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Post by The Doctor on Sept 10, 2016 22:53:13 GMT
Even if they only do these 5 test issues and decide not to carry on... Target: 2006 being on a newsagents shelf again is a glorious thing. Indeed. Remember: partworks reach a different audience than the crowd who regularly go to comic shops or use Comixology. There will be folk who see this kind of thing and will give it a go who don't go to comic shops or are put off the ridiculous price trades go for. Even if this only goes a few issues in a test region, it gets Transformers comics out to a wider audience again. -Ralph |
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Post by browny87 on Sept 10, 2016 22:58:44 GMT
any ideas when the first issue is due?
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Post by inflatabledalek on Sept 11, 2016 0:53:00 GMT
Trials are usually a bit vague about starting points so the website won't put people off. If it goes nationwide there will be more of a push (does this have the legs for TV commercials?). Even if they only do these 5 test issues and decide not to carry on... Target: 2006 being on a newsagents shelf again is a glorious thing. Indeed. Remember: partworks reach a different audience than the crowd who regularly go to comic shops or use Comixology. There will be folk who see this kind of thing and will give it a go who don't go to comic shops or are put off the ridiculous price trades go for. Even if this only goes a few issues in a test region, it gets Transformers comics out to a wider audience again. -Ralph Yeah, there is a market for TF Comics in the UK outside the traditional fanbase. The interview I did with James Roberts about the Classics TFUK books mentioned they were being brought by people who otherwise didn't give a toss about fandom but did love old British comics or liked the TFUK comic as a child and wanted to revisit it. The question is, is that crowd large enough to keep a partwork going? And that's what the trial is for. And these initial 5 issues are very skewered towards making British people in their 30's interested. It starts with the big "I remember THAT!" story, has two other Marvel collections, two others are on Cybertron with lots of shooting and all are predominantly written by the author brits who remember the old comic will regard as The Transformers author. |
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Post by blueshift on Sept 11, 2016 5:40:12 GMT
If this is the trial I wonder if the actual launch will be next year. It feels odd not to do it whilst there's movie hype!
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Post by blueshift on Sept 11, 2016 5:41:28 GMT
Furman has confirmed he was editorial consultant and writer for the series. Andy ..And that's a massive selling point! Suddenly I am interested! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 11, 2016 5:53:14 GMT
Can't say I'm a fan of the side picture either. I'm actually one of those people who LIKE spine art (as long as it lines up!) That image is the sort of thing you'd expect to see on a Sunbow DVD collection. Characters like Ironhide, Kickback, Wheeljack and Prowl weren't really big players in the comic at all. And Soundwave is the wrong colour!!! The images are from a style guide provided for licencees a few years ago. That Prime image has turned up a lot including the last Metrodome release of Sunbow! This may be all they have access to on their budget. Maybe they can pay for new colouring but not new art? -Ralph Again, if this is a trial run, there's a good chance this may change for the full run. It did on the Dredd partwork, who had used an existing image. |
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Post by primenova on Sept 11, 2016 6:27:51 GMT
I think this is a good series to buy when you look at other prices rrp not sale price. So the 2 Titan tpb's that print the stuff from the #1 would cost you £30 when you are getting it for the reduced price. But you can pick up the Titan tpb in sales for £3 (but you can get IDW comics for 50p each) But you don't get these extra behind the scenes pages.
When did / does #1 come out?
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 11, 2016 7:03:41 GMT
How much is the actual subscription? Need to check my account but may do this later on...
Or is it not based on a six month-yearly payment system?
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Post by blueshift on Sept 11, 2016 7:08:09 GMT
How much is the actual subscription? Need to check my account but may do this later on... 9.99, 2x a month |
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 11, 2016 8:27:15 GMT
So I'd need to resubscribe each month?
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 11, 2016 8:37:02 GMT
More than likely just have to give 30 days notice when you decide to stop otherwise it will keep running.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 9:01:21 GMT
Hachette use a sales model where you can cancel a sub at any time: you don't have to sign up for a set period of time and be stuck with it. When I cancelled a Marvel sub the phone call took less than a minute and I was not charged past that date.
-Ralph
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Post by browny87 on Sept 11, 2016 9:20:33 GMT
ok so i signed up for this and it said my first billing date was 20/11 so im guessing itll start around November time??
Its usual scenario, issue 3 is free for subscribers then its £9.99 twice a month.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 9:58:54 GMT
Where does it give the billing date? I checked my email and can't see where it says that.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 10:01:06 GMT
Some info from Furman's FB page:
'Simon Furman
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For a change, something that's not To The Death, instead Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection: a series of hardback graphic novels that chart the entire history of Generation One, from the Marvel UK/US series through Dreamwave to IDW. Many firsts - from newly colourised UK (b&w) comics strip material to sequential UK publication order of the Marvel UK/US material, to previously uncollected Dreamwave material to all-new bonus materials and creator interviews. I've been editorial consultant/writer on the series and (in my opinion) this really is the ultimate TF GN collection. This new Partwork collection from Hachette is available for subscription now'
'NAME REMOVED The Marvel US strips are they the edited Marvel UK ones or the original US ones?
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Simon Furman Where it makes more sense to use something the UK comic 'adapted' in terms of the story flow I think it's more than likely that's what we'll do.'
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 10:01:39 GMT
Which means...it's the proper 332 in book form! For the first time since back in the day!
