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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 22, 2015 22:00:42 GMT
Click on the Boss link.
Look at the head.
Now imagine the pale blue body in red but still with the dark blue head.
It's Optimus
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Post by Benn on Dec 22, 2015 22:22:23 GMT
Is the same not true of Starscream and Skywarp? And Flywheels and Battletrap? And Dogfight and Windsweeper? The switches happened quite commonly and should be confined to the vaults of curio and never fretted upon again. Totally MEGA-right about Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp. They're Techspecs are all swapped around to buggery, but at least they're bios are ok. I can buy Flywheels and Battletrap, but that doesn't stand out to me all that much. I had Battletrap as a child and felt the name suited him. But the name 'Flywheels' doesn't suite the Flywheels mold though, that's for sure. Windsweeper and Dogfight though...? I think with Windweeper and Dogfight it's due to the way the weapons work. Dogfight has Crankcase and Ruckus's winding gears mechanism, and Windsweeper has the spring loaded Triggerbot gimmick. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 22, 2015 22:26:11 GMT
There's some speculation with the colours too that Dogfight seems to fit the Decepticons mix of blues and purples better www.tfu.info/subgroup/trigger.htmI'd never looked too closely before so hadn't spotted the resemblance between Windsweeper's head and Leozak's |
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 22, 2015 22:38:11 GMT
Yeah, I've no idea what any of that means... Tis the mystery of G2. The place only the hardiest tread. MY EYES! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 22, 2015 22:54:26 GMT
AHEM
Euro 92/3 IS NOT G2!
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Post by Kingoji on Dec 22, 2015 22:55:33 GMT
Windsweeper and Dogfight: Because they are the sole members of their groups who use the different method of activating their gimmick, and because Windsweeper's robot mode actually kinda looks heroic and Dogfight's looks pretty mean.
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Post by Llama God on Dec 22, 2015 23:20:21 GMT
No, 'tis the twisted loins from which G2 sprang! Fully formed! Like in those stories. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 23, 2015 0:05:27 GMT
Windsweeper and Dogfight: Because they are the sole members of their groups who use the different method of activating their gimmick, and because Windsweeper's robot mode actually kinda looks heroic and Dogfight's looks pretty mean. Interesting... interesting... this, needs to be investigated.... |
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Post by legios on Dec 23, 2015 7:45:20 GMT
I think with Windweeper and Dogfight it's due to the way the weapons work. Dogfight has Crankcase and Ruckus's winding gears mechanism, and Windsweeper has the spring loaded Triggerbot gimmick. Ah! That makes sense. (Full disclosure: Dogfight is the only one of those folks I've actually owned, so my experience of them is limited) Karl |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 23, 2015 8:40:55 GMT
I really thought the triggercons operated the same way? you say they're different?
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Post by Toph on Dec 23, 2015 9:37:34 GMT
I really thought the triggercons operated the same way? you say they're different? Same! I only have Backstreet, and I thought they were all trigger activated springs. |
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Post by kayevcee on Dec 23, 2015 16:54:31 GMT
Nope!
Backstreet, Override and Windsweeper all have chrome guns that are spring loaded and flick out when you press in the tab.
Crankcase, Ruckus and Dogfight all have guns that match their colour schemes that unveil slowly on friction mechanisms when you slide the tab to release them.
I started thinking about this a couple of weeks ago. In the same way the Autobot targetmasters all had metal pins holding their joints together while the 'cons just had a plastic peg & clip design (some more fragile than others, Aimless), it felt like the Triggerbots should have all had the chrome, spring-loaded guns while the 'cons had the matte friction-driven guns. I guess somebody at Hasbro decided to mix them up after the designs were finalised.
-Nick
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 23, 2015 22:32:01 GMT
Backstreet's back, alright.
*dances*
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 25, 2016 9:29:18 GMT
Is the same not true of Starscream and Skywarp? And Flywheels and Battletrap? And Dogfight and Windsweeper? The switches happened quite commonly and should be confined to the vaults of curio and never fretted upon again. Here's another Universe Ratchet www.tfu.info/2003/Autobot/AutobotRatchet/ratchet.htmUniverse Inferno www.tfu.info/2003/Autobot/TFUInferno/inferno.htmtfwiki.net/wiki/Red_Alert_%28G1%29#NotesThe color schemes for the Universe (2003) versions of Inferno and Robots in Disguise Spy Changer Prowl are clearly based on Red Alert's Generation 1 look. Inferno in particular caused a great deal of fan confusion when first released; here was a toy named Inferno, decorated like Red Alert, released alongside a toy named Ratchet, decorated like Inferno. Hasbro design director Aaron Archer (in his online "Orson" persona) disclosed that this was the result of a mistake in the naming process. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 13, 2016 13:19:53 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 13, 2016 17:07:24 GMT
Bad Phil!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 13, 2016 18:41:45 GMT
AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT'S TRUE!!!!!
