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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 17, 2017 18:16:19 GMT
Mispacked toy. Clearly Sideswipe = red robot.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 17, 2017 18:24:24 GMT
But the description on the tech spec matches the toy inside the box
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Post by Jaymz on Dec 17, 2017 18:30:07 GMT
And it's not a singular mispacked oddity, all the MB Sideswipes were Sunstreaker. Interesting story behind why, you can read about it here: 20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-6/And worth noting it came with Sideswipe instructions and stickers, to confuse the kids. Unrelated to the bio/toy swap: when they decided to release Sunstreaker as yellow in TFs, someone forgot to change the stickers on his shoulders to yellow. |
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Post by The Huff on Dec 17, 2017 19:45:48 GMT
Big Phil's right! He's right! It hurts, I know, but the theory is sound. The brothers should have been the other way round. IT MAKES MORE SENSE. As I've said before, I agree with this too! The tech specs pretty much prove it. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 17, 2017 20:33:23 GMT
Big Phil's right! He's right! It hurts, I know, but the theory is sound. The brothers should have been the other way round. IT MAKES MORE SENSE. As I've said before, I agree with this too! The tech specs pretty much prove it. Yes, Brother, Yes! SEE THIS, NONE BELIEVERS OF THE PHIL!!!
IT IS TRUE!!! IT IS RIGHTEOUS!!!!!!
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 17, 2017 20:34:18 GMT
Unrelated to the bio/toy swap: when they decided to release Sunstreaker as yellow in TFs, someone forgot to change the stickers on his shoulders to yellow. |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 17, 2017 21:35:44 GMT
The box is Truth. The rest is mispacked.
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Post by The Huff on Dec 17, 2017 22:09:23 GMT
The Sunstreaker design also has 'piledriver arms' compared to the Sideswipe 'T-Rex with boxing glove' arms.
But they are now who they are after 33 years.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 21, 2017 8:01:25 GMT
I'm sure M will be along shortly to play Substitute Ralph and scorn this idea How does Ransack and Scavenge(r) mean remotely the same thing?? Nonsense. Ransack: to go through (a place) stealing things and causing damage. Scavenge: search for and collect (anything usable) from discarded waste. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 21, 2017 8:05:34 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 26, 2017 9:01:47 GMT
Ugh!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 26, 2017 9:02:19 GMT
But the description on the tech spec matches the toy inside the box No it does not. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 26, 2017 9:03:10 GMT
Enough of this pish, Phil!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 8, 2018 9:42:15 GMT
How many Scavenger Toys do you own? has reminded me I have mad theory about the Robots in Disguise Vehicon repaint set. Scavenger
Mirage GT
Nightcruz The theory is quite simple: Mirage & Scavenger, somewhere along the line, had their colours swapped. Mirage, a race car, is Yellow & Black and Scavenger, a construction vehicle of sorts, is Blue & White. Swap the round and Mirage becomes a white and blue racing car, a homage to the G1 character, and Scavenger becomes a yellow & black construction vehicle, sensible colours for such an item.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 8, 2018 10:32:43 GMT
But wouldn't someone have noticed the colours got mixed up on two toys before it hit production? Especially if there was meant to be an intentional homage?
And Scavenger was green originally at the the time of Mirage.
And where does Nightcruz fit into it??
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 8, 2018 10:44:00 GMT
Nightcruz is trying to do a blackbird in blackbird colours since they made a mess of Spystreak's colours www.tfu.info/2001/Vehicon/SpyStreak/spystreak.htmI never claimed Scavenger was a homage to the original, merely that the construction vehicle colours on him made more sense. But by this point Constructicon Scavenger had been yellow three times (Euro 86 (not UK), Euro 92 and G2) There's a long history of people not spotting obvious colour errors in Transformers! |
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Post by Jim on Jan 8, 2018 12:20:03 GMT
But wouldn't someone have noticed the colours got mixed up on two toys before it hit production? Especially if there was meant to be an intentional homage? It depends on how the process is/was; sometimes this kind of thing is done using a colour mapping where you say colour A goes here, B goes there and then a separate table says A = blue, B = white. So all that has to happen is the tables get mixed up. Then if the original designer is not involved in QC it can easily get missed. These kinds of things have been tightened up much more though both for technical reasons and because companies care more about their high-profile brands; it probably isn't even possible now. |
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Post by blueshift on Jan 8, 2018 12:30:07 GMT
Nightcruz is trying to do a blackbird in blackbird colours since they made a mess of Spystreak's colours www.tfu.info/2001/Vehicon/SpyStreak/spystreak.htmI never claimed Scavenger was a homage to the original, merely that the construction vehicle colours on him made more sense. But by this point Constructicon Scavenger had been yellow three times (Euro 86 (not UK), Euro 92 and G2) There's a long history of people not spotting obvious colour errors in Transformers! But the racecar was already blue!!! Also that scavenger looked awesome |
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 8, 2018 12:47:35 GMT
Nightcruz is trying to do a blackbird in blackbird colours since they made a mess of Spystreak's colours www.tfu.info/2001/Vehicon/SpyStreak/spystreak.htmI never claimed Scavenger was a homage to the original, merely that the construction vehicle colours on him made more sense. But by this point Constructicon Scavenger had been yellow three times (Euro 86 (not UK), Euro 92 and G2) There's a long history of people not spotting obvious colour errors in Transformers! There's a long history of Mad Phil spotting colour errors which do not exist!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Toph on Jan 8, 2018 12:57:48 GMT
It's a series that had a flying shark as a main character, and an SUV swung around the city spider-man style.
I don't think they were too plussed about having a not-really-a-construction-vehicle repaint be blue.
And as pointed out, Mirage had already been blue.
If the decoes were swapped, it was done so intentionally.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 8, 2018 13:07:05 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 8, 2018 16:56:10 GMT
*shakes from side to side*
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 8, 2018 17:59:55 GMT
Temporal wake must have protected us from the changes in the Toyline.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 8, 2018 18:14:56 GMT
Phil won't stay on Deck 15.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 8, 2018 19:00:17 GMT
You may encounter Hubbers who've already been convinced. Don't hesitate to fire.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 8, 2018 20:10:48 GMT
Believe me: you'll be doing them a favour.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 8, 2018 23:13:39 GMT
Phil will adapt quickly. We will be able to counter him 12 times at most.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 9, 2018 7:47:30 GMT
Don't worry, Big Phil-
I WILL MAKE THEM PAY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 9, 2018 8:14:07 GMT
Perhaps something in satin?
*snaps fingers*
*Phil dons a dress*
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 9, 2018 10:37:59 GMT
No no, look at Phil. *Phil leads a merry dance*
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