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Post by Bogatan on Aug 9, 2018 18:15:01 GMT
ONLY OPTIMUS PRIME CAN HOLD HIS GUN. -Ralph Frenzy could hold Megatrons cannon. |
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 9, 2018 18:19:31 GMT
I don't know who to vote for. Hotspot and Groove were my joint second transformers after Sludge. Streetwise was number 3 bought later on my birthday to allow Defensor to stand on a pair of legs. Blades and First Aid (along with Metroplex and others arrived a few months later for Christmas).
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 9, 2018 20:45:48 GMT
There can only be one, Dave.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 9, 2018 21:08:43 GMT
I don't know who to vote for. Hotspot and Groove were my joint second transformers after Sludge. Streetwise was number 3 bought later on my birthday to allow Defensor to stand on a pair of legs. Blades and First Aid (along with Metroplex and others arrived a few months later for Christmas). As long as you don't vote for Blades!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Llama God on Aug 9, 2018 21:23:33 GMT
I think when it comes to these special teams I'm the anti-Phil; I'm a lot less interested in the Protectobots than I was with the Aerialbots, mainly, I think, because at the time they were revealed we'd had car-bots before. That was the Autobot thing. The Aerialbots were different, and thus interesting. As such, I find it hard to get excited about any of the team.
So... I'll vote for Hotspot. Because he's a blue fire engine and thus looks the most visually interesting.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 9, 2018 21:34:08 GMT
I have changed my vote to Hotspot! Now Blades cannot - should not - win!!!
Events are proceeding exactly as I planned!!!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 9, 2018 21:34:57 GMT
Now, User 3, vote for Hotspot and push him over the finishing line!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 9, 2018 21:55:23 GMT
Tomorrow am looks mad, the poll may unintentionally get some extra time
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2018 5:01:07 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2018 5:03:52 GMT
Week 25: What is the best Combaticon on the UK Special Teams catalogue?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2018 5:35:50 GMT
OK....
Space shuttles should be white. If you want a green military flying limb, surely a jet would be better, albeit more on the Aerialbots territory.
Other than that 5 fine toys, several of which do interesting things with their vehicle mode weapons. These aren't just stick them on the back (Stunticons, First Aid/Streetwise). Vortex has his mounted in his body, Blast off's are on his wings, Swindle's turns on the back of his vehicle. Brawl has the most similar weapon to previous vehicles and even his pivots up & down.
It's a straight shootout between Brawl and Onslaught for me. We had both in 1986. Brawl was great, good and solid. Onslaught wowed me though with his carrier vehicle mode and his nearly plausible base mode which almost looks like a landing craft or half a bridge layer.
Onslaught.
Phil does not own any original Combaticons at the moment. When they were Encored he convinced himself that Baldigus, which he already owned, was enough. NICK.....
They've also been redone the most times: Operation Combination (as Battle Gaea alongside Guard City), G2 (alongside Superion), Car Robots, Robots in Disguise (they're different), a RiD urban/artic camo exclusive and a desert camo version in Universe 1!
Bruticus has lost his hat in the above picture!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 10, 2018 6:07:09 GMT
I'll never understand why the quality control on transforming things properly before taking photos for toy catalogues is so poor.
Hmmm.
Not Blast Off because he's the wrong colour and has nowhere to mount his small gun in vehicle mode.
The others are all good. Brawl has nowhere to put his big twin gun in robot mode, but you can stand it on its own as a separate artillery piece.
Tempted to vote Vortex as his helicopter mode(s) are ace, but he can't hold his gun in robot mode properly and keep his arm straight, which was mildly annoying, and I've always preferred Swindle as a character. I never understood why Hound had to have a different gun in robot and jeep modes. Swindle can hold his jeep turret gun(s) in robot mode, which is quite satisfying. And the multiple articulation on his combined weapon in jeep mode - side-to-side on the big gun, up-and-down on the little gun attached to it - was good. Plus, I like Swindle's squat and stocky look in robot mode.
Onslaught is a fine Triple Changer, and if he was at the same price point as Swindle, he'd win, but I'm going to go with value-for-money on this one and give Swindle my vote.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 10, 2018 6:11:02 GMT
Combaticons to scale (according to somebody). Onslaught and Swindle are about right relative to each other. Vortex and Brawl aren't too far off compared to each other. Why didn't they make the space shuttle the leader?  Martin |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 10, 2018 6:18:22 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Aug 10, 2018 6:22:45 GMT
I never had a problem with blast off's size. Space shuttles can be small!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 10, 2018 6:30:38 GMT
Brawl and Onslaught are joint strongest (strength 8). Blast Off is the weakest (strength 3), despite being the biggest as a vehicle.
