The multipurpose Generations/CHUG retrospective thread

[Shockprowl]

Nov 16, 2020 19:38:01 GMT Toph said:

"Are you medically certified?" The abductee asked the alien after the anal prob.

Probing Texans is my speciality.

[Pinwig]

List redone for the Prowl of Shocks.

1984	First Choice	Other Options
AUTOBOTS
Optimus Prime	Earthrise	Siege Voyager
Bluestreak	Earthrise	Siege
Hound	Siege	Henkei, Specialist, Netflix
Sideswipe	Siege	Netflix
Jazz	Studio 86	RTS
Mirage	Siege/Henkei	Specialist, Classics
Ratchet	Earthrise	Siege
Ironhide	Earthrise	Siege
Prowl	Earthrise	Siege
Sunstreaker	Earthrise
Trailbreaker	Earthrise
Wheeljack	Earthrise	Generations
Brawn	TR Legend
Bumblebee	Netflix	TR Legend
Cliffjumper	Earthrise
Gears	T30	Mechanic Studio 3P
Huffer	Kingdom	Mechanic Studio 3P
Windcharger	PotP
DECEPTICONS
Megatron	Netflix	Siege, Earthrise
Soundwave	Netflix	Siege
Skywarp	Earthrise	Siege
Starscream	Earthrise	Siege
Thundercracker	Earthrise	Siege
Buzzsaw	CW Legend
Laserbeak	Netflix	Siege, TR Legend
Ravage	Classics (Hound)	Netflix, Siege, TR Legend
Rumble	TR Legend	Siege
Frenzy	BB Pack Legend	Selects
1985
AUTOBOTS
Jetfire	Siege
Omega Supreme	Siege
Blaster		TR, FoC
Perceptor	TR
Grimlock	Studio 86/PotP
Slag	PotP
Sludge	PotP
Snarl	PotP
Swoop	PotP
Roadbuster	T30
Whirl	T30
Topspin	TR
Twintwist	TR
Grapple	Earthrise	RTS
Hoist	Earthrise	T30
Red Alert	Siege	Netflix
Skids	Takara Legends	T30
Inferno	Kingdom	PotP
Smokescreen	Earthrise	Siege
Tracks	United/Generations
Beachcomber	PotP
Cosmos	T30
Powerglide	CW
Seaspray	TR
Warpath	Kingdom	Generations
DECEPTICONS
Shockwave	Siege
Dirge	Earthrise
Ramjet	Earthrise
Thrust	Earthrise
Astrotrain	Siege	TR
Blitzwing	TR
Bombshell	CW
Kickback	TR
Shrapnel	T30
Barrage
Chopshop	CW
Ransack
Venom
Bonecrusher	UW	CW
Hook	UW	CW
Longhaul	UW	CW
Mixmaster	UW	CW
Scavenger	UW	CW
Scrapper	UW	CW
1986
AUTOBOTS
Metroplex with Scamper	T30
Six Gun	Siege
Ultra Magnus	Kingdom	CW, Siege
Skylinx	Earthrise	CW
Rodimus Prime	PotP
Wreck-Gar	CW	RTS
Broadside	TR
Sandstorm	T30
Springer	Siege	T30
Blurr	Studio 86	Takara Legends
Hot Rod	Studio 86	PotP Leader, TR
Kup	Studio 86	Takara Legends
Hotspot	CW
Blades	CW
First Aid	CW
Groove	CW
Streetwise	CW
Silverbolt	CW
Air Raid	CW
Fireflight	CW
Skydive	CW
Slingshot	CW
Hubcap	Earthrise
Outback	PotP
Pipes	Kingdom	Mechanic Studio 3P
Swerve	T30	Mechanic Studio 3P
Wheelie	TR
Tailgate	PotP
Ramhorn	TR Titanmaster
Eject	TFSS
Rewind	TR
Steeljaw	TR Stripes
DECEPTICONS
Trypticon with Full Tilt	TR
Brunt	Siege
Galvatron	TR
Cyclonus	Kingdom	CW, Classics
Scourge	Studio 86	TR
Octane	TR
Runabout	Earthrise	TFCC
Runamuck	Earthrise	TFCC
Gnaw	TR
Divebomb	PotP
Headstrong	PotP
Rampage	PotP
Razorclaw	PotP
Tantrum	PotP
Motormaster	CW
Breakdown	CW
Dead End	CW
Dragstrip	CW
Wildrider	CW
Onslaught	CW
Blast Off	CW
Brawl	CW
Swindle	CW
Vortex	CW
Ratbat	Siege
Reflector	Siege	Retail or 3 pack
1987
AUTOBOTS
Fortress Maximus with Cerebros	TR
Cog	Siege
Brainstorm with Arcana	TR/Legends	Walmart reissue
Chromedome with Stylor	TR/Legends	Walmart reissue
Hardhead with Duros	TR/Legends	Walmart reissue
Highbrow with Gort	TR/Legends
Crosshairs with Pinpointer	Siege
Pointblank with Peacemaker
Sureshot with Spoilsport
Doublecross	TR
Grotesque	TR
Repugnus	TR
Fastlane	Takara Legends	TR, Odyssey
Cloudraker	Takara Legends	TR, Odyssey
Punch-Counterpunch	PotP	Odyssey
Scattershot	UW	CW
Afterburner	UW	CW
Lightspeed	UW	CW
Nosecone	UW	CW
Strafe	UW	CW
Chase	TR
Freeway
Goldbug
Rollbar
Searchlight
Wideload
DECEPTICONS
Scorponok with Lord Zarak	Earthrise
Fast Track	Earthrise
Sixshot	TR
Mindwipe with Vorath	TR/Legends	Walmart reissue
Skullcruncher with Grax	TR/Legends
Weirdwolf with Monzo	TR/Legends
Apeface with Spasma	Siege
Snapdragon with Krunk	Earthrise
Misfire with Aimless	Takara Legends
Slugslinger with Caliburst	Takara Legends
Triggerhappy with Blowpipe	Takara Legends
Pounce	Takara Legends	TR, Cybertronian Villains
Wingspan	Takara Legends	TR, Cybertronian Villains
Battletrap	PotP
Flywheels	Siege
Hun-Gurrr	PotP
Blot	PotP
Cutthroat	PotP
Rippersnapper	PotP
Sinnertwin	PotP
Slugfest
Overkill

