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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 28, 2010 14:19:17 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 28, 2010 16:57:44 GMT
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Post by legios on Sept 28, 2010 21:07:34 GMT
It is fair to say that my first reaction to this was along the lines of "they did want now? Are they feeling quite well?"
It is very definitely something that I wouldn't have expected in a milion years.
Karl
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 28, 2010 23:31:03 GMT
It is a bit of a head-scratcher.
Andy
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Post by kayevcee on Sept 29, 2010 7:13:20 GMT
It's possible he's learned the right lessons from his time at Marvel and his "if I'd known then" perspective will actually help DC out of their present lull. It's also possible that he's an eejit who will drive the company into even more trouble and nudge it ever closer to becoming just a license holder waiting patiently for the next Batman movie to come out so they can pay everybody.
Time will tell.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 29, 2010 21:36:58 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 22, 2011 16:28:24 GMT
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Post by legios on Mar 22, 2011 21:07:52 GMT
By all accounts she was quite a good editor, so I'd tentatively rate that as good news.
Karl
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 23, 2011 14:57:06 GMT
PAD speaks highly of her.
Andy
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 23, 2012 22:06:06 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2012 17:15:43 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2012 17:19:24 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2012 18:21:15 GMT
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2012 21:20:06 GMT
I've had my moments of venting about my employers on twitter, but Liefeld's gone a bit far here. Nice to see Brubaker showing more class.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2012 21:22:36 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 25, 2012 21:22:45 GMT
At first it was interesting and reasonably level headed but the pops he's had at Scott Snyder and Marvel's Tom Brevoort are out of order.
Guess he's only going to be doing his own stuff from now on.
Andy
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2012 21:59:35 GMT
I just saw he's published photos of DM exchanges between himself and Scott Snyder, but they only make Snyder look reasonable and him childish. It's a bit sad really.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 25, 2012 22:02:36 GMT
Yeah saw that too.
I agree, he does look childish.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 25, 2012 22:11:29 GMT
It's been a while since the last comic creator meltdown. What is it with comic folk? When they lose the plot they really go for the full scorched Earth approach!!!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Aug 25, 2012 22:40:29 GMT
Wow, he is in full-on meltdown mode!
Though to be fair, I think he's right in saying that sales of Batman books are due to it being Batman, not down to whatever the writer is doing. That's just how things work. Don't need to be a douche and insult people over it though!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 25, 2012 22:44:49 GMT
Wow, he is in full-on meltdown mode! Though to be fair, I think he's right in saying that sales of Batman books are due to it being Batman, not down to whatever the writer is doing. That's just how things work. Don't need to be a douche and insult people over it though! I think that's nonsense. Yes there will be name recognition attached so it might not plummet too far but individual creators do make a difference on the books. Batman might be popular as a character - Justice League was the big book for DC with Johns/Lee - Batman with Snyder and Capullo outsells it. I stuck with it, it's the only new 52 book I managed to get into double digits with - it is that good. Andy |
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Post by blueshift on Aug 25, 2012 23:04:25 GMT
Wow, he is in full-on meltdown mode! Though to be fair, I think he's right in saying that sales of Batman books are due to it being Batman, not down to whatever the writer is doing. That's just how things work. Don't need to be a douche and insult people over it though! I think that's nonsense. Yes there will be name recognition attached so it might not plummet too far but individual creators do make a difference on the books. Batman might be popular as a character - Justice League was the big book for DC with Johns/Lee - Batman with Snyder and Capullo outsells it. I stuck with it, it's the only new 52 book I managed to get into double digits with - it is that good. Andy Individual creators do make a difference sure, but not a HUGE difference apart from rare cases (ie Geoff Johns on Green Lantern) |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 26, 2012 3:03:45 GMT
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Post by Jaymz on Aug 26, 2012 11:03:54 GMT
Individual creators do make a difference sure, but not a HUGE difference apart from rare cases (ie Geoff Johns on Green Lantern) Dunno about figures across the board, but I sell 3 times as many Snyder Batman than before Snyder, whereas Johns Green Lantern is only 2 times what it was pre-Johns. |
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Post by blueshift on Aug 26, 2012 12:22:48 GMT
Individual creators do make a difference sure, but not a HUGE difference apart from rare cases (ie Geoff Johns on Green Lantern) Dunno about figures across the board, but I sell 3 times as many Snyder Batman than before Snyder, whereas Johns Green Lantern is only 2 times what it was pre-Johns. I'm pretty sure Green Lantern post-Rebirth is a lot healthier than it was pre, but I'll give you that, fair enough. |
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Post by Jim on Aug 26, 2012 13:15:50 GMT
I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
The New 52 brought in a lot of people who beforehand barely considered reading a DC title (including me), and I think a lot of those would be attracted to the well-known / iconic characters. Then people stuck with the titles they picked up that were actually pretty good. Hence Batman gets a big boost by both being Batman (he's Batman) and by having a team creating comics people liked.
Before the new 52 I would have happily read a Batman book by a good creative team but have always been put off by either the inter-Bat-title cross-overs or the DC-wide cross-overs. It looked completely inaccessible to me.
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Post by Jaymz on Aug 26, 2012 18:13:19 GMT
Of the New 52, Batman is the only title that I have held consistent [and high] order numbers on, every other title has dropped. Some more than others, but Liefeld did add some numbers to the titles he took over [mostly to the one which had Lobo in it, mainly because it had Lobo in it].
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 4, 2012 13:57:05 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 4, 2012 19:01:18 GMT
And so DC continues its controlled flight into the ground.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Dec 4, 2012 20:04:32 GMT
And so DC continues its controlled flight into the ground. -Ralph No Ralph you see, if you get rid of all your talented staff you can totally do the same job by getting really low paid people to multitask stuff way above their station and it'll be the same outcome. That's what every other organisation is doing nowadays! |
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