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Post by blueshift on May 6, 2017 6:18:54 GMT
Smith's should be able to reserve it for folk even if they stop carrying it regularly. For people only after certain issues, there's always the website if all else fails. Subscribers are of course the lifeblood of a series like this, considering how many people seem to have-rightly-been cheesed off to the point where they're either going to newsagents (where Hachette get less from each copy) or giving up entirely, I hope they've not shot themselves in the foot over the long term viability of keeping it going. Probably not considering the cost cutting (with the exception of the new colouring) keeping the profit margin low, but if it does they've only themselves to blame. Honestly, given the care over the additional material and the colouring when they could have easily just shoved the existing comics into a book and called it a day, it's baffling how they're penny pinching every other (easier!!!) aspect of the books.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 6, 2017 6:22:32 GMT
WHSmith can but you need to pay £20 to set it up but you do get that back later. I'm going to get #11 off the shelf. They still put 1 copy of #6-10 out, they did get 10 copies of #1-5 in £20 what??? WHS ask for a 2 issue deposit on a standing order.
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Post by blueshift on May 6, 2017 6:33:00 GMT
Hmm ok, that's reasonable
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Post by Pinwig on May 6, 2017 10:04:22 GMT
You can indeed reserve at Smiths, but as you say, I don't want a regular reservation - just the Marvel stuff, so I will in time switch to buying in threes from the website (that being the number needed for free postage if I recall).
However, Smiths did have two copies of issue 10 today so I picked one up. They seem now to be in a regular pattern of getting two copies in, and whether I get one at the weekend depends on whether anyone else has been in before me. It's interesting to try and work out what someone else is trying to collect based on what's left. They're definitely into the IDW stuff as that always goes, but they're clearly not interested in Regen One!
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Post by kinggrimlock on May 6, 2017 11:40:00 GMT
Mine arrived this morning too. Ditto with the address. Had no problems at all before, now the house number is mysteriously missing. Fortunately the postie knew it was me!
Having had zero problems with the Dredd subscription (which, ironically I cancelled last month as a) I can't justify buying 2 partworks a month, b) I'm moving house shortly and want less stuff to pack and c) if they have another January sale I can snap up the missing volumes for half price in the new year), the Transformers one seems to have been a cock up of epic proportions due to the card details not updating and now the missing house number. Tempted to cancel it now. Ace Comics in Colchester offer them at £8.99 a month to their advance order customers plus postage, and as I order other comics from them anyway they would just be included with the other stuff so postage would effectively be free. Sorely tempted to add it in now!
Back on topic though, Trial By Fire did indeed look very washed out, and at least one page looked blurry to my eyes! Not been reprinted in UK order either, but then again they'd be "missing" UK issues #133 to 155 as there's a gap between the UK strips and the US #38 reprinted in #156 so I guess there's no "right" way of presenting them. Nice to see the Identity Scan reprinted in the back! Wish I still had mine - sadly lost to the mists of time. And I don't see the logic of whacking Devastator on the front cover. Oh wait, yes I do - there isn't any.
Regen One - clearly they've used the IDW collected version (it says "To Be Continued in Regeneration 1 Vol 2" on the last page) and I'm not convinced by Simon's commentary. Rack N Ruin are there as Easter Eggs for UK readers huh? How about a new iteration of The Wreckers rather than contradicting UK continuity for the sake of it and ruining the epic send off to the original Wreckers?
Sorry to come over all negative. But these are really nice books, it's just some of the decision making re: contents is truly baffling to me!
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Post by inflatabledalek on May 6, 2017 12:17:36 GMT
At least one other person who'd previously had no address problem has been FUBAR'd this month as well, so it seems they're getting worse...
With Reg, making it just a US continuation was a perfectly valid choice (if not what I'd have liked), but pumping it full of UK references as well means it falls between stools. Either the bulk to the intended readership wouldn't know the UK stuff (the excuse for it being ignored) or they're all bang up to speed on it to get the heavy handed nods, but it can't be both.
But then Reg is largely undone by poor decisions made at the start that result in it being built on foundations of quicksand.
I mean, they didn't want it to be a retro book (which was probably a mistake as writing for trade era style structure has never played to Furman's strengths), but then Circuit Smasher looks like Rob Liefeld's afterbirth (plus of course, was Circuit Breaker so popular there was a demand to have a copyright dodging version?). That more than anything probably sums up how oddly misjudged the whole series it.
