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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 20, 2018 8:16:05 GMT
A major protagonist trapped in a child's body? See comments made about Hot Rod and, at the opposite end of the spectrum, Kup when we did the 86 cars poll.
And yes, it is good!
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Post by blueshift on Oct 20, 2018 8:21:19 GMT
I bought Eternals a while back, I still need to read it
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 20, 2018 20:42:22 GMT
Oh no, Martin. Gaiman Eternals is awful. The Kirby version is far superior.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 20, 2018 20:49:13 GMT
Tried recently, found it impenetrable, gave up after 3-4 issues of slog.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 20, 2018 21:02:14 GMT
No such thing as a bad Kirby comic.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 20, 2018 21:06:32 GMT
Sadly I think that might be a fallacy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 21, 2018 6:18:38 GMT
Oh no, Martin. Gaiman Eternals is awful. The Kirby version is far superior. Not read it. But anyway I was judging by 21st Century Marvel standards. Martin |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 21, 2018 7:06:51 GMT
Quite well into Phil's New Defenders Epic and rather disappointed in its change of direction. It has lost what made the team special (being a secret, informal alliance led by Dr Strange against supernatural/mystical menaces) and become just another officially recognised super-team, and a rather incompetent/dysfunctional one at that. With the Angel and Iceman on board, it's become the Champions!!!  In the issue I just read, they even get asked by a member of the public what makes them different from the Avengers, to which the Beast answers that they shower more often. Seems like the writers aren't interested in telling classic Defenders-type stories any more. Iceman mini-series up next. Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 21, 2018 9:15:51 GMT
Sadly I think that might be a fallacy You risk a Burns wrath like none has ever been experienced before. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 21, 2018 9:16:42 GMT
Iceman mini-series up next. Martin Which you will LOVE. -Ralph |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 21, 2018 16:47:26 GMT
Oh. Aha. I see what you did there.
Well, that's two hours of my life I'm not getting back.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 21, 2018 18:57:58 GMT
Oh come on! What's wrong with it?
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 21, 2018 22:39:25 GMT
I can't believe how hard you guys ride poor Martin...
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 22, 2018 5:03:48 GMT
Oh come on! What's wrong with it? There was a good bit at the end of issue #2 where he got his dad killed before he was born and so blinked out of existence. I didn't see that twist coming. But everything before that and after that was awful. Oh, except for the Star Destroyer on page 1 of issue #1. I looked forward to finding out what was going on there. But they never explained it. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 22, 2018 6:41:35 GMT
I think it's pish too Martin, but know it's hallowed ground for Burns.
There's an earlier solo Iceman story from Bizarre Adventures which is miles better as is his Hulk annual appearance with Angel.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 22, 2018 7:12:59 GMT
WHAT????
YOU TOO??????????????????
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 22, 2018 7:24:36 GMT
Yup. Thought the bits of it I read during the day were rubbish, didn't improve on modern readings.
You may find it a crushing disappointment now....
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 22, 2018 7:27:40 GMT
Onto the Beauty & Beast mini-series now.
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 22, 2018 7:29:55 GMT
This was another I always wanted to read when I was younger and could never find the issues for.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 22, 2018 17:09:14 GMT
Beauty & the Beast #1-2 are the best issues in this TPB so far.
This Defenders TPB really feels like it should be an X-book. Half the New Defenders are original X-Men members, and it has two four-issue mini-series about mutants (Iceman and Dazzler/Beast respectively).
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 22, 2018 18:26:05 GMT
Finished #3-4. Now that was a quality mini-series, head and shoulders above anything else in this Epic Collection. Really should have been in an X-Men TPB though.
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 22, 2018 18:46:22 GMT
Neither was an X-Man at the time, Defenders is the best place for it as Beast is a Member there when it was produced. Plus the Defenders needs some padding!
Can't stand those bl**dy gladiators here, or in New Mutants or Xtreme X-Men
Gargoyle LS in the next volume, never collected before.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 22, 2018 19:05:32 GMT
Neither was an X-Man at the time, Defenders is the best place for it as Beast is a Member there when it was produced. But neither mini-series has anything to do with the Defenders team or saving the world, and everything to do with mutant/human tensions, so thematically they are X-stories not Defenders/Avengers stories. Martin |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 31, 2018 6:21:59 GMT
Finished the New Defenders Epic. The Defenders issues get a bit better towards the end, as the threats become more demonic/mystical again and they start wishing they still had Dr Strange with them, but the best in the book was definitely Beauty & the Beast. Low point was the Iceman mini.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 2, 2018 23:23:43 GMT
Onto the Beauty & Beast mini-series now. Martin It's pish. The Ice-Man mini is STILL OUTSTANDING to this day!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 3, 2018 11:12:24 GMT
Finished the New Defenders Epic. The Defenders issues get a bit better towards the end, as the threats become more demonic/mystical again and they start wishing they still had Dr Strange with them, but the best in the book was definitely Beauty & the Beast. Low point was the Iceman mini. Martin There's a new Doctor Strange epic waiting here for you, printing the early Dr Strange by Lee & Dikto I think the next Defenders may be more up your street. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 30, 2018 21:03:26 GMT
Made it ten issues into the Spider-Man Alien Costume Saga before admitting defeat and skipping ahead to the key event issues. I'm afraid I've never been much of a Spider-Man reader. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 30, 2018 21:56:01 GMT
Phil has Vintage Doctor Strange for Martin.
But what else can he be leant?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 30, 2018 21:59:23 GMT
Phil has Vintage Doctor Strange for Martin. Yay! Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 31, 2018 8:12:59 GMT
Made it ten issues into the Spider-Man Alien Costume Saga before admitting defeat and skipping ahead to the key event issues. I'm afraid I've never been much of a Spider-Man reader. Martin No, Martin, no! -Ralph |
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