Haslab

[Philip Ayres]

2018

Star Wars Vintage Collection Sailbarge tmukhub.proboards.com/post/309919/thread

2019

Sesame Street Cookie Monster tmukhub.proboards.com/post/374621/thread - DID NOT FUND

Transformers Unicron tmukhub.proboards.com/post/375097/thread

2020

Marvel Legends Sentinel tmukhub.proboards.com/post/416360/thread

Star Wars Vintage Collection Razorcrest tmukhub.proboards.com/post/427841/thread

Heroqust Game System tmukhub.proboards.com/post/427912/thread

2021

Transformers Victory Saber tmukhub.proboards.com/post/453653/thread

Marvel Legends Galactus tmukhub.proboards.com/post/453812/thread

Star Wars Black Series Rancor tmukhub.proboards.com/post/460355/thread - DID NOT FUND

GI Joe Retro Skystriker tmukhub.proboards.com/post/461019/thread

Ghostbusters Proton Pack tmukhub.proboards.com/post/461276/thread

2022

Star Wars Force FX Third Sister Lightsaber tmukhub.proboards.com/post/474541/thread - DID NOT FUND

GI Joe Classified HISS Tank tmukhub.proboards.com/post/477001/thread

Marvel Legends Engine of Vengeance tmukhub.proboards.com/post/482494/thread - DID NOT FUND

Heroscape tmukhub.proboards.com/post/483363/thread

Transformers Deathsaurus tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/11834/haslab-deathsaurus

2023

GI Joe Classified Dragonfly tmukhub.proboards.com/post/498595/thread

Star Wars Vintage Collection The Ghost tmukhub.proboards.com/post/501501/thread

Marvel Legends Giant Man tmukhub.proboards.com/post/504620/thread

GhostBusters Ghost Box & PKE Meter tmukhub.proboards.com/post/507591/thread

2024

Transformers Omega Prime tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/12171/haslab-2024-omega-prime

Star Wars Vintage Collection Cantina tmukhub.proboards.com/post/522810/thread

GI Joe Classified Rattler tmukhub.proboards.com/post/525750/thread

[Philip Ayres]

Benson Yee
‏ @bwtf_Ben
2m2 minutes ago

HasLab is Hasbro's new crowdfunding platform to bring dream products into the hands of fans. Launching with #StarWars #HasbroToyFair #NYTF


Benson Yee
‏ @bwtf_Ben
1m1 minute ago

First HasLab item will be the Jabba Skiff! #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #StarWars
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Benson Yee @bwtf_Ben

1m1 minute ago

Skiff would include Jabba. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #StarWars

44s45 seconds ago

Barge has over 2.5 sq feet of display area. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #StarWars

27s28 seconds ago

(Sorry I keep saying Skiff, it's the barge) #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #StarWars

[Benn]

Hasbro needs to crowdfund?

[Fortmax2020]

Less financial risk for Hasbro plus it makes fans feel part of the process?

[Pinwig]

I think I heard said it's a $500 toy, needing 5000 orders to get made. So it's basically Hasbro saying we're only going to make this if we know there's a market.

[Philip Ayres]

More Sail Barge

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www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_Announces_Jabbas_Sail_Barge_179648.asp

imperialholocron.com/hasbro-toy-fair-2018-announcements/

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[Shockprowl]

Woaw. Jabba's Sail Barge....


Woaw.

[Llama God]

Surprised we've not heard anything about Unicron yet, so maybe this is how they'll eventually fund it..?

[Toph]

I'm not buying no bloody $500 Unicron, I tell you what.

[Pinwig]

Could well be. There's nothing to say the HasLab idea is restricted to Star Wars. It's a jump though. If the current Titans retail for $150 and they're saying the sail barge is a $500 toy, a $500 Unicron could well be the four feet that these mega toys like the Flagg & barge seem to be.

[Pinwig]

Feb 18, 2018 10:43:50 GMT Toph said:

I'm not buying no bloody $500 Unicron, I tell you what.

There is that too. I don't think I would either. It would have to be a fantastic playset that could open up to act as the core of a display - if I could use it to display all the movie figures I *might* think about it, but I doubt I'd go that far.

[Benn]

Yeah, it'd be a no from me. Titan class is as far as I'm willing to go, both in terms of size and price.

I mean, who has space for all these titans, combiners and then a Unicron towering over them all?

[Toph]

Star Wars collectors I know are insane enough to drop that much or more on a single new toy.
But it seems TF collectors tend to have an upper limit with a single toy.
It's one thing to drop $400 on an exclusive box set of five or more, but just one gigantic toy? The 3P market even has a hard time with that one.

Those willing to drop that kind of cash on ebay (say for SG Optimus?) certainly are in the minority.

Crowdfunding toys is basically a donation, that you miiiight get something out of in return, yes? So if the crowdfunding fails, you're out the money you put into it?

[Shockprowl]

Crowdfunding?!?!?!!!

What the absolute F#%K is that about?!?!!!

[Shockprowl]

I'd love a 4 foot, or even a me-sized Unicron. But-

a) I couldn't afford it.

b) I wouldn't spend that much on any toy on principle.

c) Where the freak would I put it?

d) I'd get divorced. And rightfully so.