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Post by kinggrimlock on May 6, 2017 12:29:58 GMT
The other thing I don't get is Hasbro's reluctance to have a continuation of the Marvel US series. Larry Hama reactivated the original GI Joe series at IDW and it's still going now - I picked up #239 last week! So that can hardly be a problem for Hasbro. Why they were reluctant to have Furman continue I've no idea, or why to cap it at #100. From the bonus content it sounds like Simon only planned for a 6 issue mini anyway, so he certainly got longer than he perhaps wanted, but still, if he'd wanted to carry on beyond that I wouldn't have had a problem with it and nor should Hasbro if it was making them money!
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Post by KnightBeat on May 6, 2017 13:26:41 GMT
I can't imagine what an ongoing RG1 series would be like. I fear it would have turned into a weaker clone of the IDW TF series, with the occasional nod to the 80s comic series.
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Post by blueshift on May 6, 2017 14:59:39 GMT
The other thing I don't get is Hasbro's reluctance to have a continuation of the Marvel US series. Larry Hama reactivated the original GI Joe series at IDW and it's still going now - I picked up #239 last week! So that can hardly be a problem for Hasbro. Why they were reluctant to have Furman continue I've no idea, or why to cap it at #100. From the bonus content it sounds like Simon only planned for a 6 issue mini anyway, so he certainly got longer than he perhaps wanted, but still, if he'd wanted to carry on beyond that I wouldn't have had a problem with it and nor should Hasbro if it was making them money! Because we had a continuation called G2 which finished it off pretty well
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Post by kinggrimlock on May 6, 2017 15:31:49 GMT
Because we had a continuation called G2 which finished it off pretty well Not really the point I was making. If Hasbro are happy for GI Joe to continue (and at this point, it's closing in on 100 extra issues), why would they not be supportive of a TF comic that does likewise or allow it but only with the proviso that it wrap up at #100 if that's the continuation that Simon wanted to do? Personally I'm fine with continuing G2 or Marvel UK continuity, but I can understand why the preferred route would be the "main" US book (ala GI Joe) as it's a US publisher involved here.
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Post by primenova on May 6, 2017 18:11:02 GMT
£20 set up fee - but you do get to use this against future issues. So you don't loose it. I'll see if its got it stated on the website. I think this is only at whsmith
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Post by primenova on May 6, 2017 18:12:04 GMT
I had a look at the £14.99 Startrek issue - so this is just the issue crossing over with DC Planet of the apes. So could they do this for Transformers with Gijoe etc?
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Post by browny87 on May 6, 2017 18:52:21 GMT
I got issue 6 this morning, they have screwed my subscription and are still trying to sort me out, ive had enough of them, gonna ring them on Monday and cancel everything and work out how to get them later
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Post by KnightBeat on May 6, 2017 19:57:50 GMT
I'm curious why everyone is buying this series, given that most of us own previous reprints of the comic. What are the main reasons that people here subscribe to the series or buy specific issues? Is it the extra commentaries, better paper quality, hardcovers, or something else?
I already own most of the series in floppy and paperback edition, so don't feel a strong urge to buy every issue. So far, I've limited myself to #1 for the poster, #3 for the newly coloured comics, and #5 to replace my missing War Within paperback.
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Post by blueshift on May 6, 2017 20:00:04 GMT
I'm curious why everyone is buying this series, given that most of us own previous reprints of the comic. What are the main reasons that people here subscribe to the series or buy specific issues? Is it the extra commentaries, better paper quality, hardcovers, or something else? I already own most of the series in floppy and paperback edition, so don't feel a strong urge to buy every issue. So far, I've limited myself to #1 for the poster, #3 for the newly coloured comics, and #5 to replace my missing War Within paperback. The newly coloured stuff. I think the Titan versions are better overall, given they were the correct size!
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Post by kinggrimlock on May 6, 2017 20:22:39 GMT
I'm a sucker for a nice hardcover collection, so that was a factor, as was having the b&w strips in colour. Not read much IDW after Furman left, so might be a nice way of catching up as I do miss having a regular TF comic to read. There's definitely an element of nostalgia too. Love seeing the old UK strips as they were such a huge influence on me, not only in forging my taste for comics, but also as a writer. The fact I get excited when the parcel arrives every month confirms I've made teh right choice and also that I've not really grown up
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Post by Pinwig on May 6, 2017 20:31:58 GMT
Matching spines, a uniform dress, an appealing collection. Umm... That was enough for me. I'm weak. They're easier to read than getting the original issues out?
That's about the best I can do. Same with the Dredd books.
Actually, that does just apply to the mighty 332. IDW I have in the collection hardbacks and the Dreamwave stuff I'm happy with just the floppies.