Swindle and Vortex have intelligence 9, Onslaught and Blast Off have intelligence 8. Poor Brawl has intelligence 2.
Blast Off is the fastest (speed 10), Onslaught the slowest (speed 3).
Brawl has the greatest endurance (9), Blast Off the lowest (3), though presumably he is very heat-resistant if he can survive re-entry.
Swindle and Vortex are joint second-in-command.
Brawl is the bravest, followed by Onslaught. Blast Off and Swindle are the least brave.
Blast Off has firepower 9, Brawl and Onslaught firepower 8, the others firepower 7.
Blast Off has skill 10. Onslaught and Swindle have skill 9, Vortex 8, Brawl 7.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 10, 2018 6:34:50 GMT
I never had a problem with that, but maybe I never quite understood what a motorbike was I never had a problem with blast off's size. Space shuttles can be small! I can believe in blue fire engines, but not motorcycles the size of space shuttles. Martin |
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 10, 2018 7:04:54 GMT
Another awesome Martin's Techspec Rundown!
Some odd values in there. Particularly Blastoff's low strength and endurance.
Yeah, Spaceshuttles and Motorcycles being the same size is a bit bonkers. But as far as Blastoff is concerned, I've always considered him just spaceshuttle looking.
They're a good looking team. A good mix of vehicles. Nice contrast to the all-evil-car Stunticons.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 10, 2018 7:54:52 GMT
Swindle and Brawl clearly meant to have been new Hound and Warpath, making Vortex new Blades and Onslaught new Omega Supreme. Why was this team not Autobots??
Warpath/Brawl has my vote. A lovely little toy in both modes.
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Post by Benn on Aug 10, 2018 8:38:52 GMT
Scale-wise we've all got our own lines in the sand. But it never bothered me that Groove and Blast Off are the same size.
Not sure who to vote for here. Never had any Combat Rons as a child. The only one I'm not going for is Swindle. When I picked up the Encore release he was a real let down in robot mode. Shame, as his character model is pretty iconic.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 10, 2018 8:50:18 GMT
Tomorrow am looks mad, the poll may unintentionally get some extra time It can't get extra time!!! Stop influencing the votes!!! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 10, 2018 8:53:10 GMT
Bruticus has lost his hat in the above picture! What do you - 30 YEARS AND I NEVER NOTICED!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 10, 2018 9:33:22 GMT
Not again...  |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 10, 2018 9:34:05 GMT
Tomorrow am looks mad, the poll may unintentionally get some extra time It can't get extra time!!! Stop influencing the votes!!! -Ralph Phil managed to control himself. Or did he... Did User 3 put of his vote thinking he had Extra Time?? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2018 10:39:34 GMT
Tomorrow am looks mad, the poll may unintentionally get some extra time It can't get extra time!!! Stop influencing the votes!!! -Ralph It can if Phil wakes at 7:30 and needs to be out the door by 8:30. As it happens I woke at 5:45! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2018 10:41:09 GMT
Bruticus has lost his hat in the above picture! What do you - 30 YEARS AND I NEVER NOTICED!!! -Ralph I am aware that Ralph needs glasses but his powers of observation are repeatedly being shown as rather deficient...... |
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 10, 2018 12:01:01 GMT
I spotted that when was a kid!
Onslaught. Just the best all-round toy of the lot.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 10, 2018 14:24:25 GMT
We discussed hatless Bruticus in the thirty years thread when we got as far as the Special Teams supplement.
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Even I now think that sounds like I'm talking in code.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2018 14:52:19 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 10, 2018 15:33:44 GMT
Swindle and Brawl clearly meant to have been new Hound and Warpath, making Vortex new Blades and Onslaught new Omega Supreme. Why was this team not Autobots?? No, no, Blast Off and Brawl are the new Astrotrain and Blitzwing, Swindle and Vortex are the new evil Roadbuster and Whirl, and Onslught is the new evil Inferno because his missile launchers are a bit like a ladder. I originally took it on trust that Bruticus's head was intended to be the same as Onslaught's, and really tiny, until I saw a picture of the Bruticus toy done properly. I love the fact that Vortex has a semi-automatic glue gun. I wonder what the Decepticon engineers were thinking when they decided to equip him with that rather obscure piece of equipment. Martin |
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