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Post by Pinwig on Sept 14, 2018 20:12:02 GMT
Woah. That's a moment and no mistake. I did not know that and I've owned Cyclonus since '86.
This is a fascinating discussion! Brilliant reading. I'm undecided. Cyclonus was the one of the pair I got when they came out and I have many fond memories of that, but when I got Scourge a year or two back I was blown away by how cool he is.
Hmmm.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 14, 2018 21:17:41 GMT
I know one man here who almost inevitably... wouldn't have. Whether he knew the wings were interchangeable or not is another thing. NO TO SWITCHING WINGS!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 14, 2018 21:36:14 GMT
Its always seemed like some kind of abandoned concept, even before I knew that such things happened in the design process.
I cant think of any other transformer from that era that came apart like that without a purpose.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 14, 2018 21:43:20 GMT
Can you attach them on the opposite sides to angle the wings back?
(Mine's AWOL so can't check)
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Post by Jim on Sept 14, 2018 22:22:12 GMT
Zero in-hand experience of either, but Scourge has always appealed more.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 14, 2018 22:31:32 GMT
Can you attach them on the opposite sides to angle the wings back? (Mine's AWOL so can't check) I remember trying this. I think here was something either preventing it or the shoulders locked in at a strange angle? |
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Post by Llama God on Sept 15, 2018 9:27:06 GMT
Difficult one for me, this. I'm trying to go on my feelings from when I first saw these toys, and would have seen them in a toy catalogue. Stood next to the existing see- attack planes like that, they both immediately look more interesting, simply on account of not fitting in. Whilst it's true that Cyclonus initially has the more sleek looking jet mode, Scourge is more interesting on account of being a flying ice-lolly mold - and that is more futuristic.
Of the two, I've not had much hands-on experience with Cyclonus. But Scourge I have, and despite being a shell-former, that never bothered me. The shell formed wings, which was interesting, and his robot mode had elbows - ELBOWS! - which immediately put his articulation above any of the jets. And, as has been pointed out, he's the first with a beard. But-
Ah, who am I kidding? After all that, it's gotta be Scourge.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 15, 2018 9:46:49 GMT
Human, I fear your logic is faulty. Cyclonus has the superior elbow articulation!
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 15, 2018 12:49:50 GMT
Can you attach them on the opposite sides to angle the wings back? (Mine's AWOL so can't check) Aww man, I can't believe I never thought to try that! |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 15, 2018 16:58:18 GMT
Human, I fear your logic is faulty. Cyclonus has the superior elbow articulation! But he hasn't got hands!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 15, 2018 17:06:41 GMT
He has great big fookoff massive death fists!
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 15, 2018 17:10:45 GMT
In my own little world I always heavily associated these two with Unicron. Scourge was Unicron's hunter, picking off those who may have escaped a planet's destruction. And Cyclonus was Unicron's Herald.
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Post by Benn on Sept 15, 2018 17:53:57 GMT
Y'know, I think I've heard that before somewhere...
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 15, 2018 19:08:37 GMT
Where? WHERE?!?!
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 15, 2018 19:09:42 GMT
THE HERALD OF UNICRON MUST WIN THIS VOTE OR WORLDS UNTOLD WILL PERISH.
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Post by Benn on Sept 15, 2018 20:06:55 GMT
I don't know. Dreamwave was doing something similar, but... I'm sure this is something I heard when the film came out. Like the toy adverts maybe?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 15, 2018 20:31:04 GMT
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 15, 2018 20:38:12 GMT
I'd forgotten about the flaps on the back of the legs. They dont serve a purpose either do they?
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 15, 2018 22:25:22 GMT
Nope. Dreadful toy!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 15, 2018 22:25:53 GMT
THE HERALD OF UNICRON MUST WIN THIS VOTE OR WORLDS UNTOLD WILL PERISH. You are aware they were both created by Unicron? It was in the film! -Ralph |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 15, 2018 23:50:13 GMT
NOT in MY brain, Doctor!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 16, 2018 4:04:38 GMT
You are aware they were both created by Unicron? It was in the film! More importantly, it was in 'Target: 2006'. Which Shockprowl is no doubt about to tell us he hasn't read. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 16, 2018 5:45:43 GMT
There aren't many things that make me reach for The Ban Hammer but certain offences cannot go unpunished....
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Post by The Huff on Sept 16, 2018 5:50:39 GMT
Can you attach them on the opposite sides to angle the wings back? (Mine's AWOL so can't check) Aww man, I can't believe I never thought to try that! Wouldn't this just make them upside down but still facing the same way? |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 16, 2018 6:56:41 GMT
Wouldn't this just make them upside down but still facing the same way? I think the suggestion was to swap them without turning them upside-down. Which would be great, if it was actually Cyclonus's wings that come off. But it's not, it's his entire arm (including wing, engine and tail-fin) that comes off. So if you swap them over, keeping them the same way up, you end up with his engines facing forwards. Martin |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 16, 2018 7:21:01 GMT
You are aware they were both created by Unicron? It was in the film! More importantly, it was in 'Target: 2006'. Which Shockprowl is no doubt about to tell us he hasn't read. Martin Of course I've read Target:2006! I'm not THAT bad! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 16, 2018 7:22:35 GMT
Aww man, I can't believe I never thought to try that! Wouldn't this just make them upside down but still facing the same way? Errr... huh... |
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Post by The Huff on Sept 16, 2018 7:53:33 GMT
Wouldn't this just make them upside down but still facing the same way? Errr... huh... This what I meant  When I think people were hoping for this: (which cannot happen)  Because this happens:  |
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Post by blueshift on Sept 16, 2018 8:51:28 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 16, 2018 8:51:47 GMT
What a twist.
-Ralph
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