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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 12, 2015 13:36:06 GMT
The legs I think are an oddity that has escaped too much criticism because of the other more visible faults, but the feet do look like an oddly folded up collection of offcuts that don't fit anywhere else. I'm not having this business that he's bound to be an odd looking robot because his alt mode is a van, so it's hard to get a good looking robot out of what is just a box. Piffle. The amount of people on that tfw thread defending it on the basis that 'its a hard altmode to get a good robot mode from' beggars believe. It's a box! It's the easiest altmode to get a robot mode from! Damn right! Especially as we could have had a great big huge M.A.R.B. to hide cartoon accurate arms, legs, pelvis, PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 12, 2015 13:40:43 GMT
He looks okay, but he has a giant crotch and the face looks off. Though the fact I can moan about something like that on a Masterpiece Ironhide of all things indicates that maybe we're all a bit spoiled! Spoiled?! Spoiled, sir?!?! NO!!! NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! This is IRONHIDE and RATCHET we're talking about here! Two pivotal A-list characters which haven't had a good showing since Diacloooonnneeee! THEY, WE, DEMAND PERFECTION!!!! |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 12, 2015 14:19:16 GMT
Yeah that logic is ridiculous. The reason it looks funny is that its based on an animation model that had little if any relation to a physical three dimensional toy. When the models are closer to the base toy you get details like wheels on the shoulders or legs and other recognisable vehicle parts dotted around the robot mode. Ironhide and ratchet only have van fronts stuck on to a generic robot. That's the nub right there. Spot on. The animation model itself doesn't look like our perceptions of Ironhide, so the toy stood no chance. |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 13, 2015 16:50:42 GMT
Exactly. The Kaptain and myself had a chat about that. Essentially if you want the robot to look like the Sunbow animation model it either needs to be done at a much higher-cost (around the $200) mark or as a non-transforming action figure. As folk have said the animation model just was not designed with the thought of how to translate it into a transforming toy. I think this MP Ironhide is as close as can be got to it at the price-point. I can well understand folk being disappointed but sadly not every animation model can be replicated in a 3-d transforming toy.
In some pics the robot mode looks a bit 'meh' to me personally. Sometimes I think it looks ok. The van mode looks excellent: Diaclone brought back to life. The more I look at pics though the more MP Ironhide feels like a toy to me rather than as a collectors piece as such, which is probably why it's one of the few Masterpiece toys that I am finding myself drawn to...
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 13, 2015 17:07:29 GMT
Exactly. The Kaptain and myself had a chat about that. Essentially if you want the robot to look like the Sunbow animation model it either needs to be done at a much higher-cost (around the $200) mark or as a non-transforming action figure. As folk have said the animation model just was not designed with the thought of how to translate it into a transforming toy. I think this MP Ironhide is as close as can be got to it at the price-point. I can well understand folk being disappointed but sadly not every animation model can be replicated in a 3-d transforming toy. I actually meant that the other way round. To me, the MP figure looks *exactly* like the animation model, which is crap, which is why the toy looks like it will be crap. I can see that now rewatching the cartoon for the other thread, Ironhide is badly proportioned and largely improvised because when the animators created his figure they couldn't use the toy as a reference. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 15, 2015 15:46:22 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 15, 2015 19:20:44 GMT
I love Google translate. "valuable and precious Speaking be", "seal of the face put on the seat" and "cloudy clear parts" sound like characters out of the last Grey Area story in 2000AD.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 25, 2015 7:40:49 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 25, 2015 11:13:38 GMT
He's sneaking up on Shockwave!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2015 18:49:41 GMT
But Shockwave's power is second only to Megatron's! He doesn't stand a chance!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 25, 2015 19:40:43 GMT
But Ironhide can fire special spooge!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2015 20:16:23 GMT
He better take his nappy off then.
(HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S WEARING A NAPPY! OH GOD NO!)
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 25, 2015 20:54:42 GMT
I have never seen a nappy that looks like that.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 1, 2015 20:13:55 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 1, 2015 22:31:38 GMT
aaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggnnnnnnhhhhhhh
yyyyyyeeeeeaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhhhhhh
bbbbbbllllllllllaaassssrrrrrrrgggghsdhfrxhrfjgfgsgyfhyfghxxc
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Post by Benn on Dec 1, 2015 22:34:06 GMT
I like it.
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 1, 2015 22:48:05 GMT
Bbbzzzzzzzztttssssssdfffzzzzzzzzzx
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 2, 2015 1:48:08 GMT
He's good, but he's no Ratchet.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 2, 2015 11:50:27 GMT
At least he has an alternate Happy Time face.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 15, 2016 11:30:12 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 15, 2016 11:52:44 GMT
The number of pounds to get him is many.
And I really don't like the look of his fanny.
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 15, 2016 19:50:02 GMT
*test* shot? this is supposed to be shipping in a fortnight!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 16, 2016 14:40:24 GMT
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Post by Benn on Jan 16, 2016 15:16:58 GMT
I like it.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 16, 2016 17:15:34 GMT
Urzu liking this so much is crazy!
I can only conclude his eyesight's hazy!
I'm sure the toy wont be a complete rejection.
But Ironhide and Ratchet demand perfection!
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Dezzeh
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Wait, what?
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Post by Dezzeh on Jan 17, 2016 16:12:52 GMT
Paying for the preorder marks my first purchase of the year!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 17, 2016 19:41:42 GMT
I don't mind the look of it,
Could it be a surprise hit?
-Ralph
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dyrl
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Transforming robots are no match for combat waitresses from the future!
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Post by dyrl on Jan 17, 2016 22:34:19 GMT
It could be . I like it, and would love to get it , but there's lots of stuff I'd love to get which I won't get now and will only get later if supplies and opportunity presents itself . To me, this is fine, just not even close to the top of the list . I have CW Ironhide and he's fine . I have no Hotrods and am happily waiting on MP. This is good. Might be more tempted by Ratchet , but my Prime Ratchet - like my Prime Soundwave - is really nice.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 24, 2016 10:07:44 GMT
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Post by Benn on Jan 24, 2016 10:23:10 GMT
It's kinda wierd. The only thing that stops him being 'cartoon accurate' (I guess) is the hip kibble, but no-one complained when the new Strike Plane mold had that.
I still like it.
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