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Post by blueshift on Sept 10, 2016 15:58:21 GMT
Can't say I'm a fan of the side picture either. I'm actually one of those people who LIKE spine art (as long as it lines up!) That image is the sort of thing you'd expect to see on a Sunbow DVD collection. Characters like Ironhide, Kickback, Wheeljack and Prowl weren't really big players in the comic at all. And Soundwave is the wrong colour!!!
I wish they'd have commissioned something that featured appropriate characters, by someone like Geoff Senior. That would have been cool!
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 10, 2016 16:03:14 GMT
Stormbringer is definitely 35, but War Within could be 20 if they're doing their zeroes with a slash through them. Otherwise the pixel pattern matches the 8 in 18 exactly. 20 doesn't make a lot of sense though?
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 10, 2016 16:11:42 GMT
G2 in hc!
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 10, 2016 16:13:36 GMT
Looks like a print order run, so #21-23 is after Target 2006 because that's how they originally ran in the UK comic. This will be like the Dredd collection, the volume numbers won't match the issue numbers, by which I mean the first issue on sale, issue one, won't be volume one. Today I got Dredd issues 44 and 45, which are volume 47 and 80. It just means variety in what's published, but with something like this makes it impossible to read in order. This is nice in that the details for the first few volumes show this is Marvel, Dreamwave and IDW united. I wonder how recent they get to. I bet the cut off is The Death of Optimus Prime. 60 volumes. They'll be beautifully presented and gorgeous to collect going by the Dredd books. I don't have trades of the US Marvel stuff, just the original issues. Some nice reprints would be... oh no, more money. More parcels. The missus would kill me. My head hurts, but I finally got what you mean. I guess its a good way to mix things up. And means they wont hit a period where they have tons of UK strips to colour in one big block. Assuming they havent done all of them in advance, which would be a bit of a risk if the series didnt run long enough to reach those issues. Downside, big downside is it means I cant read in orginal UK print order as they are released which would be a big draw. Also means I cant just subscribe for the Marvel part of the run and if I just pick and choose volumes I want they will look awful on a book shelf. Thats also a downside if the series doesn't run its course. If it ran in order and only reached volume 20 or 30 that would probably be most of the Marvel run instead of a bunch random comics from different publishers and incomplete spine picture ruining the bookshelf display. |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 10, 2016 16:22:21 GMT
Also means I cant just subscribe for the Marvel part of the run and if I just pick and choose volumes I want they will look awful on a book shelf. I felt that was a problem with the Doctor Who books too. If they'd offered a sub that covered just the classic series I'd probably have gone for it, but I didn't need all the new series stuff reprinted so soon after it had recently been presented in special edition volumes by the magazine anyway. |
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Post by inflatabledalek on Sept 10, 2016 16:34:57 GMT
Well that's why they don't do it like that, they as many people to buy the whole series as they can. And to be fair, it keeps things varied. And when the run is complete they're on the shelf in the right order. If there was a risk not enough folk would buy the unpopular stuff they probably wouldn't bother with those parts, we'd have a Who partwork with no Colin Baker in it.
Folks who just want specific parts (which might be what I go for, haven't decided yet) will just have to buy them as they come out.
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 10, 2016 16:44:12 GMT
Doh! The correct publishing order not the release order means if I do only get the Marvel content it will form a complete spine image up the the point Marvel ends. My brain really is struggling with this.
So I can just buy individual issues. Hmm I dont care about the free gifts so as long as I can find it pick and choose is an option. £200 is a lot of money for comics I already have, but far better than £600 or more.
There appears to be about 70ish volumes on the website. If they plan on 60 I wonder what the other 10 would be if they opted to continue the set.
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 10, 2016 16:44:48 GMT
If all the UK material had been produced in standard US format ofthe time how many issues would it have added to the 80 US comics?
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 10, 2016 16:52:23 GMT
Well that's why they don't do it like that, they as many people to buy the whole series as they can. And to be fair, it keeps things varied. And when the run is complete they're on the shelf in the right order. If there was a risk not enough folk would buy the unpopular stuff they probably wouldn't bother with those parts, we'd have a Who partwork with no Colin Baker in it. How very dare you! There, there Colin, it's alright. Some of us love you. Well, Season 23/Big Finish you. I just thought with something that was so binary like new/old Who they could have factored that into the business model to start with and may have made *more* sales over all from people who just wanted the old classic series Archive articles collected properly. Initial subscription numbers would have given them an indication for print runs. |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 10, 2016 16:59:50 GMT
So I can just buy individual issues. Hmm I dont care about the free gifts so as long as I can find it pick and choose is an option. £200 is a lot of money for comics I already have, but far better than £600 or more. Thinking about it, that's a good idea. That way you could get the 332 in a nice collection and keep the cost down. The Hachette partworks website sells their volumes individually, and having just looked they still have all the currently released parts for the Dredd and Doctor collections on sale with free postage if you buy three at a time. www.hachettepartworks.com/judge-dredd-the-mega-collection |
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Post by inflatabledalek on Sept 10, 2016 17:00:03 GMT
Oh I love Colin as well, but it's inevitable those will be amongst the worse selling issues outside of subscribers, Paul is the only one likely to do worse.
