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Post by The Doctor on Jun 9, 2020 19:50:42 GMT
Grapple could also get a green Hauler repaint. I can see that being a Selects or store exclusive filler. -Ralph I don't think Green Hauler has quite the appeal for a store exclusive - besides in the show he's yellow and is obviously Grapple. Yup, but we've had a green 'Hauler'repaint of a Grapple mould before. Obvious repaint potential for this new mould. Maybe in the Netflix or Selects lines. -Ralph -Ralph |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 9, 2020 21:05:07 GMT
Grapple could also get a green Hauler repaint. I can see that being a Selects or store exclusive filler. -Ralph But Hauler isn't green! He's a slightly darker orange... |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 9, 2020 21:06:41 GMT
Grapple could also get a green Hauler repaint. I can see that being a Selects or store exclusive filler. -Ralph I don't think Green Hauler has quite the appeal for a store exclusive - besides in the show he's yellow and is obviously Grapple. NO! Hauler was NOT Grapple! He was HAULER! |
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 9, 2020 21:50:46 GMT
Grapple could also get a green Hauler repaint. I can see that being a Selects or store exclusive filler. -Ralph But Hauler isn't green! He's a slightly darker orange... Indeed. Hauler was not green in the cartoon but a repaint Grapple was once made which was green. I think it was around the start of the Sunstorm madness. Jings, Sunstorm. Remember when that was a thing? -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 9, 2020 21:52:23 GMT
I don't think Green Hauler has quite the appeal for a store exclusive - besides in the show he's yellow and is obviously Grapple. NO! Hauler was NOT Grapple! He was HAULER! If coloured jets in the background of blurry panning shots can get names and personalities then Hauler (NAMED ON SCREEN AND ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING) is real! HAULER. -Ralph |
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Post by The Huff on Jun 9, 2020 22:50:06 GMT
Hauler was Grapple called Hauler. Or Grapple was once going to be called Hauler and released in the 1984 range.
They were supposed to be the same guy.
If Hauler was released as planned the name Grapple wouldn't have existed.
Hoist and Hauler has a nice ring to it.
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Post by Toph on Jun 9, 2020 23:07:00 GMT
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Post by Dezzeh on Jun 10, 2020 6:28:00 GMT
I am trying to get one of the green Grapples, but they are pricey. It's fine, it will happen. It's fine.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 10, 2020 7:43:59 GMT
NO! Hauler was NOT Grapple! He was HAULER! If coloured jets in the background of blurry panning shots can get names and personalities then Hauler (NAMED ON SCREEN AND ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING) is real! HAULER. -Ralph Green Hauler was not real till they made the E-Hobby toy to distinguish him from from Grapple..... But Green Hauler isn't in the Cartoon! www.tfu.info/2003/Cybertron/LoadHauler/loadhauler.htmtfwiki.net/wiki/Load_Hauler For all intents and purposes it's easier to consider the Cartoon appearance a misnamed Grapple appearance and that Grapple was on the Ark. |
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Post by Toph on Jun 10, 2020 8:04:42 GMT
Well, as almost no 85 character got an explanation as to why they were suddenly there, you kinda gotta assume they were all on the Ark.
Roadhauler from ER Grapple is the exact sorta thing we could have expected from botcon or the club, this year.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 10, 2020 8:50:28 GMT
The E-Hobby toy of Roadhauler annoys me on multiple levels and has done for many years. Thank you all for bringing this back to the surface and I will now be forced to vent on this matter! For a start, as we've covered, it's not the same colour as the Hauler in the cartoon, mainly because "what's the point?" The Hauler in the cartoon IS Grapple. Then there's the colours they did choose. If you're going to use a green like that on a crane, go the whole hog and whack a Decepticon badge on it too!!!!! (Where's my Scavenger repaint of Armada Hoist?) E-Hobby toys irritate me in general by being unobtainable when they initially came out and now being "HOW MUCH?? ?? ?? ?? ?? " but at there's a particularly odd phase round here where the E-Hobby Collectors Edition line - tfwiki.net/wiki/Collector%27s_Edition - is doing repaints of toys that haven't had a general release Takara reissue - Anime Streak, Clampdown and Hauler are repaints of Bluestreak, Red Alert & Grapple who had at that point only been done as limited exclusives and, as far as I can see, still haven't had a standard Japanese reissue but were done in the US Commemorative Series tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Transformers_Collectiontfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Encoretfwiki.net/wiki/The_Transformers:_Generation_One_Commemorative_SeriesI would say that E-Hobby decos tend to be ring fenced, and not turn up elsewhere, but I note Deepcover is on the Netflix rumours list tmukhub.proboards.com/post/410663/thread |
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Post by The Huff on Jun 10, 2020 8:57:54 GMT
If Hauler is his own person (which he was retconned to be) then a proper accurate toy of him needs to be orange.
