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Post by The Doctor on Aug 18, 2015 12:45:18 GMT
As it is a direct threat to the funding of my line of work I'll be sure to use it to go the job I may not have anymore!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 18, 2015 14:10:01 GMT
But the Tram must live!
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 18, 2015 14:25:08 GMT
The tram MUST live!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 18, 2015 15:00:10 GMT
*Murmers* Mega...tram...
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 18, 2015 20:10:44 GMT
Why throw away your trams so recklessly!
*gurns*
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 18, 2015 20:53:03 GMT
SPECIAL TRAMS!
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 18, 2015 21:11:17 GMT
*sits bolt upright*
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 19, 2015 17:44:03 GMT
Fuck the trams.
Seriously. Vanity project that we will never be done paying for.
Andy
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 17, 2015 9:35:01 GMT
Trams now trialling running earlier so people might be able to get some early flights. Still not as good as the airport bus...Apparently they have also been successfully entered into some light railway customer satisfaction competition as well. |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2015 11:40:17 GMT
Still not a 24 hour service such as the award-winning 'every 10 mins' Airport bus which is supplemted at night by the N22 Night Bus which also goes to the airport.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 18, 2015 9:21:06 GMT
Not new news as such but the BBC have just cottoned on to the several-thousand job losses due at Edimburger Council. Services are already at threadbare level with wages of other services which contract from the Council being driven down to zero-hour contracts or minimum wage. I guarantee not one penny will be lost from the tram subsidy or 1 job dropped from the shell company running it. Mark my words.
-Ralph
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Post by browny87 on Sept 18, 2015 9:25:06 GMT
a positive word in defence of the tram;
I use the tram 2-3 times a year in Edinburgh, I go up for the Rugby union at Murray field and its a great way to get to and out of the ground, its a great service in that respect!
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Post by legios on Sept 18, 2015 15:11:39 GMT
Good to see the BBC have finally cottonned on to what has been going on at Edinburgh Council for quite a while now. I'm not surprised to find that the job losses are up in the thousands, back when I was still working in housing in Edinburgh they were already scrapping for the marginal savings. (When central finance say that Council staff can no longer be allowed to provide a plate of biscuits for their colleagues from other organisations coming in for a meeting, or a flask of coffee, because it can no longer be fitted into the budget you can tell that not only are they cutting into the meat but the knife is going into the bone). Sadly, CEC is still bound to indemnify the tram company for any shortfall on their profit projections for another two years, so it will be at least that long before the tram even has to approach financial viability, and it will be a drain on the cities finances until at least that period is up.
And in the meantime Edinburgh, like the rest of Scotland is watching the slow death of services which we have taken for granted in this country, and once made us one of the more civilised nations in the world...
Karl
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 7, 2015 15:36:47 GMT
Somewhat predictably the latest inquiry will find out only what went 'wrong' but not why the tram project still pressed ahead despite going so wrong. And will not look into who is to blame. And lots of people and groups don't seem to be able to called or held to account because of a tangle of blurred lines of responsibility and accountability... Could that have something to do with it all one wonders... no... Tram Saga Continues. |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 7, 2015 16:49:28 GMT
What a waste of a further few million pounds of public money at a time of savage cuts to services.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 7, 2015 17:51:39 GMT
Two million set aside by Edinburgh Council to defend themselves instead of just being open about it all...
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 19, 2015 10:25:27 GMT
I look forward to the eventual dramatised TV story of the Trams in a decade or so.
Andy
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 19, 2015 11:54:13 GMT
It will be on STV Edinburgh!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 18, 2015 14:32:49 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 19, 2015 18:31:50 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2015 18:36:07 GMT
What a shock.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 19, 2015 18:37:12 GMT
Sickening...
Andy
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Post by legios on Nov 19, 2015 19:15:56 GMT
"...a growing demand for public transport in Edinburgh." I call shenanigans on that. The increase in Tram passengers isn't because more people are taking public transport, it is because people whose bus services have been cut have had to use the tram instead... And I love how they say that "it won't cost anything" because it can be met from a dividend from Lothian Buses. So, does CEC have the controlling shareholding in Lothian Buses then? Also, it will be met entirely from a private company, so they will be asking for money from the Scottish Government to fund it... Ummmm. (Also, they want my tax money so Edinburgh can have three miles of extra tram track? Eh, Naw! As they say up here. I wonder how Nicola Sturgeon would take it if I exercised my democratic right and balloted myself on becoming Independent from Scotland? (Star Saber has already offered to serve as my Minister of War. But so has Maximilian Jinais so I think one way or another that post and Minister for Aviation are filled...) Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2015 20:37:47 GMT
How many more cuts to services must there be to fund trams along a corridor that has buses going along it literally every minute?
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 19, 2015 22:29:30 GMT
(Not) Looking forward to the costs of this spiralling out the windows.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 26, 2015 16:47:35 GMT
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Post by Benn on Nov 26, 2015 20:23:47 GMT
"Anything you can do..."
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Post by blueshift on Nov 26, 2015 20:29:50 GMT
I went on a tram today.
It was like a train but slower and more expensive.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 27, 2015 0:16:47 GMT
If Glasgow gets Trams, I wonder if more cities will pipe up. It's the transport equivalent of "I'm Spartacus!"
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Post by kayevcee on Nov 27, 2015 10:49:11 GMT
The thing is, the Glasgow tramline proposed goes from the airport to a train station on the outskirts of the city. It doesn't involve tearing up the city centre for years on end. It would be convenient to have a rail link to the airport, so passengers aren't reliant on taxis or the bus to the city centre that is either quick and efficient or an exercise in frustration depending on traffic. Somebody on a discussion last night pointed out that a rail link that goes past Braehead would be even better because Braehead is a gigantic shopping centre in the arse end of nowhere that's actually quite hard to get to from most of the rest of the city. It's not that far from the airport, either.
EDIT Oh wait, I was thinking of the light rail line. They want the tram to run to Glasgow Central. NEVER MIND.
-Nick
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