#TitanClassOnlyUnicron

[blueshift]

Feb 18, 2018 11:05:27 GMT Toph said:

Star Wars collectors I know are insane enough to drop that much or more on a single new toy.
But it seems TF collectors tend to have an upper limit with a single toy.
It's one thing to drop $400 on an exclusive box set of five or more, but just one gigantic toy? The 3P market even has a hard time with that one.

Those willing to drop that kind of cash on ebay (say for SG Optimus?) certainly are in the minority.

Crowdfunding toys is basically a donation, that you miiiight get something out of in return, yes? So if the crowdfunding fails, you're out the money you put into it?

What, no. It's like Kickstarter or the Matty Collector stuff. You sign up to gauge interest, and if it hits the minimum number needed for production to go ahead, it does.

Pretty much just like Takara just did with Grand Max

[Toph]

To be fair, I know nothing about what takara did with grand max.

[Pinwig]

They said they'd do a Grand Max repaint if they had 2000 guaranteed pre-orders. I think Hasbro's version would be a little different in that crowdfunding suggests pay up front - if 5000 people pay $500 in advance for the barge, they'll make them. With Hasbro you'd be pretty safe with that, if they have the money up front they should follow through.

What happens with normal kickstarters who fund, take the money from investors and then don't deliver I don't know. Presumably there's a refund clause in it. Certainly you don't fund a kickstarter and hope the end result turns up, the intention is that the business plan is sound enough initially that if they get the money they ask for, they can deliver. Which, as said, wouldn't be a problem with a company the size of Hasbro. All they want to do here is get confirmed interest to make sure they aren't wasting their time.

[Pinwig]

Actually, looking at Kickstarter's FAQs it seems Toph is more correct about this than it seems - there is no guarantee from them that money will be refunded if a successful campaign eventually doesn't deliver. This isn't relevant to the way Hasbro would work this, but it does seem that any refund on a failed funded project is down to the project runner. So you could well fund a project, end up with nothing, and not be able to do anything about it. So in that regard it almost is like a donation in the hope you get something in return.

However, as said, there's no way Hasbro would work like that. If 5000 people paid for a barge, there's no way they wouldn't make it.

[Pinwig]

I just realised that we're probably thinking about this the wrong way. A four foot tall Transformer is impractical because it'd be too awkward to transform - Metroplex is hard enough to wrestle between modes as it is. It would also cost much more than an equivalent sized Star Wars vehicle to make because of the design complexity and parts.

Things this big are playsets designed to display figures (like the Flagg). If I'm spending $500 on a bespoke Transformers toy, I don't need a robot, I need the Ark. Which would also be a fantastic finale for a series about the war on Cybertron. Offer me a four foot Ark ala Jabba's barge with removable panels and space to fit Deluxe/Voyager Transformers and you've got my $500.

[legios]

Feb 18, 2018 12:28:13 GMT Pinwig said:

Actually, looking at Kickstarter's FAQs it seems Toph is more correct about this than it seems - there is no guarantee from them that money will be refunded if a successful campaign eventually doesn't deliver. This isn't relevant to the way Hasbro would work this, but it does seem that any refund on a failed funded project is down to the project runner. So you could well fund a project, end up with nothing, and not be able to do anything about it. So in that regard it almost is like a donation in the hope you get something in return.

Kickstarter is basically an investment decision, and it is subject to the same variances as any other investment decision. Essentially what you are doing is ponying up the funding for someone to make a given product, on the basis of a certain return happening. In this case the return being the product and whatever other "cool stuff" is promised by the project rather than a share dividend. But like any investment, returns are not guaranteed - just as a company can do badly and go under taking your investment with it, so can a kickstarter project(*). They can also run horrendously late(**). There is no guarantee of how well a kickstarter will go - so you need to go in aware that there is a level of risk involved. The worst probably won't happen - but you should be prepared for the fact that it _could_.

Karl



(*) - on at least one occasion a kickstarter basically killed the company that carried it out. RIP Chaosium.

(**) - c.f. Robotech Tactics. I believe that at this point the Wave 2 miniatures for that which were funded about three years ago aren't even at the point of 3D design, let alone sculpted. And most folk don't really expect them to ever materialise.

[The Doctor]

*Jabba laugh*

-Ralph

[legios]

*Salacious Crumb laugh*

Karl

[The Doctor]

Yup, which is why I don't bother with any Kickstarter projects no matter who is behind it or what the project is. It is not a platform I will touch with a bargepole.

-Ralph

[Benn]

*Artoo laugh*

[The Doctor]

*Boba Fett does sod all*

-Ralph

[Shockprowl]

*glares at George Lucas*

[Philip Ayres]

Sail Barge Close Ups

www.rebelscum.com/2018/Hasbro-Haslab-Jabbas-Sail-Barge-Feb22-gallery/

[Stomski]

To be fair, Kickstarter shouldn't be about getting a final product.

Feb 18, 2018 12:02:29 GMT blueshift said:

the Matty Collector stuff.

First thing it reminded me of... Remember the Castle Greyskull campaign?

[Shockprowl]

It's gorgeous, perfect for the one Star Warsian display set of figures I've kept after repeated culls (other than a small but perfectly formed Imperial Garrison), JABBA'S PALACE.


But where the F£$& would I put it?!?!?!?!!!!



WHERE?!?!?!?!!!!