On that note are Trailblazer and Sweep The Dinobot their own characters?
Is Skyfire Jetfire?
And are there four Rumble/Frenzy characters? (Actually, that would solve a lot of problems).
I will also always see Buster as just the comic version of Spike. I know Spike later turned up, but I just have trouble accepting it. It should have just been Buster becoming Fort Max - perhaps with the codename Spike if it needed to match the toy.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 10, 2020 9:34:30 GMT
PHIL'S MADNESS GROWS BY THE DAY!
He denies Hauler! Hauler, who IS REAL.
Does he also therefore deny Sunstorm? Acid Storm? Hotlink?
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 10, 2020 9:37:41 GMT
HAULER IS NOT GRAPPLE. HE IS HIS OWN PERSON.
#STANDUPFORHAULER
-Ralph
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Post by The Huff on Jun 10, 2020 9:55:30 GMT
I guess if Hauler were to be treated as his own character and he looks identical to Grapple in vehicle mode - he could always have a completely different robot mode. Transforming in a completely different way. Toy wise there is no need for him to be the same mould as Grapple at all. Hasbro should do this and I'll accept him as his own person.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 10, 2020 10:56:41 GMT
The guy in the original cartoon was blatantly Grapple going by the name of Hauler. Presumably Hauler was the name Uncle Bob had in mind originally, but it got changed before the toy came out. If Bumblebee can change his name to Goldbug, and Divebomb can change his name to Swoop, then Hauler can change his name to Grapple.
Green Hauler can be a different character to Grapple. But green Hauler wasn't in the cartoon.
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Post by The Huff on Jun 10, 2020 11:15:36 GMT
Green Hauler isn't even called Hauler - he is Roadhauler. Or sometimes Loadhauler.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 10, 2020 11:22:06 GMT
But never Big Hauler. Though Big Hauler was also green.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 10, 2020 11:26:57 GMT
(If Big Hauler tows Erector's trailer, does he become Grapple-Hauler?)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 10, 2020 11:52:38 GMT
Or Big Erector?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 10, 2020 11:54:17 GMT
Wrong thread, Phil...
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 10, 2020 12:54:53 GMT
Grapple is the False One here. Hauler was on screen and doing stuff long before the pretender to the throne appeared! He was named! He is as real as any of the other Autobots in ARRIVAL FROM CYBERTRON.
Grapple is the LATECOMER!!!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 10, 2020 12:55:55 GMT
Sunstorm wasn't in the cartoon yet everyone thinks he is real!
Yet Hauler is realer!!!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 10, 2020 12:56:22 GMT
Roadhauler is not Hauler.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 10, 2020 13:01:18 GMT
He was named! He is as real as any of the other Autobots in ARRIVAL FROM CYBERTRON. Agreed. But that doesn't mean he didn't go on to change his name to Grapple. Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 10, 2020 13:13:31 GMT
There is no proof!
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Post by The Huff on Jun 10, 2020 13:47:40 GMT
I think the confusion here is:
It WAS Grapple that pulled Hound up in the first episode, but Casey Kasem just mis-read his script and delivered the line wrong.
He read it as:
Cliffjumper: "Hauler! Pull him up!"
Whereas it actually read as:
Cliffjumper (Holler): "Pull him up!"
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Post by Toph on Jun 10, 2020 18:11:00 GMT
Get Siege Grapple as Grapple, and repurpose RtS Solar Grappel as Hauler.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 10, 2020 18:51:47 GMT
HAULER RULES!
Grapple drools!
...err, oil, dirty oil, from his unclean lie-tubes.
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Post by The Huff on Jun 10, 2020 19:02:33 GMT
Grapple has done much more than Hauler in his life!
Let's see - Grapple has created buildings on Cybertron, built Omega Supreme, teamed up with the Constructicons and built a solar power tower, fought Scourge, used a massive grabby claw thing to clear rubble, Held a boulder above his head when captive for hours (rather than take the easy option of just putting it to one side), fought valiantly in the battle of Autobot City, talked, pulled Hound out of a pit and erm, existed.
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