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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 31, 2019 21:12:55 GMT
Some PAD Hulk or possibly some Waid Captain America if you have any.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 1, 2019 19:27:50 GMT
Ralph has selected my illustrated reading material for the next few months:
Damage Control: The Complete Collection
Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E.
Power Pack Classic Vol. 1
Strikeforce Morituri Vol. 1
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 1, 2019 20:36:09 GMT
That's a good selection.
Andy
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 1, 2019 20:38:07 GMT
Those early Power Packs with the Snark war are fantastic. Best thing in Thundercats, that was.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 2, 2019 9:59:29 GMT
I agree.
One of the rare Marvel UK titles to have a stronger back up feature than the lead right out of the gate.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 2, 2019 10:12:32 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 2, 2019 10:19:13 GMT
Thundercats started out in issue one printing the US issue one of Power Pack. It ran Power Pack #1-5, but very quickly had letters from readers saying "we've read all this already" so they jumped from #5 to #16 in Thundercats issue 20 with a quick explanation to cover the gap. They then ran Power Pack #16-26 (but missed #18 out because it was a tie in to Secret Wars II that I don't think fit the ongoing story), which took Thundercats up to issue 78 where Galaxy Rangers started as the back up strip. After that, Power Pack didn't come back.
Edit: Having checked, that jump was a bit rubbish anyway. The last issue of Return of the Jedi (#155) had the end of Power Pack #23 in it. Power Pack started with #1 in RotJ #69 so it ran from Oct '84 to June '86 before Thundercats started with it in March '87.
That just about works out - 87 issue run, of those 23 PP issues at least two were double sized ones, so that works out about one PP issue every 3.5 RotJ issues, and they seem to have printed six pages per issue, so that seems about right for a full run 1-23 in RotJ.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 2, 2019 10:32:47 GMT
Messrs Phil and Pinwig.
AN IDEA HAS FORMED.
A PM IS ON IT'S WAY!
Andy
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Post by manmiles on Jun 2, 2019 15:10:38 GMT
Ralph has selected my illustrated reading material for the next few months: Damage Control: The Complete Collection Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. Power Pack Classic Vol. 1 Strikeforce Morituri Vol. 1 Martin Okay, I am REALLY interested to find out what you think about Nextwave, Martin. It's like Shakespeare, but with lots more punching. Strikeforce Morituri is an interesting concept, one that would like to see brought back and updated. Especially in today's climate. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 2, 2019 20:32:34 GMT
I've just read the first issue of Power Pack, Nextwave and Morituri. PP is all good - I've read odd issues here and there previously, and knew it would be my cup of tea. Nextwave isn't a heavy read, but I don't care much for the style of art. Morituri - first impression, overly serious, but we'll see.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 22, 2019 19:04:28 GMT
Finished Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. first, on account of the low words-to-page ratio, and in order to savour the books I like more. It's OK as a spoof, and made me laugh in places, but can't say I care for it as a story - the heroes are all hard-as-nails and cynical and apparently invincible, so there's not much suspense or scope to care about the characters. Not too keen on the artwork or casual death-dealing either. But it was an experience!
Reminds me of the Deadpool films.
Edit: And what have they done to the Machine Man character???
Martin
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Post by Jim on Jun 24, 2019 7:14:59 GMT
I loved Immonen's art on Nextwave but didn't care so much for the writing. Warren Ellis running a bit on autopilot with flashes of brilliance but also a bit too much too-cool-for-school cynicism. My fave Ellis Marvel superhero writings in the relatively recent past were Moon Knight (legitimately amazing IMO) and Secret Avengers.
Power Pack is indeed wonderful stuff.
I also loved Gillis's Morituri but can definitely see how it wouldn't be for everyone. I liked how willing it was to pull the rug out from under you and commit to its premise without finding cheap ways out of killing off its cast. And Brent Anderson's artwork is superb.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 24, 2019 8:36:18 GMT
We have the Ellis Moon Knight and Secret Avengers here.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 25, 2019 19:45:06 GMT
Morituri grows on me. Yes, the artwork is good.
Beyond Phil's loans, I've also recently read Avengers vs X-Men (and the AvX Versus spin-offs) and found them surprisingly enjoyable by 21st Century Marvel Comics standards. I can see how Cyclops fans would hate it, though.
Out of curiosity, how long did the Prof stay dead?
