes have a stunning total of two point of articulation. That's it. (Yeah, the smaller robot mode legs do bend, but not in any meaningful way. He can sit on a chair. Yay.) And that didn't prevent me from loving it.
But, of course, your own mileage may vary.
The one thing I do find disappointing, actually, is the lack of accessories. Although, again, if it's for the kids, having now acquired one of my own, I also understand that in general there's no real point to accessories anyway. Unless you really enjoy pulling annoying bits of plastic out of the sofa/hoover/washing machine/bottom of your foot/etc...
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 12, 2015 22:21:32 GMT
Basic articulation: Shoulders, elbows, hips, knees, neck. All these are required on large toys. Appreciate, but not nessisary: Bicep, waist, thigh, ankle, wrist. That's your position but I'd have to disagree. How many of your toys are posed on the shelf in anything other than a standing straight position? And based on that Armada Megatron and Tidal Wave aren't up to scratch as toys. Leg articulation isn't so important, especially if it somehow hinders the balance of the toy. Arms are much more important to me. I'd happily loose the legs and the neck for a waist and biceps.
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Post by Toph on May 12, 2015 22:41:50 GMT
Armada Megs and Tidal Wave also do a ton of other stuff that help alleviate the lack of knees. But yeah, they would be ten times better with knees.
As for display, yeah. I do pose them when space allows. While this isn't TF, I have a good chunk of DCUC in poses, like Flash running, Robin in combat, Batman dynamically posed about to launch off with his grapple. (TFs are too crouded) But it's not about display posing- it's about actually fiddling with them. I don't put them on a shelf to never touch again... I get them doen and fiddle with them fow hours as I watch TV, or tool around on the computer.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 12, 2015 23:18:53 GMT
I am tempted by that big Optimus.
I don't have an articulation preference, I think it very much depends on the toy itself sometimes irrespective of scale. Though if I have a preference it would be for arm articulation, it was always more important for me as a kid when my Transformers were fighting and it's as good a reason now when I am old enough to know better.
Andy
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Post by Shockprowl on May 13, 2015 10:22:48 GMT
Optimus actually looks like a fun figure! Suddenly taking an interest in this line...
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Post by The Doctor on May 13, 2015 11:49:07 GMT
"Before articulation was, imagination was."
-Ralph
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