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Post by Dave on Oct 30, 2012 21:27:08 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 30, 2012 21:30:42 GMT
I very much doubt it. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20146942" Disney said it planned to release a new Star Wars film, episode seven, in 2015. That will be followed by episodes eight and nine and then one new movie every two or three years, the company said." It's going to be run right into the ground. -Ralph |
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Post by blueshift on Oct 30, 2012 21:32:46 GMT
I very much doubt it. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20146942" Disney said it planned to release a new Star Wars film, episode seven, in 2015. That will be followed by episodes eight and nine and then one new movie every two or three years, the company said." It's going to be run right into the ground. -Ralph Ha ha ha ha oh god |
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Post by Dave on Oct 30, 2012 21:48:32 GMT
I dunno, it would be a good selling point.
As for the actual news, no, I'm not expecting this to lead to great new films and I can't say I'm particularly interested in episode 7 and beyond either.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 30, 2012 21:48:36 GMT
Announcements are piling up fast on starwars.com
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Oct 30, 2012 22:06:48 GMT
I was actually kind of glad that it felt like Star Wars had kind of diverted into "sustained by spin-off" territory. I'm not sure that I'm really that excited by the idea of it turning into a Bond-style cinema staple.
Kind of scary to think about how much the Disney corporation actually own in terms of marquee value properties now as well.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 30, 2012 22:19:05 GMT
My mind is still boggling fast over this whole thing. I think I need a lie down.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 30, 2012 22:34:19 GMT
It is a bit fast.
Still, it does mean that Lucas can't really make any more bad Star Wars films.
Andy
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 30, 2012 23:31:33 GMT
Thats an odd one, as much as I love Disney, the idea of them (or anyone else) holding a monopoly doesnt appeal, on the other hand aside from Star Wars and Indiana Jones Lucas Film doesnt have that much else does it?
Lucas wasnt exactly handling either of those very well in many people opinion.
Still Disney/Pixar/Marvel/Lucasfilm does have a pretty firm hold on my childhood and a lot of my current interests too.
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 30, 2012 23:51:22 GMT
Looking at the positives (for me anyway) Pixar and Marvel have been making some of my favourite movies of the last 15 years. If any of the Pixar brain trust especially gets input into future Star Wars films my interest skyrockets.
Also Disneys previous Star Wars co production is Star Tours which bodes well.
And while there can be no logic behind this, my first thought on reading this was. "Yes a new Howard the Duck film".
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Post by Hero on Oct 31, 2012 7:21:48 GMT
Buzz Lightyear would be great in Star Wars.  Good times ahead. |
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Post by Marc Graham on Oct 31, 2012 8:16:59 GMT
Will be intriguing, will this mean more Star Wars themed stuff at Disney resorts?  |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2012 10:53:40 GMT
I demand more Ewok films.
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Post by Nigel on Oct 31, 2012 11:26:17 GMT
Some thoughts I had while walking to buy my Lego and free newspaper this morning, cross-posted from my Facebook page.
At least some of the official expanded universe will surely be thrown out in favour of the films' stories.
The TV series seems likely to be cancelled, or at least put on hold indefinitely, as resources are put into new and ongoing films.
Renewed hope of the original films getting a proper DVD release, likewise Young Indy, Ewoks and Droids in their original episodic forms.
A lot of interesting cross-branding potential.
Might a screen return for Howard the Duck now be more likely?
A Willow remake? Surely Disney will find ways of exploiting Lucasfilm's lesser properties.
An Indiana Jones cartoon series?
Will internationally-originated Lucasfilm comics be killed as with Marvel?
Current plans are for Lucasfilm staff to stay where they are, but what about longer term; might we see, say, ILM merged with Pixar?
An end to tinkering with the films (please)?
Well, one of those is addressed for the time being, seeing as Fox is retaining the rights.
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Post by Jim on Oct 31, 2012 11:28:49 GMT
My mood is one of cautious optimism.
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Post by Nigel on Oct 31, 2012 11:47:08 GMT
I have a lot less negative feeling about this than when Disney bought Marvel, perhaps because I feel that Star Wars became more about commerce than creativity a long time ago. (No pun intended.) I'm keeping an open mind about it, as I can see pros and cons. Plus, it has been pointed out to me that there's now a chance (though realistically still ridiculously small) that I may get to be an extra on a Star Wars film. |
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Post by jameso on Oct 31, 2012 12:10:38 GMT
For better or worse Lucas had complete autonomy over Star Wars since 1980, I don't really like the idea of it now being part of the machine and becoming something like James Bond, a random film brought out every three years with no real connection to one another and it being completely random who the cast, director and writer is.
That it has already been announced that they want a new film in 2015, well, that's like when all the these superhero and kid books films book in a release date as soon the preceeding film's box office figures come in and then the director leaves the project because they know they can't make a good enough film in that arbitary timespan.
I know Star Wars has been a huge multimedia money making corporation for decades, but I've always had this sense of 'George Lucas, last of the independents' sense about it which has kept it separate from most franchises.
Also, I must voice something of a 'will it mess with the continuity' complaint about the post ROTJ expanded universe...