*explodes*
-Ralph
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Post by browny87 on Sept 11, 2016 10:25:24 GMT
the email doesnt say but i setup a direct debit payment and they told me then when the first date was
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Post by inflatabledalek on Sept 11, 2016 16:52:53 GMT
I guess whether they use the original UK versions of the US issues will depend on what sort of budget the trial gives them and if it lets them do more than just use the more recent IDW reprints (which I hope not! That recolouring was horrible. Though I suppose they're more likely to alter the key dialogue on those digitally than go to the effort of scanning the UK comic... though if they need it I know a guy with great scans!).
The Target 2006 book will actually be a good sign of how they're doing it as AoA has a big edit over Prime's injury ("SEE ISSUE 100!).
Good news about Dreamwave as well, I wonder if there are just more issues that could have been reprinted or if it's been long enough for them to feel they can chance it?
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 11, 2016 18:18:39 GMT
I think the only stuff from Dreamwave that hasn't been reprinted is the stuff we were always told couldn't be reprinted. Be nice if there's a loophole found, you could get three trades out of their Generation One title easily, especially given the issue Zero and Summer Special stuff.
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Post by inflatabledalek on Sept 11, 2016 18:27:43 GMT
I wonder if anyone would bother to sue now? I suppose the way round the potential legal issues is if the key people involved will be paid for contributing to the "Making of" stuff, effectively a token "It's not a lot but it's the only way you're ever going to see any money from this, so why not avoid any fuss?" gesture.
Ample room for "What would have happened next" stuff as well (including alterate takes, what "Brad Mick" planned is different from what would have actually happened, and I think we've only ever heard them talk about their intent, not the new author).
Guessing the lone Joe issue will go with the main DW Joe trade, the Age of Wrath stuff with The Dark Ages... I think that's it for actually published G1 stuff outside of the ongoing isn't it?
Thinking of the high issue number for Stormbringer compared to War Within... I wonder if they're going to go with the Suggested Reading Order than IDW seem very keen on in their own reprints that starts with Megatron Origin rather than Infiltration?
A shame they're not doing bonus books for premium subscribers as some partworks do, the Trek one promised the crossover books (though for TF's that would basically be The Avengers book! Yikes!) but there could have been a chunky Titan film book or DW Armada as a bonus.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 19:53:49 GMT
I wonder which version of the TF:TM adaptation they will use? Marvel or IDW?
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 19:54:52 GMT
I think the only stuff from Dreamwave that hasn't been reprinted is the stuff we were always told couldn't be reprinted. Be nice if there's a loophole found, you could get three trades out of their Generation One title easily, especially given the issue Zero and Summer Special stuff. Imagine a world in which an HC of Micromasters exists. -Ralph |
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Post by Jaymz on Sept 11, 2016 20:01:26 GMT
I think the only stuff from Dreamwave that hasn't been reprinted is the stuff we were always told couldn't be reprinted. Be nice if there's a loophole found, you could get three trades out of their Generation One title easily, especially given the issue Zero and Summer Special stuff. There's plenty of released as singles DW that never made it to collections, I expect that'll be the "never before reprinted" stuff, particularly G1 Vol 3. I'd be interested in seeing whether the Marvel reprints are from the Titan reprints, seeing as Furman was involved with both. And the Titan versions are the nicest presentation of the US Marvel material, didn't like the digital "improvements" on the IDW reprints. |
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Post by primenova on Sept 11, 2016 20:30:54 GMT
They should printed the new altered UK pages from #108. I've just subscribed from #1. So £588.40
So v17 is us#62-67. We are all going to love it when Micromasters #1-4 gets printed.
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 11, 2016 20:43:23 GMT
Just subscribed. Birthday money had been burning a hole in my pocket for all of 5 minutes.
As it means the first 4 volumes are only £20 it seems daft not to. But I wont be keeping the sub for the whole run unless the new bonus content is really interesting. Theres just too much I aren't that bothered about owning or owning again.
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Post by legios on Sept 11, 2016 20:56:20 GMT
I wonder if anyone would bother to sue now? I suppose the way round the potential legal issues is if the key people involved will be paid for contributing to the "Making of" stuff, effectively a token "It's not a lot but it's the only way you're ever going to see any money from this, so why not avoid any fuss?" gesture. I don't think it is that simple. From my understanding the issue is that the creators were working under a work-for-hire contract(*), and the work was never paid for - if so the contract is void and Dreamwave never actually owned the work (so not only is money outstanding to the creators but the original printings of the works are copyright violations, because the copyrights never transferred. The characters, situations etc are owned by Tomy, but the specific stories and images remain the property of their creators under work-for-hire until they are paid for them. Hence the shenanigans with Marvel's cheques having Work-for-hire contracts on the back of them in the "bad old days".). So in some regards the "take this pittance for your work and like" might not be the most diplomatic way to go about it. (I'm working from memory on the "work-for-hire" status, so this could be erroneous.) Karl |
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 11, 2016 21:24:43 GMT
But at this point those artists might be quite happy to sell their work to Hachette for something rather than sit on it for nothing. Their issues would be with what was Dreamwave and they would get nothing from this publication, so maybe...
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 12, 2016 7:09:12 GMT
We're taking over 10 years later. People move on.
-Ralph
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Post by primenova on Sept 12, 2016 9:00:47 GMT
Did they get to keep the art or did DW take it off them, but they kept copies? I just wnat to see them paid at least. Hasbro have made the money they lost from the Movies so they don't need it.
But back on topic - #1 how many pages are the extra features total to? So I can see what should be in each issue (mainly the annual must be printed too)
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Post by primenova on Sept 12, 2016 11:34:20 GMT
We can see that 75 issue are on display on the website. If we take it #1 was out 10/9/16 then #9 is 31/12/16. If tesco gets this in like Marvel art then I'll get it there from #7 then gets points but would be better if Morrisons stocked it (but not in today) or even Travelling man & get £10 of points.
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