The Huff
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Post by The Huff on Aug 29, 2018 11:09:50 GMT
Brawn was also on fire inside. Are we going to dispute that Ratchet & Ironhide also died? What about Optimus Prime - did he just get better and have a well deserved have a holiday during Unicrons's visit and season 3?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 29, 2018 15:52:10 GMT
If Prowl doesn't die, how can he come back to life as an Action Master??? So... can we agree that he died in the temporary sense but not the permanent sense? I.e. in the not-really-dead sense? I had been assuming we meant 'kill' and 'dead' in the can't come-back-without-divine-intervention-and-by-divine-I-don't-mean-Primus sense, rather than the temporarily-offline-until-repaired sense. In the Earthforce story 'Flashback' Prowl admits to having died twice at the hands of Starscream, and he also died in that sense when the Ark crashed and when Shrapnel splinter-grenaded him. But is that really what we mean by death? The classic characters in the Movie certainly died in that latter sense. (Unless they were decoys.) Martin
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 29, 2018 15:56:56 GMT
I suspect we don't understand what 'death' means to alien robots.
#OptimusWasRight
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 29, 2018 16:14:22 GMT
Brawn was also on fire inside. Are we going to dispute that Ratchet & Ironhide also died? What about Optimus Prime - did he just get better and have a well deserved have a holiday during Unicrons's visit and season 3? There's no evidence that Brawn was on fire inside! Although, given the simple or primative construction as implied by his techspecs ("vulnerable to electromagnetic waves") it is possible that once his armour is breached, only minor damage to his internal systems may render him nonfunctional. But he certainly wasn't on fire! Ratchet was fine! He just got blasted up abit! I bet he could've repaired himself so slight was his damage! Ironhide though... well he took a blast pointblank from Megatron, so.... Optimus was killed (lazy story telling), but he came back, as I understand it in the cartoon universe. As a Powermadter, right? I've not seen it.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 29, 2018 16:24:52 GMT
PRIME DID NOT COME BACK AS A POWERMASTER IN THE CARTOON.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 29, 2018 16:37:32 GMT
PRIME DID NOT COME BACK AS A POWERMASTER IN THE CARTOON. -Ralph THE VIDEO BOX COVER SAYS HE DID! Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 29, 2018 16:50:17 GMT
Yeah, Doc'!
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 29, 2018 17:59:43 GMT
PRIME DID NOT COME BACK AS A POWERMASTER IN THE CARTOON. -Ralph THE VIDEO BOX COVER SAYS HE DID! Martin Don't start me on the tissue of lies that was that video cover!!! -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 29, 2018 18:00:15 GMT
Surely even Shockprowl has seen THE RETURN OF OPTIMUS PRIME?
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 29, 2018 18:24:55 GMT
Negative.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 29, 2018 20:33:48 GMT
Oh come on.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 29, 2018 21:19:03 GMT
How far did your Sunbow watching get then, when you were watching them a few years back.
You realise it you haven't seen The Rebirth Andy will actually ban you from the forum? He made the whole of TFN watch him performing it.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 29, 2018 22:46:08 GMT
How did Shockprowl correctly understand Generation 2 if he didn't see Return of Optimus Prime first??
Or was it the other way round...
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 30, 2018 5:42:34 GMT
You realise it you haven't seen The Rebirth Andy will actually ban you from the forum? He made the whole of TFN watch him performing it. When are Blueshift and Andy going to give us The Rebirth: The Epic Poem? Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 30, 2018 18:26:28 GMT
How far did your Sunbow watching get then, when you were watching them a few years back. You realise it you haven't seen The Rebirth Andy will actually ban you from the forum? He made the whole of TFN watch him performing it. Series one and two ONLY. I can never watch The Movie with my kids 'cos they would be heartbroken and would not enjoy it. And to be honest, other than the awesomeness that is Unicron, I don't really care for The Movie. I've seen bits and bobs of series three, but it looks fairly poor.
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 30, 2018 18:27:28 GMT
I have not seen Rebirth. Andu please don't kill me.
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 30, 2018 18:29:06 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 30, 2018 19:23:55 GMT
I have not seen Rebirth. Andu please don't kill me. *Winces* This is gonna get messy.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 30, 2018 19:25:26 GMT
Indeed. He stood on stage and recited it before an audience. Doing the voices. This is an actual fact, and not a Blueshift 'fact'.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 30, 2018 19:27:00 GMT
And to be honest, other than the awesomeness that is Unicron, I don't really care for The Movie. I've seen bits and bobs of series three, but it looks fairly poor. That, young lady, is no way to behave. Do you have the DVDs?
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 30, 2018 19:30:26 GMT
Indeed. He stood on stage and recited it before an audience. Doing the voices. This is an actual fact, and not a Blueshift 'fact'. Please tell me there's a video. There must be a video!
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 30, 2018 19:34:05 GMT
And to be honest, other than the awesomeness that is Unicron, I don't really care for The Movie. I've seen bits and bobs of series three, but it looks fairly poor. That, young lady, is no way to behave. Do you have the DVDs? I have The Movie, but none of the serieseses after series 2. And I'm sorry, but I just don't like Transformers: The Movie! What's to like?! A complete and unnecessary character switch, the 'apparent' death of Optimus Prime and a bunch of other great older characters (lazy storytelling). I love Ultra Magnus, but they don't do him service in the film. Rodimus Prime sucks ass. The battle at the start has some good bits, and Unicron as a concept is great. But The Movie just... just doesn't deliver.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 30, 2018 19:41:10 GMT
With the information you have provided in the above post I will ensure you are educated correctly.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2018 19:54:52 GMT
How far did your Sunbow watching get then, when you were watching them a few years back. You realise it you haven't seen The Rebirth Andy will actually ban you from the forum? He made the whole of TFN watch him performing it. Series one and two ONLY. I can never watch The Movie with my kids 'cos they would be heartbroken and would not enjoy it. And to be honest, other than the awesomeness that is Unicron, I don't really care for The Movie. WHAT THE FUCK. -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2018 19:55:14 GMT
I have not seen Rebirth. Andu please don't kill me. WHAT THE FUCK. -Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 30, 2018 19:56:13 GMT
Series one and two ONLY. I can never watch The Movie with my kids 'cos they would be heartbroken and would not enjoy it. And to be honest, other than the awesomeness that is Unicron, I don't really care for The Movie. WHAT THE FUCK. -Ralph I've said it before! I'm sure I have. I don't really care much for The Movie! It has some good bits, but otherwise...
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 30, 2018 19:56:40 GMT
With the information you have provided in the above post I will ensure you are educated correctly. Uh-oh.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2018 19:56:51 GMT
Indeed. He stood on stage and recited it before an audience. Doing the voices. This is an actual fact, and not a Blueshift 'fact'. I have seen Andu do this many many times. -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2018 19:57:44 GMT
I've said it before! I'm sure I have. I don't really care much for The Movie! It has some good bits, but otherwise... WHAT THE FUCK. -Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 30, 2018 19:59:32 GMT
With the information you have provided in the above post I will ensure you are educated correctly. Uh-oh. Uh-oh indeed.
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