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Post by Pinwig on May 18, 2016 21:41:19 GMT
Yeah, my main desktop is 8.1 so I'm thinking I might as well. The laptop is 7 so I might leave that as is.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 18, 2016 21:43:57 GMT
Solid plan then, I await your thoughts on the 10'd machine
I 10'd Mum's and thought it better but not good enough.
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Post by browny87 on May 18, 2016 22:29:09 GMT
U need to turn automatic updates off In the settings Phil, otherwise it will auto install next time your on turns off. They are force pushing it onto every pc unless u disable auto updating.
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Post by browny87 on May 18, 2016 22:30:33 GMT
I have 10 and to be honest it ain't that bad, I did spend 2 hours uninstalling and reconfiguring all the auto installs and apps and startup programs it comes with. But once it's down to the bare bones its a decent enough OS. they have just added a ton of crap into it that nobody needs and wants. The new Microsoft edge is utter pAp!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on May 19, 2016 6:05:24 GMT
I have 10 and to be honest it ain't that bad, I did spend 2 hours uninstalling and reconfiguring all the auto installs and apps and startup programs it comes with. But once it's down to the bare bones its a decent enough OS. they have just added a ton of crap into it that nobody needs and wants. This is also my assessment. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 2, 2016 7:38:08 GMT
So.... Mum's Win10 Laptop stopped talking to her internet. Wouldn't connect to the wireless box. I couldn't get it to do a thing on site. I could however get my iPad and her spare laptop to connect so thought "The laptop must have got damaged" and brought it back home with me to get m'learned colleagues to look at it. I wanted to see if it would work over the ethernet cable (didn't have a spare in London) so set the laptop up, turned it on ..... and unexpectedly it found my wireless network and connected just fine. So any ideas please as to why it won't connect to her wireless, which it has done up till now and other devices still can, yet can connect to mine! We return to the matter of my mother's damaged laptop not connecting to the internet OK at her house. If you recall it did connect OK at mine. I've now got it to connect to Mum's router but it needs to be within a meter of it to work! By contrast at my home it worked fine a considerable distance away! However the other devices in Mum's house are working OK (connection speed issues aside) wherever they are but I've noticed my laptop labouring a few times when it's started up and trying to connect. iPad seems fine. I'm wondering if it's worth trying it on with Sky customer support for a new router...... |
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Post by Dezzeh on Jun 2, 2016 11:24:08 GMT
It would be worth also changing the channel on the router to a less commonly used one, they range from 1 to 13 I believe on the Sky ones and 10 upwards are usually a bit more free of traffic.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 2, 2016 12:41:07 GMT
Second person to suggest that today: how do you do it?
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Post by Dezzeh on Jun 2, 2016 14:44:42 GMT
Log in to the admin page, usually 192.168.0.1 User Admin, Pass sky and there on the wireless settings, where you set the encryption protocol and key etc, it should be on that page
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 2, 2016 15:15:35 GMT
Ta. Was set at 1, changed to 13, no joy :-(
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Post by Dezzeh on Jun 2, 2016 15:28:26 GMT
Safe to say the router could probably use replacing then!
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Post by Stomski on Jun 3, 2016 20:14:27 GMT
Also - change your router admin password! Anyone that hacks your wifi network can get it and change the WiFi password, restrict the network to certain MAC addresses etc.
If you get locked out because you forget, there should be a button that will reset to factory settings.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 23, 2016 17:09:06 GMT
Okay, so I reached the point I was getting a countdown timer every time I booted telling me I only have 14 HOURS TO SAVE THE EARTH!!! a week left of the free upgrade time. So I did it. Very surprised to find it all went very smoothly, took about half an hour, and everything seems to be working.
I smell a rat. It can't be that simple.
Now tempted to do the laptop too to keep everything uniform.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 23, 2016 17:15:47 GMT
Uh huh. So I had a very nicely organised folder structure for programs off my classic shell start button under 8.1. Now Windows wants to show me everything alphabetised. There's one rat found. I can't see any way to put it back to being MY preferred order. On MY PC.
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Post by blueshift on Jul 23, 2016 17:21:43 GMT
It's helping you!