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Post by Nigel on Oct 31, 2012 12:30:13 GMT
I think it's guaranteed that it'll mess with the expanded universe. Although Lucas' new role as Creative Consultant would seem to suggest that there will be a degree of integrity with the internal continuity, I suspect that the title is basically a courtesy and he will have little or no actual involvement (much as Kenneth Johnson was credited as the creator of the V remake yet he had no involvement). But to look at it from Disney's perspective, commercially you have to weigh up the mainstream audience, especially children, who haven't read the books and comics against the fans who have. Much of the expanded universe fiction is now twenty years old (longer with the likes of Splinter of the Mind's Eye) and can be said to be fairly obscure from a mainstream and commercial viewpoint. I'd be surprised and very impressed if Disney were to maintain the integrity of the expanded universe. Of course, there is a commercial argument for them to do so, because of the expanded universe merchandise. (But countering that again, they could have two universes of intellectual properties to mine.)
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Post by Stomski on Oct 31, 2012 14:15:12 GMT
Why don't they reboot this shit and redo all 6 episodes. Seems like a good idea to me. Just to make it different enough to be interesting and with Disney's obtuse level of political correctness, make Chewbacca female.
Also - Luke needs to be 7-10 years old for 4,5,6 so that there's more for kids to buy in to. Yup, Episode 1 remakes of the holy trilogy. You know you want it.
"Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
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Post by Dave on Oct 31, 2012 15:32:59 GMT
I'm sure the reboot will come at some point. Like Nigel I'm hoping for a proper Droids release. Still, it does mean that Lucas can't really make any more bad Star Wars films. On the official site he mentions handing over treatments for 7-9 so depending on how closely they go with them, the next trilogy will have some level of Lucas influence. The "no more bad films!" is a common reaction I'm seeing around and I find it a bit strange. Partly because I continue to be baffled by people not just ignoring the ones they don't like. Another reason is that under the previous arrangement people had 2-4 films they didn't like, now there's the potential for an endless stream of them. I wouldn't expect the next trilogy to fit with post-ROTJ EU, but hopefully they will treat it as an alternate continuation rather than trying to make the EU fit as that would just get ridiculous. |
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 31, 2012 17:03:49 GMT
I would love to see Joss Whedon on board but it seems likely he will be busy on the Marvel side for a while. Not a bad thing, its a shame as Firefly/Serenity suggest it could be my perfect Star Wars.
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Post by Dave on Oct 31, 2012 17:32:17 GMT
Yeah Whedon Star Wars could be interesting. Loved Firefly. I continue to be baffled by people not just ignoring the ones they don't like. To be fair to "people", I have just remembered that the only way to get the Blu-ray extras was to buy the Complete Saga boxset. |
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Post by Jim on Oct 31, 2012 17:40:42 GMT
I don't think I'd like Whedon, I suspect he might make it all a bit too self conscious and talky. His dialogue doesn't seem very Star Wars-y to me.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 31, 2012 19:20:36 GMT
Whedon is signed for Avengers 2 in 2015 which is the same year as Star Wars Episode 7. I would suggest it highly unlikely he could do both, despite half the internet having convinced itself it's happening.
As part of the deal, Disney have purchased story treatments for Episodes 7-9 by George Lucas. I would find it unlikely they are thrown out. Partly for having paid for them and also from a commercial point of view having each film promoted as 'From a story by George Lucas' is a no-brainer. I would not be surprised if purchasing the treatments was a key part of the deal.
And the irony of Star Wars now being part of the studio system is ten miles high.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 31, 2012 21:07:59 GMT
Whedon doesnt have to over see the whole thing, Scripting whether in full or tweaking an existing one is impossible if the basic structure is already in place. If there are issues in the development it wouldn't surprise me if he or people from pixar are asked to have some input.
Episodes I-III could have been improved without significantly changing a single shot if the script had had a polish from someone who cared about dialogue and character as much as Lucas did about the visuals. I want to visit a universe where Aaron Sorkin wrote a full on political drama for I-III.
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Post by Toph on Nov 1, 2012 0:20:46 GMT
Why don't they The Sausages of Mankind this shit and redo all 6 episodes. Seems like a good idea to me. Just to make it different enough to be interesting and with Disney's obtuse level of political correctness, make Chewbacca female. Also - Luke needs to be 7-10 years old for 4,5,6 so that there's more for kids to buy in to. Yup, Episode 1 remakes of the holy trilogy. You know you want it. "Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" Actually, a re.boot wouldn't be a bad thing. Especially if they worked the events of the clone wars into the "original" films. But then, I have no loyalty to the franchise. Never liked a single one, outside of Clone Wars. On topic: This pisses me off, because it'll mean the end of Clone Wars, most likely. Which, as I said, is the only part I actually liked. Though it took me a while, but I've figured out one benefit of this... we may see more Indianna Jones. How could would it be to see Young Indy return as an animated series? |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 1, 2012 11:26:39 GMT
There is an inherent problem with Young Indy.
Nobody cares.
Indiana Jones is an interesting and cool character because he has lived and done things already, I have no interest in watching him learn to be the Indy we all know and love.
An Indy animated show would be fine, young Indy will fare just as poorly as the live-action version.
Andy
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Post by blueshift on Nov 1, 2012 13:11:43 GMT
There is an inherent problem with Young Indy. Nobody cares. Indiana Jones is an interesting and cool character because he has lived and done things already, I have no interest in watching him learn to be the Indy we all know and love. An Indy animated show would be fine, young Indy will fare just as poorly as the live-action version. Andy But Andy, kids can't identify with adult characters. Kids can only watch shows that star kids because they are stupid and unimaginative. That is why the most popular character in Star Wars is young Anakin from Ep 1 |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 1, 2012 13:48:29 GMT
I should say I hated Young Indy when it was first on.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 1, 2012 18:52:57 GMT
Indiana Jones is not an interesting character. He works because he is played by Harrison Ford. Take away Ford and you take away the point of it.
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