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Post by inflatabledalek on Sept 10, 2016 17:02:22 GMT
And yeah, the only real downside from picking up the individual issues you want as they come out is any potential price rises as you go along. Otherwise it doesn't make that much difference as long as you have patience, especially as places like Forbidden Planet will often reduce old issues to clear.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 10, 2016 17:11:01 GMT
Partworks are very hard to come by after the first few issues in the Burger, I find. Even FPE misses out most of them (no Dredd for instance). I saw an issue of the Star Trek trial run in Stratford. I might have given it a go but as it was at a higher price of £13 and I was only interested in the backup material of some Gold Key strips rather than the main feature of IDW Kelvin Timeline material I passed. I had assumed the trial had failed as surely the 50th anniversary would have been an obvious nationwide launch? Not that CBS or Paramount have made much of the anniversary though.  Back to Transformers! -Ralph |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 10, 2016 17:16:17 GMT
Mr Dalek does raise an interesting question as to whether this is pre or post trial run. It has to be pre, or we'd already know about it, but are they confident enough from the other series they have going to do this without a trial? Did the new 40K series get a trial run?
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 10, 2016 17:21:44 GMT
Can't say I'm a fan of the side picture either. I'm actually one of those people who LIKE spine art (as long as it lines up!) That image is the sort of thing you'd expect to see on a Sunbow DVD collection. Characters like Ironhide, Kickback, Wheeljack and Prowl weren't really big players in the comic at all. And Soundwave is the wrong colour!!! The images are from a style guide provided for licencees a few years ago. That Prime image has turned up a lot including the last Metrodome release of Sunbow! This may be all they have access to on their budget. Maybe they can pay for new colouring but not new art? -Ralph |
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Post by inflatabledalek on Sept 10, 2016 17:25:23 GMT
It'd be hard to see them trying a Transformers one if Trek hadn't taken. Based on the gap between the trial and the launch of the Who one though, yeah, it should be around now it would kick off (though the website is still up and letting you take orders, so maybe soon?).
I'm not aware of any Partwork not having a trial run, and with a more outside choice like Transformers (as there doesn't seem to be any film stuff in there it won't be getting a push from Bay next year) I'd think it'd be essential.
Though as we don't know for sure yet, I could still be entirely wrong.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 10, 2016 17:28:02 GMT
Well if anything, it's all jolly interesting and made a dull afternoon writing up The Key to Vector Sigma for Sunbow Sundays more exciting.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 10, 2016 19:08:44 GMT
No surprise but I have already subscribed.
I think this is the trial run we are at now given hachette have just launched the 40k partwork it is unlikely they have done two big launches at the same time.
As soon as we see tv ads you will know it is the proper launch.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 10, 2016 19:11:56 GMT
If a TV ad is made which highlights Marvel UK it will be a call back to the telly ad back in the day!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 10, 2016 20:08:18 GMT
What I love about the partworks is that it is training a generation of comic readers to accept nice looking packages on a regular schedule with a complete story.
Hopefully have a positive influence long term.
Andy
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Post by browny87 on Sept 10, 2016 21:56:21 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 10, 2016 22:02:24 GMT
7 hours too late chap!
Shoved your post into the existing thread,
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Post by blueshift on Sept 10, 2016 22:08:24 GMT
7 hours too late chap! Shoved your post into the existing thread, I feel that Browny is losing the round 3 spy war with Ralph |
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Post by inflatabledalek on Sept 10, 2016 22:17:28 GMT
Even if they only do these 5 test issues and decide not to carry on... Target: 2006 being on a newsagents shelf again is a glorious thing.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 10, 2016 22:19:53 GMT
The bio section for "Jazz" is not giving me any confidence in the quality of their research!!!
Edit: And "Andrew Wlidman", whoever he is!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 10, 2016 22:23:00 GMT
The folks that do the website will not be the people who do the book contents.
Andy
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Post by Rich on Sept 10, 2016 22:34:04 GMT
Can't decide whether I'll get this. It's a nice idea but I have most everything they can print in trade form so buying again is a bit daft. But..
As a side note, looking at the website, I'm now tempted by their Marvel stuff, though a series just doing x-men is what I'd really want.
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Post by Benn on Sept 10, 2016 22:43:47 GMT
It will be mine, for as long as it runs.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 10, 2016 22:47:59 GMT
Furman has confirmed he was editorial consultant and writer for the series.
Andy
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Post by browny87 on Sept 10, 2016 22:49:15 GMT
ill probably buy it just for the collection,
side note I didn't notice the threadso my bad!
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