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Post by The Doctor on Jun 8, 2015 20:37:17 GMT
If anyone can find me a comic, cartoon or toy from the original iteration of Transformers where the Decepticon Strike Planes are called seekers, I shall concede the point.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 8, 2015 21:24:23 GMT
It's the Americans... It's their fault!
BLAME THE AMERICANS!!!!
DAMN YOU CJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Toph on Jun 8, 2015 21:35:29 GMT
If anyone can find me a comic, cartoon or toy from the original iteration of Transformers where the Decepticon Strike Planes are called seekers, I shall concede the point. -Ralph They're called Seekers all over the place in IDW. Especially when dealing with Thundercracker. From the wiki: More detailed on it's origins. tfwiki.net/wiki/Seeker_(body-type)#Origin_of_the_termEither way it is the official term for them now.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 8, 2015 21:50:50 GMT
AMERICANO LIES!!!!! GET HIM, DOC'!!!!!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 8, 2015 21:51:50 GMT
That's 10 plus years after the original comics and toyline!
It's a fan invented term that's worked it's way into more licensed use.
Have Hasbro used it themselves? Ditto Conehead before the recent reissue boxset?
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 8, 2015 21:56:51 GMT
MORE LIES!!!!
WHO DO YOU TRUST?!?!?!?!
(This'd be great on Transformers Big Brother)
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Post by Toph on Jun 8, 2015 22:06:54 GMT
It seems both terms originated in toy catalogs, while one went on to become the dominant term, and the other is only used here!
Mwahahahaha.
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Post by Llama God on Jun 8, 2015 22:32:53 GMT
I'm just disappointed that no-one got my pop culture reference. (Well. As pop culture as I get. Dudes.)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 8, 2015 22:51:28 GMT
A slight correction: Seekers originated in a catalogue put out by an American store.
Strike Planes does at least have the legitimacy of being on something authored by Hasbro themselves! ;-)
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Post by Toph on Jun 8, 2015 23:00:38 GMT
I'm just disappointed that no-one got my pop culture reference. (Well. As pop culture as I get. Dudes.) I guess I didn't. I thought it was a comment about seeking to overthrow megatron then being killed.
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 8, 2015 23:02:59 GMT
Cone heads always irked me. As does that mistransformation. Bloody cartoon. Thrust is way too sleek and sophisticated to have a knob on his head.
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Post by Toph on Jun 8, 2015 23:33:50 GMT
Coneheads as an official term irks me, but as an unofficial descriptor for them, it doesn't bother me as much.
As a design idea though, it really doesn't bother me at all.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 9, 2015 6:26:42 GMT
SEEKERS DO NOT $\€\*\^\^| EXIST. Yes, they do. Not in the original and definitive pre-Beast Wars TFs franchise, but in the only other incarnation of TFs to match the original franchise in success terms, the LIVE-ACTION MOVIE UNIVERSE. In "Revenge of the Fallen" Seekers exist, but do not refer to Starscream's air force, but rather Jetfire and the other old-fashioned TFs seeking the Matrix of Leadership. If Seekers means anything in Transformers, it means them! Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 9, 2015 6:32:56 GMT
Coneheads as an official term irks me, but as an unofficial descriptor for them, it doesn't bother me as much. In light of their animation model it does work and is an appropriate descriptor. Still winds me up! 85 Jets for me. And 84 jets for the previous 3. Toy centric bias.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 9, 2015 6:33:40 GMT
It seems both terms originated in toy catalogs, while one went on to become the dominant term, and the other is only used here! A clue to the reason why can be found at the top of the page!
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Post by Llama God on Jun 9, 2015 7:33:31 GMT
I'm just disappointed that no-one got my pop culture reference. (Well. As pop culture as I get. Dudes.) I guess I didn't. I thought it was a comment about seeking to overthrow megatron then being killed. Indeed. And *that* is why they call him the Seeker - not just because he's been searching low and high... ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 11:52:00 GMT
I feel I must weigh in on this important issue. I follow the Hasbro UK 1984 catalogue, the one true pamphlet that all should acquiesce to.
Thusly;
The Decepticon jets are, of course, Strike Planes.
The Autobots are Robot Cars.
Soundwave is Cassette Man.
And Optimus Prime is Leader Truck.
-- Graham
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Post by Llama God on Jun 9, 2015 12:47:19 GMT
Cassette Man it is then. I shall expect Mr. Ayres to change the corresponding forum threads appropriately. ;-)
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Post by Benn on Jun 9, 2015 13:53:35 GMT
I miss that swear filter.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 9, 2015 14:05:30 GMT
For those of us as of a certain age, we still tend to think of Cassette Man as Soundwave's proper name. He was the Decepticon leader!
-Ralph
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Post by Llama God on Jun 9, 2015 14:28:25 GMT
Cassette Man, Cassette Man, does anything a cassette can! Warps under the slightest heat! Gets tangled up in his own teeth! Look out! Here comes the Cassette Man!
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Post by Toph on Jun 9, 2015 16:08:01 GMT
We must follow our great Leader Truck!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 10:46:58 GMT
"Robot Cars: roll out!" Leader Truck ordered. "Cassette Man must be stopped, no matter the cost."
-- Graham
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Post by Stomski on Jun 11, 2015 11:40:51 GMT
Correct term is "Statscream and his multicoloured legion of airborne pals" or SMLAPs for short.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 14:52:36 GMT
What is Starscream's, Skywarp's, and Thundercracker's favourite game?
Hide and strike plane.
-- Graham
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 24, 2015 17:32:06 GMT
In the Decepticon's Who's Who in TFUK #48 our flying friends are described under JET PLANES!
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Jun 24, 2015 21:34:21 GMT
Which, whilst fairly generic, could be argued to be slightly more accurate - given that Starscream et al always seem to be depicted as single-seaters, meaning they are A or C model F-15s, which are pure air superiority aircraft, rather than the two-seat F-15E Strike Eagles... :-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 11:50:33 GMT
A further development! In 1989, Argos referred to the Micromaster Deception Air Strike Patrol as "Strike Planes". -- Graham
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Post by Llama God on Nov 12, 2015 12:26:18 GMT
Well, seeing as how they also described Thundercracker and Skywarp as "one supplied, colours may vary" I don't think we can trust their word...
But then I'm just desperate to prove the s-word. ;-)
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 12, 2015 21:48:21 GMT
What a twist!
-Ralph
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