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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 3, 2019 8:30:47 GMT
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Post by Toph on Feb 3, 2019 8:55:38 GMT
Maybe "commander class" are a return to old school leaders, or are halfway between leader and supreme?
There's not a lot left to do for combiner sets. I can only think of three offhand that don't require CWIII to provide wholly new molds for. (G2 defensor, pretender monsters, dino king)
And relabelling a box set set of multiple toys as the singular "Commander" seems a bit odd.
Either way, we'll find out in a few weeks.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 3, 2019 9:05:51 GMT
Micromaster bases?
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Post by Toph on Feb 3, 2019 10:45:32 GMT
Plot Twist: "Commander Class" isn't referring to a new price point, but a new character named Commander Class, the leader of Cybertron's Limousine Corps.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 3, 2019 10:54:21 GMT
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Post by Toph on Feb 3, 2019 12:09:54 GMT
Classy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 4, 2019 14:42:49 GMT
Commander Class...
You know something like Scorponok would be decent at a size between Leader and Titan.... I'd been wondering for a while if WFC II might be something Headmaster related
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 4, 2019 15:19:52 GMT
Come on Phil make your predictions in rhyme!
Unless you prefer the medium of mime?
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 4, 2019 16:35:10 GMT
Come on Phil make your predictions in rhyme! Unless you prefer the medium of mime? -Ralph So far that's the best rhyme of Rhyming Week! The Doctor's so cool, so witty, so chic! |
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 6, 2019 20:59:02 GMT
That Jetfire is amazing! Oh wow! But how even more amazing would it be with a little less detail and no mud spray. |
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 6, 2019 21:04:08 GMT
Im gonna withhold judgement for now
as seige seems not to photograph to wow.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 6, 2019 21:10:20 GMT
Oh yes OH YES! Those look AMAZING!
Mirage and Jetfire! My eyes are glazing!
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 6, 2019 21:16:46 GMT
The sizes in this line make me feel drunk
Voyagers and Leaders both have been shrunk
But now there's a new size class it just gets weirder
Is Commander class the same as the old leader?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 6, 2019 21:22:02 GMT
Similar. Prob a smidgen larger
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 6, 2019 21:23:21 GMT
Sounds cool
*Wipes drool*
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Post by Toph on Feb 6, 2019 21:32:20 GMT
11", that puts him around eye to eye with the CW combiners. According to my 12" Black Canary figure.
He's bigger than the already too big CW jetfire.
That is unreasonably huge for a someone better suited to a voyager.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 6, 2019 21:34:54 GMT
Hmmm, yes CJ, that is a concern.
If he's too big, for old sizes I'll yearn.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 6, 2019 21:37:33 GMT
The original toy, and cartoon appearance, was big in comparison to all the other toys. Leader was 6 years back now and this is very cartoon model compared to the other's toy jet form.
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Post by legios on Feb 6, 2019 21:42:17 GMT
Indeed - this is basically the first time that Skyfire has been done (I know they are calling it Jetfire, but basically it is very on model for Skyfire). Bearing in mind that Skyfire was a huge transport aircraft/spacecraft (and when I say huge I mean ridiculously large if you look at the sheer mass of vehicles he can carry) and kept those proportions in his humanoid mode (Compared to Jetfire who turned into a fairly small aircraft - on the kind of size of an Eurofighter or an F-16). Given that I think the size point they've chosen is fairly appropriate for Skyfire.