SIDESWIPE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUNSTREAKER AND SUNSTREAKER SHOULD HAVE BEEN SIDESWIPE!!!!!
YELLOW SHOULD BE RED!!!
RED SHOULD BE YELLOW!!!
NNNNNEEEEEEEAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!
*Jumps out window*
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Post by Toph on Jun 13, 2016 19:10:12 GMT
and for an encore, Phil then went on to prove that left is right, and black is white, and promptly got himself killed at the next zebra crossing.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 14, 2016 17:36:37 GMT
It is not true, Shockprowl! As I will tell Phil personally two weeks from now!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 14, 2016 17:42:50 GMT
Grand Galvatron decrees it to be true. He will not play with anyone who thinks otherwise and forbids G2 Menasor from doing so too.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 14, 2016 17:45:05 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 14, 2016 19:04:23 GMT
Grand Galvatron decrees it to be true. He will not play with anyone who thinks otherwise and forbids G2 Menasor from doing so too. Then Grand Galvatron...is a fool! -Ralph |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 14, 2016 19:08:37 GMT
It is not true, Shockprowl! As I will tell Phil personally two weeks from now! -Ralph But it is true! The G1 toy that was Sunstreaker should have been coloured and red and been Sideswipe! The G1 toy that was Sideswipe should have been coloured yellow and have been Sunstreaker! It's in the Techspecs!!! It fits their personalities!!! |
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 14, 2016 20:07:53 GMT
That's fascinating. I've never seen that. So Cliffjumper was Blow-Out? Weird. All this historical stuff should be documented properly. See if anyone asked me I'd say Bob did the characters, but that article says otherwise. These people so need to be properly interviewed. Why hasn't that ever been done? |
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 14, 2016 20:40:43 GMT
It is not true, Shockprowl! As I will tell Phil personally two weeks from now! -Ralph But it is true! The G1 toy that was Sunstreaker should have been coloured and red and been Sideswipe! The G1 toy that was Sideswipe should have been coloured yellow and have been Sunstreaker! It's in the Techspecs!!! It fits their personalities!!! Nonsense! Utter nonsense! I cast you out from Planet Zero! -Ralph |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 14, 2016 21:00:03 GMT
AAAARRRRGGHHH!!!!!!
*floats off Planet Zero with head held high in RIGHTEOUSNESS*
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Post by Toph on Jun 14, 2016 22:47:50 GMT
That's fascinating. I've never seen that. So Cliffjumper was Blow-Out? Weird. All this historical stuff should be documented properly. See if anyone asked me I'd say Bob did the characters, but that article says otherwise. These people so need to be properly interviewed. Why hasn't that ever been done? Well, it has. Most, if not all this info is on TFWiki.net |
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 15, 2016 16:21:47 GMT
Yeah, wiki's are like bottomless pits though. There's no index so you often can't find what you're looking for easily and they're so big that it's very easy to miss information simply because it's on a page with a name you wouldn't think of using, or it's organised in a way that makes sense to the creator but not you. No, what I mean is there should be a proper history of how the line was created, like a super in-depth version of the commentary that's in the IDW Classics UK volumes.
I think the stumbling block for this might be the simple fact that no one involved seems to remember very much. When trying to do research for the Sunbow Sunday thread, the interviews with creators I've come across - or the ones on DVDs - usually amount to very little or the questions being asked aren't very good.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 9, 2017 16:32:43 GMT
As I've said many times previously I think the Scourge name was wrongly used back in 2001 and that he should have been Mega Octane, a name with more fuel related connotations and linking to his alt mode. Scourge is not Mega Octane, To think that is insane! Ralph desires a Black Convoy, Though the sword makes folk cry: "Oy!" -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 9, 2017 17:53:10 GMT
Yet again Ralph fails to see my point that the name mega octane is more apropriate for this toy, carrying high octane fuel hence the Triplechanger's name, than it is for the Combaticon Leader.
I wouldn't have used Scourge at all, too Galvatron henchman for me.
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