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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2015 7:56:35 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 25, 2015 17:13:01 GMT
What's going on in Ironhide's picture no.1?
I.... I dunno.... I think I'm liking him more. I just hate his waste and crotch and hip pannels.
He certainly comes with lotsa stuff!
30 years I've waited for this toy (kind of).
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Post by Benn on Aug 25, 2015 17:21:55 GMT
I look at it this way: If you don't like it, you can always just go back to the Universe version.
I like this Iron Hide.
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 25, 2015 17:25:32 GMT
I look at it this way: If you don't like it, you can always just go back to the Universe version. You don't mean the frakkin' God-awful Classics/Generations Ironhide mold do you?!?!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NNNEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLLLLLAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *smashes Generations Ironhide* NOT WORTHY!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Llama God on Aug 25, 2015 18:20:25 GMT
Aye. There was no call for that kind of language, Urzu! ;-)
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 25, 2015 18:33:14 GMT
HA HAA!!!
sigh
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2015 9:04:03 GMT
I think the Diaclone mould remains the best Ironhide toy thus far.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 30, 2015 9:13:28 GMT
I'd be inclined to agree, but it's hard to reconcile his diminutive size and spindly frame with his hoary old warhorse personality. If you look at him that way he starts to come across as Gimli. Actually, I suppose that works. Mind you when I was a kid he was only ever in robot mode attached to his base, same with Ratchet. Boosted him up a bit.
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 30, 2015 18:29:35 GMT
It is an odd state of affairs. I love the G1 Ironhide/Ratchet mold, BUT, I crave a cartoon/later comic accurate toy. I had great hopes that a future Masterpiece would combine the two elements.
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Post by Llama God on Aug 30, 2015 19:24:29 GMT
As did I. But alas, since he never looked like that in the cartoon, we were never going to get it...
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Post by Benn on Aug 30, 2015 20:52:03 GMT
Ratchet might though. He used his medibay a couple of times in the cartoon. There is yet hope, albeit slim
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 30, 2015 21:16:47 GMT
Ah! You mean Ironhide looks so rubbish because he's badly remoulded from the brilliant Ratchet one we've yet to see! I like it!
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Post by Dezzeh on Aug 31, 2015 7:46:02 GMT
Still don't get the hate, I think this looks pretty good!
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Post by Benn on Aug 31, 2015 9:24:32 GMT
I don't hate it, and until I saw the hollow arms in the other thread was pretty happy with him.
But Ratchet needs his medibay, and I'd like it (in an ideal world) to look better than the one Ironhide has got.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 31, 2015 13:24:35 GMT
I agree that the 84 Ironhide toy doesn't quite match the personality that character was given in media. I still really like it as a toy though.
I did have a soft spot for Universe Ironhide even though objectively it was pretty terrible!
The Energon Thingy Chap who was repainted as Ratchet for Botcon was pretty good. Even had a M.A.R.B.!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Aug 31, 2015 13:38:05 GMT
I agree that the 84 Ironhide toy doesn't quite match the personality that character was given in media. I still really like it as a toy though. I did have a soft spot for Universe Ironhide even though objectively it was pretty terrible! The Energon Thingy Chap who was repainted as Ratchet for Botcon was pretty good. Even had a M.A.R.B.! -Ralph The original Ironhide is an amazing toy in its original design as a vehicle for a man to ride about in. I think it lost a lot of value when they decided not to include the Diaclone men. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 1, 2015 22:45:20 GMT
Energon Towline.
Yes it was a good Ironhide/Ratchet repaint.
Andy
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 2, 2015 6:55:19 GMT
Oh Lord Energon Towline is brillant and it's a CRIIIIIMMME the mold wasn't mass released as Ironhide and Ratchet. Makes me angry.
The Classics/Generations mold is a horror. It makes me really angry.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 2, 2015 9:38:39 GMT
You should watch some Headmasters to quell your anger.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 5, 2015 21:36:25 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Sept 6, 2015 17:43:05 GMT
10,000 Yen, that's £55 at the moment. Not too bad. Except he's not yet Ratchet. But I shall bide my time...
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 11, 2015 21:17:20 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 11, 2015 21:30:09 GMT
Not really helping...
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 11, 2015 21:53:59 GMT
It's the head, hips and crotch/pelvis. Not right. Head to thin. Crap hip plates. Biiiig pelvis. He's got a fat ass. Too lanky looking, to tall, and no M.A.R.B. Nice weapons though. And alt mode looks ok. *sigh*
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2015 23:43:26 GMT
It's looking much better there. The vehicle mode is spot on.
-Ralph
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Post by Stomski on Sept 12, 2015 9:38:24 GMT
What's worse? Oversized bum flap or... BUTT TYRES??
Looks good to me except for the legs which are plain blocks.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 12, 2015 10:15:37 GMT
The legs I think are an oddity that has escaped too much criticism because of the other more visible faults, but the feet do look like an oddly folded up collection of offcuts that don't fit anywhere else. I'm not having this business that he's bound to be an odd looking robot because his alt mode is a van, so it's hard to get a good looking robot out of what is just a box. Piffle.
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Post by Stomski on Sept 12, 2015 12:28:24 GMT
If Gobots taught us nothing else it's that you can get decent robots out of anything, even rocks.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 12, 2015 12:42:10 GMT
The legs I think are an oddity that has escaped too much criticism because of the other more visible faults, but the feet do look like an oddly folded up collection of offcuts that don't fit anywhere else. I'm not having this business that he's bound to be an odd looking robot because his alt mode is a van, so it's hard to get a good looking robot out of what is just a box. Piffle. The amount of people on that tfw thread defending it on the basis that 'its a hard altmode to get a good robot mode from' beggars believe. It's a box! It's the easiest altmode to get a robot mode from! He looks okay, but he has a giant crotch and the face looks off. Though the fact I can moan about something like that on a Masterpiece Ironhide of all things indicates that maybe we're all a bit spoiled! |
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 12, 2015 13:35:29 GMT
Yeah that logic is ridiculous. The reason it looks funny is that its based on an animation model that had little if any relation to a physical three dimensional toy. When the models are closer to the base toy you get details like wheels on the shoulders or legs and other recognisable vehicle parts dotted around the robot mode. Ironhide and ratchet only have van fronts stuck on to a generic robot.
The end result of trying to make that in to a toy is a design that seems to have gone to extreme lengths to makes lower legs into generic blocks rather than looking like parts of a vehicle as every other MP to date does. Its why more energy has been spent hiding one pair of wheels inside the legs rather than being left as part of the robot design while the other pair has just been dumped on his backside which has no basis on either the original toy or the animation model.
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