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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 17, 2024 18:08:57 GMT
The animations are variable but you cannot skip them!!! -Ralph I won't again. I swear! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 20, 2024 8:04:28 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Apr 20, 2024 8:16:33 GMT
After the Conjunx dithered over whether or not there was anything she wanted to put on the telly last night I pounced and watched The Greatest Show in the Galaxy, which, to my surprise, was really good - easily up there with Remembrance. My main trepidation going in was that it was a four parter, and in the previous season those had all been overlong, with lots of repetition in the story - in this one it really didn't feel like it, despite there being multiple captures and escapes it still felt like each one progressed the story rather than just filling air time. Instead of being cheesy, the clowns were actually scary, with the lead clown being particularly good. And a very nice little poke at fandom in the episode, too. Also Mags was very cute - a shame we didn't get to see more of her (yes I know she's in the audios - everyone is). Very good.
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Post by legios on Apr 20, 2024 12:44:18 GMT
I have fond memories of Greatest Show in the Galaxy. It has a wonderfully "unreal" feeling to it, as if everything is just slightly off-kilter, which makes it an intriquing story to watch. I love the sense it gives of the McCoy Doctor being someone who goes off to face eldritch and unknowable horrors armed only with a stage-magician's sleight-of-hand and a half-functional plan. (I much prefer the Time's Champion who _had_ a plan before the first episode of the story, but that the actual story is of him improvising on the spot as events cause things to spiral out of his control - Remembrance, Greatest Show - to the one who already has foreknowledge of how everything is going to work at every stage and is just puppetering the villains, his companions and the innocent bystanders.)
Mags is great, too - one of a number of folk who shoulda/coulda/woulda been companions in that era, but I think the actor is interesting enough that they could have made her work as an continuing character.
Karl
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 20, 2024 14:38:45 GMT
I think the McCoy era has several under appreciated classics; alongside Greatest Show you also have Happiness Patrol and Paradise Towers. They're great stories.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 20, 2024 14:45:07 GMT
Happiness Patrol is fab. Currently rewatching Paradise Towers and it has aged well.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Apr 20, 2024 15:57:35 GMT
Yeah, I love Happiness Patrol - it is mostly remembered amongst civilians as "the one where Bertie Bassett is the monster". But it is actually a much more thoughtful story than that - there is a surprising amount about authenticity, and the modern worlds tendency to smother that under layers of plastic "Have a Nice Day!".
Paradise Towers is slightly wobbly in places (and I do think a certain actor needed a Paddy Russell-esque scolding about being a bit more professional in their approach to their part) but there is something kind of unnerving against a tower block gone feral, it's inhabitants effectively boarded in and abandoned. And the idea of the Cleaner bots is a marvelously 2000ADish one - residents make a mess, therefore residents must be cleaned up. (Also, the sheer ambition in trying to do something Ballardian on tuppence-ha'penny and BBC lighting regulations is just such glorious madness)
Karl
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Post by Llama God on Apr 21, 2024 8:43:15 GMT
I liked the general vibe and the ideas behind Paradise Towers - it certainly has a very unsettling feel to it. It does suffer though from being overlong - it could have easily been trimmed down to three episodes and not lost anything much.
Happiness Patrol is better, and benefits from being restricted to only three episodes, as well as having its satire and commentary being a lot tighter.
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:13:58 GMT
Second really is excellent. I wish he was in colour. And, you know, complete 'n"all that.
I continue to struggle with the animated ones. It's marvellous they exist and clearly a tremendous amount of work has gone into them. But they're clearly very different.
So... for now... I am skipping a few. I won't lie. Just a few. I fully intend to go back to these stories, I know I'm missing out, but it's something I must do because find myself watching other things instead of Hoop, because it's an animated.
So, I'm currently just starting Croutons.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 23, 2024 21:21:33 GMT
Are you watching the serials which are partly existing/partly animation?
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 23, 2024 21:39:14 GMT
THEESE IZ A WORRRRRRRNNNNNNIIIIIIIIING.