Just bought the Spider-Man: Far From Home Prelude TPB from James W (because I'm a completist and collecting these like theatre programmes). So I will see Mysterio as he originally appeared in the comics before I see the film. For info, the contents of the TPB are the MCU adaptation of Homecoming, Amazing Spider-Man (1963) #95 and #311 and Amazing Spider-Man (2015) #9-10.
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 25, 2019 20:45:20 GMT
He stayed dead for a couple of years.
Another big event where Cap is forced into a plot where he absolutely wouldn't be on the Avengers side hunting down Hope and yes it was another nail in the coffin for Cyclops character.
The Avengers were the bad guys in this, and the fact there was no fallout for Iron Man who was ultimately at fault for his device.
Still - not as bad as Secret Empire...
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 25, 2019 21:07:07 GMT
The Avengers were the bad guys in this I didn't see it as so black and white. The Phoenix was travelling through space killing planets and heading for Earth. Avengers' job is to protect the Earth, so wanted to stop it coming here. Several Avengers went into space and risked their lives trying to stop it. And it made sense to get Hope to the moon, away from Earth itself. All that was fair and reasonable, as was Tony's intention to try to destroy it - given past experience showed that it corrupted good people and made them kill lots. He failed, and it made things worse, so yeah, he made a mistake, but the intent was pure, to protect all the humans and mutants on Earth. Where the Avengers were in the wrong was provoking a fight with the X-Men rather that working things out with talking. And of course Wolverine was in the wrong when he was resorting to killing, but that was just him acting alone. The five god-X-Men were never in the right because they were dictators, seeing themselves accountable to no-one. Martin |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 25, 2019 21:11:57 GMT
It doesn't really work in the wider Marvel context though given what Tony Stark was up to. I don't want to spoil it in case you read it for yourself suffice it to say Tony can't take the moral high ground with Phoenix.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 25, 2019 21:12:22 GMT
Agree about the God X-Men, but again that only happens as a result of Tony...
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 25, 2019 21:17:39 GMT
It doesn't really work in the wider Marvel context though given what Tony Stark was up to. I don't want to spoil it in case you read it for yourself suffice it to say Tony can't take the moral high ground with Phoenix. OK, take your word for that, I read it without any wider context. Martin |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 26, 2019 17:24:20 GMT
I tend to think most of Marvel's big events have done poorly in terms of making characters fit certain positions based on plot, rather than whether the character would actually do that.
Civil War and Captain America's surrendering for example.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 30, 2019 20:45:47 GMT
Finished the first two 4-issue limited series of Damage Control. Most amusing - much more my kind of humour than Nextwave, that's for sure.
I imagine Damage Control would have got quite a lot of work as a result of the Transformers. Cleaning graffiti saying 'HUMANS ARE WIMPS' off the Statue of Liberty would be just the tip of the iceberg...
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 1, 2019 19:33:55 GMT
Finished Power Pack Vol. 1. All good.
Three issues left of Morituri, and several of Damage Control.
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 1, 2019 19:36:18 GMT
Nearly Curry time then
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 1, 2019 19:54:52 GMT
My next free Saturdays are the 20th and 27th.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 3, 2019 5:48:23 GMT
Finished the complete works of Damage Control, with World War Hulk Aftersmash: Damage Control #1-3.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 7, 2019 17:25:38 GMT
Annnnnd... Strikeforce Morituri finished.
Verdict, best to worst:
1. Power Pack
2. Damage Control
3. Strikeforce Morituri
4. Nextwave
Thank you, Phil and Ralph.
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 7, 2019 18:40:37 GMT
More Strikeforce and Power Pack to come.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 27, 2019 18:09:17 GMT
Martin was dispatched today with vol 2 & 3 of both Power Pack and Strikeforce Morituri today.
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Post by Jim on Jul 29, 2019 22:21:29 GMT
Still haven't brought myself to read any post-Gillis Morituri, though v3 has been on the shelf for quite some years now. The series under him had such a distinctive tone it feels like it should have been a creator-owned thing that ended when he left.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 9, 2019 17:44:50 GMT
Just picked up 'Thor: The Last Viking' (partwork hardback) from a second-hand bookshop. It contains Thor #337-343, the first seven Walt issues. Not sure whether the colouring is the same or different from the paperbacks Phil lent me,
In other news, I've reached the Beta Ray Bill issue of Power Pack. Yay!
Martin
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