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Post by The Doctor on May 6, 2017 22:13:37 GMT
I'm curious why everyone is buying this series, given that most of us own previous reprints of the comic. What are the main reasons that people here subscribe to the series or buy specific issues? Is it the extra commentaries, better paper quality, hardcovers, or something else? I have been locked into an eternal cycle of buying the Marvel issues over and over in new formats for 30 years now. I cannot stop myself. -Ralph
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Post by Benn on May 6, 2017 22:15:23 GMT
I don't have all the prior stuff in trade form, and a uniform hardback collection? Hook, line and sinkered.
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Post by primenova on May 7, 2017 6:58:38 GMT
I'm getting the whole series for the extras
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Post by Kingoji on May 7, 2017 8:18:05 GMT
All of the marvel material, US and UK, in a uniform collection is what sold me. Getting the Dreamwave stuff as well as it's just a good opportunity to do so, but not bothering with the IDW outside of Regen as I already have all their hardbacks.
Someone asked above if the Joe crossover stuff is going to be collected. As far as I understand it, it is.
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Post by blueshift on May 7, 2017 8:44:25 GMT
All of the marvel material, US and UK, in a uniform collection is what sold me. Getting the Dreamwave stuff as well as it's just a good opportunity to do so, but not bothering with the IDW outside of Regen as I already have all their hardbacks. Someone asked above if the Joe crossover stuff is going to be collected. As far as I understand it, it is. Not all the marvel material, there's no G2, grumble moan
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Post by Kingoji on May 7, 2017 9:06:12 GMT
I'll just have to satisfy myself with the hope that it'll come later, for a bit of variety when all they really have left is the IDW stuff.
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Post by Kingoji on May 7, 2017 9:13:16 GMT
Okay, I want to first say that I am in no way privy to Hachette's release schedule, but having helped out on a couple of volumes I can help speculate a little on what volume conatins what a bit. Bear with...
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Post by blueshift on May 7, 2017 9:37:14 GMT
I'll just have to satisfy myself with the hope that it'll come later, for a bit of variety when all they really have left is the IDW stuff. It's more the principle of the weird historical revisionism, ie G2 never happened/ is just a tiny footnote, RG1 is the only triumphant finale that all fans wanted. When it was pish. You could easily have them both in there. I mean hearts of sodding steel is!!!
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Post by Kingoji on May 7, 2017 10:04:23 GMT
Again, not privy to any release schedule or even volume names. Pure speculation on my part.
Vol.6: Target 2006 Vol.8: Wanted: Galvatron - Dead Or Alive Vol.10: Trial By fire Vol.16: The Primal Scream Vol.17: Aspects Of Evil Vol.18: On The Edge Of Extinction Vol.19: Perchance To Dream Vol.20: The End Of The Road
Vol.21: Regeneration One Vol.22: Natural Selection Vol.23: Destiny Vol.24: The War To End All Wars
Vol.25: Prime Directive Vol.26: War And Peace Vol.27: Original Sin (Ongoing 0-6) Vol.28: Lost and Found (Ongoing 7-10/Summer Special) Vol.29: The War Within Vol.30: The Dark Ages Vol.31: Trenches (Transformers/GI Joe)
Vol.32: Autocracy Vol.33: Primacy Vol.34: Megatron: Origins Vol.35: Infiltration Vol.36: Stormbringer Vol.37: Escalation Vol.38: Man And Machine (New Avengers/Spotlight Ramjet) Vol.39: Hearts Of Steel
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Post by Kingoji on May 7, 2017 10:08:08 GMT
I'd imagine that Monstrocity will be collected alongside either Autocracy or Primacy, and all the other early year Spotlights (Jazz, Metroplex, Orion Pax, Thundercracker, Blurr, Cliffjumper, etc) will be used to fill space in those and Megatron Origins. Not really seeing a way to fit in Micromasters, though.
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Post by blueshift on May 7, 2017 10:13:40 GMT
Would they be allowed to republish New Avengers/Transformers?
I have no idea how the rights work
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Post by Kingoji on May 7, 2017 10:15:15 GMT
There has been no issue in using Marvel characters thus far, so I don't see why not. Maybe they do just need to avoid putting the Avengers on the cover in name or visual. Given the theme of the covers thus far it will probably have Scourge on it anyway.
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Post by blueshift on May 7, 2017 10:20:50 GMT
There has been no issue in using Marvel characters thus far, so I don't see why not. Oh yes that's a point. I am haunted by the complete mess of those original IDW reprints
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