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:40:47 GMT
Are you watching the serials which are partly existing/partly animation? -Ralph I started to but .. it just breaks the rhythm for me. Don't be angry. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 23, 2024 21:41:04 GMT
Let's be VERY clear on this one: So, I'm currently just starting Croutons. Despite them having one and two episode animated, you did watch Web of Fear and The Invasion didn't you? |
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:41:47 GMT
THEESE IZ A WORRRRRRRNNNNNNIIIIIIIIING. I know. I love Croutons, but these folks seem to really dislike them. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:44:50 GMT
Let's be VERY clear on this one: So, I'm currently just starting Croutons. Despite them having one and two episode animated, you did watch Web of Fear and The Invasion didn't you? .......... (Shit. Big Phil's gonna kick off. If I keep really still he won't see me. Then I'll go back and watch Web and Invasion before he notices anything. This will work out just fine.) |
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:46:28 GMT
I've just watched the Second Doctor and Zoe having what I can only describe as orgasms.
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 23, 2024 21:49:58 GMT
Yes, you are going to be in the shit big time if you don't watch those. Web is six glorious episodes and only one is (badly) animated. Invasion is eight episodes of magnificence and only two are animated. No excuses. They're essential.
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:52:54 GMT
(Oh dear gods, Pinwig's kicking off now. I need to keep really really still and he won't see me either.)
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Post by legios on Apr 23, 2024 21:53:57 GMT
Web is also an absolutely stonking story, and it would be a genuine shame it you didn't see it. One of the true classics, and most of it is still present to be enjoyed in its full glory.
Karl
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:54:33 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 23, 2024 21:55:06 GMT
I see the internet has exploded this evening with the rage being vented about how the Beatles don't look like the Beatles in the new Ep2 publicity image. From the not-we I understand that, but there's over 600 comments on DWM's Facebook post of their new cover with the image about how terrible the likenesses are. I can't see one comment from anyone who's thought this through for a few seconds and wondered if perhaps that's the point...
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 23, 2024 21:55:06 GMT
YOU MUST ALSO WATCH 'THE MOONBASE'.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:56:05 GMT
Web is also an absolutely stonking story, and it would be a genuine shame it you didn't see it. One of the true classics, and most of it is still present to be enjoyed in its full glory. Karl (Ok! Ok! Bloody hell, I get it already! ...still keeping really really still. If I can't see you, you can't see me.) |
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 23, 2024 21:57:16 GMT
Right, look Shockers. You've been told by Karl. That's how serious this situation is. The big guns have been brought out.
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:57:49 GMT
YOU MUST ALSO WATCH 'THE MOONBASE'. -Ralph (If I can see him, he can't see me.) |
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 21:58:34 GMT
Right, look Shockers. You've been told by Karl. That's how serious this situation is. The big guns have been brought out. (If I can't see him, then he can't see me.) |
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 23, 2024 21:59:40 GMT
NOBODY DESTROYS JULIUS SILVERSTEIN'S COLLECTION! NOBODY!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 23, 2024 22:02:26 GMT
I see the internet has exploded this evening with the rage being vented about how the Beatles don't look like the Beatles
I am he
As you are he
As you are me
And we are all together
See how they run,
Like pigs from a gun,
See how they fly.
I'm crying.
Sitting on a cornflake,
Waiting for the van to come.
Corporation tee shirt,
Stupid bloody Tuesday
Man, you been a naughty boy,
You let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, (Ooh)
They are the eggmen, (Ooh)
I am the walrus!
Goo goo g' joob! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 23, 2024 22:59:14 GMT
Let's be VERY clear on this one:Despite them having one and two episode animated, you did watch Web of Fear and The Invasion didn't you? .......... (Shit. Big Phil's gonna kick off. If I keep really still he won't see me. Then I'll go back and watch Web and Invasion before he notices anything. This will work out just fine.) I am very VERY disappointed in Shockprowl :-( After the Krotons, and before Seeds of Death, you watch The Moonbase, Web of Fear and The Invasion in that order. I know where you live |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 23, 2024 23:01:46 GMT
THEESE IZ A WORRRRRRRNNNNNNIIIIIIIIING. I know. I love Croutons, but these folks seem to really dislike them. Krotons is brilliant. First Troughton I ever saw during Five Faces of Doctor Who in 1981. Doctor turns up, doesn't like what he sees so turns things over in a day or so. Brilliant. And it's the Doctor Who debut for writer Robert Holmes! Second story directed by David Maloney, second story script edited by Terrence Dicks. |
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