[Shockprowl]

Nice list.



Although you forgot 'Classics' for Jetfire. I'll concede for most people it would be second choice.

[Benn]

Vehemently disagree with backup Inferno. Henkei or bust

[Jarl]

Hi Guys,

I'm new here and settling in, so before I start, please nudge me in the right direction if I post in the wrong place. I thought I'd tag on here rather than create a new thread.

I am rebuilding my collection, getting rid of my G1's and commemoratives and replacing them with CHUGs.

I was wondering if you had any thoughts on a good fit when it comes to Soundwave and Arcee as both are on my want list.

Just got my hands on a Takara Unite Combaticons set, so expect a full group shot of all I have when it arrives.


EDIT: I'll throw the Constructicons in there as well, as I have seen multiple good arguments for several versions on the market.


Thanks in advance.

[Philip Ayres]

Jan 22, 2021 17:02:07 GMT Jarl said:

I was wondering if you had any thoughts on a good fit when it comes to Soundwave and Arcee as both are on my want list.

Soundwave: the Netflix version currently available from Smyths

Arcee. YMMV: The Earthrise/Kingdom might look better, especially with the backpack removed, but is a rubbish toy. Thrilling 30 Generations is a better toy

[Jarl]

I appreciate the prompt reply. I'll look into both, and yeah, I saw the Soundwave at Smyths, kicking myself for not picking it up when i was there!

[Toph]

The first generations Arcee (i refuse that stupid "thrilling 30" name. Hasbro deserves a kick in the nuts over that) is a better toy than ER, but not by much.
My personal preference is TR Arcee over either.

[The Doctor]

TR Arcee is tops.

-Ralph

[Jarl]

I do like TR Arcee, but she just doesn't do the 1986 Movie justice enough for me.

Right now, there are a few Arcees kicking about missing the stupidly large car parts to make them whole, and as a result are around the £10 mark. I'm seriously considering getting a junker and Cyberverse Arcee and doing a headswap!

[Llama God]

Jan 23, 2021 10:59:33 GMT Jarl said:

I do like TR Arcee, but she just doesn't do the 1986 Movie justice enough for me.

But she's a Headmaster, and thus references the holiest of texts, The Rebirth!

[Jarl]

Jan 24, 2021 12:09:42 GMT Llama God said:

But she's a Headmaster, and thus references the holiest of texts, The Rebirth!

Valid Point. And she also is a true transformer in comparison to her other toys.......


On a CHUG based side note. I got my hands on a Takara Unite Defensor, and a Combiner Wars Groove. So I want to Swap out the Unite Groove (due to scale of vehicle mode). Anyone got any suggestions? I don’t care for Rook, the figure doesn’t appeal and there is no nostalgia factor either, and I’m not willing to pay the £40 price tag for a figure I don’t care about. I am contemplating CW Wheeljack. I also think with very little Modding, CW Ironhide could become a search and rescue truck. CW Sunstreaker would also make a good Neo-Wheel base (For the Micromaster Die-hards like myself).

Also was gonna invest in Springer but can’t decide between Generations Springer and Siege Springer. Generations Springer is a little taller than I would like, but Siege Springers Helicopter Alt Mode looks to much like a car for my liking.

What do you guys think?

[Toph]

Well, if you can get your hands on a cheap enough CW Lightsteed, you can swap it in as red alert. Maybe with a bit of customization.

[Toph]

As for Springer, both are A+ figures.
Though my preference at this point would be Siege Springer for Springer, and to acquire another version of the first Gen Springer for the mold (gen sandstorm, botcon battletrap, or cloud rodimus)

[Pinwig]

Both those Springers are top. I would say it comes down to what you want the robot mode to look like. If you want Movie/G1 cartoon style then Siege, but if you like the more slender IDW look, then T30.

Actually, posability is a factor too. Siege is better weighted so his articulation is better. T30's legs aren't so easy to position because they don't have ankle rockers and he can get top heavy.