Karl
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Post by shadowynne on Feb 6, 2019 21:43:40 GMT
Hey! This dudes dress sense is hot! As a matter of fact, I own this bot! |
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 6, 2019 22:24:50 GMT
11", that puts him around eye to eye with the CW combiners. According to my 12" Black Canary figure. He's bigger than the already too big CW jetfire. That is unreasonably huge for a someone better suited to a voyager. Coo, you're right. 11" makes him the same height as Abominus. I know Skyfire was massive in the cartoon, seriously big, but that might be a bit odd next to the new Siege voyagers. However it does make me wonder if this is a new size class - might this be where we finally get a Scorponok? I could go an 11" Scorponok. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 6, 2019 22:39:30 GMT
Phil did raise this possibility when the posts on the class were in the leaks and rumours thread - they're here now the class is confirmed Commander Class... You know something like Scorponok would be decent at a size between Leader and Titan.... I'd been wondering for a while if WFC II might be something Headmaster related |
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Post by Toph on Feb 6, 2019 22:55:05 GMT
The original toy, and cartoon appearance, was big in comparison to all the other toys. Leader was 6 years back now and this is very cartoon model compared to the other's toy jet form. Yeah but this is the same toyline in which Blaster was bigger than Devastator. So toy size isn't a great example. But then I've always found the "skyfire" animation model to be hideous and inelegant. As a kid, I never understood why he was so ugly, and looked nothing like this awesome toy I had of him. To me, it's not jetfire without his iconic booster rockets. I wish they'd started the commander class with Tidalwave. I could support the class at launch, and not feel bad about skipping "skyfire." The rest of the reveals, I honestly have no comment. It's established this line doesn't photograph well, while the CG renders do it no favors either. There's nothing really exciting. Accurate update of Mirage that looks just like his "earth" design, even though he's supposed to be futuristic/alien. We expected that. I didn't know what to expect from impactor, but somehow that's it: an earth tank. I'm sure like Optimus, Sideswipe, and Skytread, that these will all be amazing fun once in hand. But like Optimus, and Sideswipe, and Hound, and Prowl... they're just not very exciting reveals. The best surprise is Countdown. |
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 6, 2019 23:18:16 GMT
I don't understand the love that the fandom has for Skyfire. And personally I've had no problem with the previous two Jetfire toys. If the Commander class is to be a thing, there are far more deserving characters that could use the slot. As the Skyfire episode was one of the few to make it on to UK tv in the mid 80s I have a soft spot for the Skyfire design (though I agree its not really great) and also the character and backstory thats seperate from Jetfire. So even if Generations Jetfire was more recent than it is (bloody hell 6 years!!) I wouldnt object. As for size, while its is a mixed bag when it comes to Blaster or Fort Max, Jetfire/Skyfire was consistantly big in toy, comic and cartoon appearances. Plus I imagine the 11 inches incudes the back pack so at head height he wont be quite that tall. Detailing looks about right to me. |
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Post by Jim on Feb 7, 2019 8:52:33 GMT
were I to diss that Jetfire
it would make me a terrible liar
for though some may find that jet boxy
to my eyes it is rather foxy
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Post by primenova on Feb 7, 2019 12:38:21 GMT
Why the skyfire armour for Jetfire? But like the idea he can carry others
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Post by Llama God on Feb 8, 2019 10:00:10 GMT
The best thing about this reveal for me was that I picked up Big Phil’s message about it just after we’d been denied entry to Mordor due to bad weather. (Yeah I know - there are worse problems to have.)
Jetfire's a conundrum . Much like the Kaptain I really like the T30 Jetfire; well the design, anyway - some executions leave much to be desired. From a design point of view though, he was a really nice bridge between the various different versions of Jetfire, and gave us everything we wanted in one nice package. He’s really good for that.
So now this new version. Yes, he’s an actual realisation of Skyfire/Marvel Jetfire. On the other hand, he’s not as interesting visually as T30 Jetfire. But on that first hand, I have a massive nostalgic soft spot for Marvel Jetfire, because his introduction in the comics was such a massive thing, with the part he played in the whole victory-of-Shockwave storyline. And he was menacing, in a way that Devastator, the other result of that story, was oddly not. But the way his robot mode was drawn in the comics was always slightly less bulky than he appeared in the cartoon. So that’s a negative point. But he does also look fun. So there’s a conundrum...
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 9, 2019 11:55:57 GMT
I posted the Winter Wonderfest preview pics link elsewhere, but Jetfire's there - which explains the early release of the preview pics this week - and you can see how big he is snakas.blog95.fc2.com/blog-entry-6956.html |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 10, 2019 1:08:51 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 10, 2019 8:20:30 GMT
Yes Jamie, it is a big one isn't it.
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