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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Post by primenova on Jul 24, 2016 6:37:31 GMT
You can revert back. You don't need to have a start menu with your recent accessed file - Windows 10 - we'll hind your documents in 1000 pages of scroll tabs. Not have it on the windows key & an arrow.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 24, 2016 17:05:03 GMT
The user experience has been enhanced!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 24, 2016 19:18:19 GMT
I experienced the flip side of this today. I said to my dad, "it was easy, only took half an hour and a few button clicks, yes I can do yours."
Five hours later I gave up. I'm no novice with computers, heck I've been head of computing at my school for the last few years, but bloody hell when that update fails there is no proper support from Microsoft beyond the 'its all so wonderful' publicity flannel to explain the error codes properly. My dad's PC is nigh on identical to mine, but it will not do that update process for love nor money.
The only route I can see is a full reinstall from the ISO version, but that'll mean reinstalling all his software and settings too.
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 24, 2016 20:17:48 GMT
And thats why I'm passing on 10. Im sure I'll eventually need to buy a new PC with it already installed, but till then I'll put up with 8 which annoys me less than I expected.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 24, 2016 20:50:31 GMT
To be honest, if you've got classic shell installed on 8.1 to give you a proper start button, there seems to be no cosmetic difference to 10 when you're using a desktop PC.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2016 17:56:04 GMT
The joy of coming home and needing to do stuff on the laptop but Windows is updating itself randomly so your machine is bricked for well over an hour and ten minutes and counting. Fuck sakes.
Never had this kind of crap when computers ran on tapes!!!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2016 17:56:50 GMT
I don't need any fucking apps, Windows. It's a fucking laptop.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2016 17:58:49 GMT
PILE OF FUCkING WANK.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 26, 2016 18:38:24 GMT
The joy of coming home and needing to do stuff on the laptop but Windows is updating itself randomly so your machine is bricked for well over an hour and ten minutes and counting. Fuck sakes. Never had this kind of crap when computers ran on tapes!!! -Ralph That's been happening to me this week, and I finally think I've managed to stop it, thanks to www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/26/windows-10-how-to-stop-forced-updates/#22b7d28e5d1f . 1.Open the Run command (Win + R), in it type: services.msc and press enter 2.From the Services list which appears find the Windows Update service and open it 3.In ‘Startup Type’ (under the ‘General’ tab) change it to ‘Disabled’ 4.Restart To re-enable Windows Update simply repeat these four steps, but change the Startup Type to ‘Automatic’. My laptop is now well-behaved! Martin |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 26, 2016 18:51:03 GMT
That update happened to me last weekend. I don't think it was a standard patch, I didn't bother checking but it must have been a version increase because it took as long as it did to update from 8 to 10.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2016 19:13:40 GMT
Cheers, Martin.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2016 19:35:58 GMT
It's very unwise to completely disable the update service. I suggest doing some research to see what options there are as to controlling WHEN it runs and if you can control if and when it installs. There were on older windows. The joy of coming home and needing to do stuff on the laptop but Windows is updating itself randomly so your machine is bricked for well over an hour and ten minutes and counting. Fuck sakes. Never had this kind of crap when computers ran on tapes!!! -Ralph That's been happening to me this week, and I finally think I've managed to stop it, thanks to www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/26/windows-10-how-to-stop-forced-updates/#22b7d28e5d1f . 1.Open the Run command (Win + R), in it type: services.msc and press enter 2.From the Services list which appears find the Windows Update service and open it 3.In ‘Startup Type’ (under the ‘General’ tab) change it to ‘Disabled’ 4.Restart To re-enable Windows Update simply repeat these four steps, but change the Startup Type to ‘Automatic’. My laptop is now well-behaved! Martin |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 26, 2016 19:59:47 GMT
It's very unwise to completely disable the update service. For months my computer has been doing noisy stuff in the background, exchanging info with Microsoft when it should be giving me its full attention, slowing me down and occasionally taking half an hour to boot up because it's installing updates I didn't ask for. Now it's quiet and the modem only shows activity when I ask it to. I'll take my chances, Phil. And anyway the website said that security updates will remain enabled. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2016 20:02:11 GMT
it's probably still sending information back to Microsoft, that's a separate issue and one that can be addressed by a number of articles out there which will tell you what to disable
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2016 20:18:50 GMT
Now it's foing another fucking update!!!
DAMN YOU, BILL GATES!
-Ralph
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