[The Doctor]

I think Siege looks better but that T30 is a more fun toy overall.

-Ralph

[Llama God]

I prefer the T30 toy, and not just because I prefer IDW 1.0 continuity over pretty much everything else (although it plays a part, to be sure) but because the T30 toy is just not fun in hand. For me, anyway.

[Jarl]

I might end up with both Springers to be honest. We will see.......

Further update on my Takara Unite Protectobots. I got a re-tooled CW Wheeljack that's been upgraded to stop him being a brick of white as a place holder, but my final decision is CW Trailbreaker. I will remove the side print with the 'ol Pencil Rubber in a drill routine and place a "SWAT" decal on his doors. Then I get me a Trailbreaker Fig and suitable Protectobot stand in.

Also got myself a Siege Sideswipe and Earthrise Sunstreaker. Haven't decided the fate of my Universe versions yet. I will likely sell them on.

[Toph]

toyhax.com/357-for-comb-wars
Reprolabels has a bunch of conversion sets for combiner wars. Maybe you may get some ideas from here?

I stripped off the Trailbreaker details off mine, did a headswap with Ironhide, and kitted it up with Ironhide labels, to turn it into G2 Ironhide.
Then went the Smolder route with the ironhide body now wearing trailbreaker's head.

[Jarl]

Jan 29, 2021 14:03:07 GMT Toph said:

I stripped off the Trailbreaker details off mine, did a headswap with Ironhide, and kitted it up with Ironhide labels, to turn it into G2 Ironhide.
Then went the Smolder route with the ironhide body now wearing trailbreaker's head.

Cheers for the link dude! If I start detailing my bots, it will take me to a whole new level of collecting.... maybe just one or two high detail bots?...........

Both Protectobots and Combaticons turned up today. I don't think my kids understood the words that came out of my mouth as I opened them, and it turned into high-pitched squeals at some point as well. I don't understand why I didn't collect CHUG versions earlier.

The gaps I still want to fill are Soundwave, Arcee and Springer. If that Generations Warpath turns up on ebay, I want that as well. Warpath wasn't on my list, but dang is that Generations model so good looking!

[Jarl]

Sooooo! I picked up a POTP Jazz for less than £10 MISB. Question is, which is a better representation of Jazz?

I have the RTS Jazz, but despite the card he came on being painted, the figure is unpainted making the POTP one more detailed. But the RTS has the "Door Wings". But the POTP one has a sleeker vehicle mode. But the RTS one hides the gun in vehicle mode. But the POTP one has a vehicle mode more fitting of Jazz. But the RTS one has fold out speakers in both vehicle and robot mode. But.... but.... but.....

Help me.......

[Benn]

RtS, easily. It's a better figure all round, and doesn't sacrifice anything for a combiner port.

[Jarl]

Just as I was about to settle on POTP Jazz. I think I need to paint RTS Jazz's face to stop it being all black and that might help.

[Toph]

PotP is a massively mediocre figure. With SS86 out there, you're the first I've seen waffle between RtS and PotP.

The real question is Door wings or car mode. RtS and SS86 are about equal.
Reprolabels has an upgrade set for RtS Jazz to upgrade the lackluster deco.

My advice is to get all three! Use the G2 Conversion set for RtS
toyhax.com/for-classics/951-labels-for-2010-jazz-g2-style.html

And the white Crasher conversion set for PotP
toyhax.com/for-potp/2522-labels-for-potp-smokeout.html

And the SS86 for G1.

[Shockprowl]

PotP Jazz is horse shit. I'd actually rather mold a piece of horse shit into a representation of a robot than play with that thing that insults the very name and character 'Jazz'.

RTS was a beautiful Jazz, but SS86 all the way for me. And I've just paid the balance on him! Woop!

[The Doctor]

RTS Jazz was one of the worst toys I have ever bought. POTP was ok but had that MAGA nonsense on it so I couldn't buy it. I am not sure about SS Jazz. Need to see one in person.

-Ralph

[Bogatan]

I love the RTS mould, one of the best they've made. And yet seeing photos of SS86 Jazz, especially in group shots made me realise just how big an impact the cartoon design of jazz had on me as a kid. I havent watched the cartoon for so long I'd kind of forgotten.

So SS86 Jazz looks like it may be a better Jazz, but that doesnt change the fact the RTS mould is amazing.

[Jarl]

Welp! That was a one sided argument. RTS it is.

[Bogatan]

I was sorting through some boxes of TF, most bought in the last 5 years, not seen them for a while and I was kind of shocked to realise how many of them have been superceded. All those 30th annivasary TFTM sets.

Even TR Octane is feeling a bit redundant after I got the Takara version a few months back. And TR generally. Walmart reissuing better versions of the actual headmasters. So many of the rest already getting far better versions.

Titans Returns and Siege, great for Hasbro I guess but as a fan so little of it feels worthwhile.

[Bogatan]

POTP Jazz makes an alright update of Pretender Jazz if thats something you want in your life.

And its a combiner limb so you can sub it on to a combiner if you want one of the good limb figures in robot mode.